A24 4,326 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Or Snyder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Nolan and Snyder owe more to Unbreakable than James Gunn who owes to Whedon and Flash Gordon. Unbreakable is probably the best DC movie to date even though it isn't a DC movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 38 minutes ago, Jay said: Seriously? Yes, although Unbreakable is certainly a respectable second for me. Signs always felt like his most complete and most satisfying in terms of pure filmmaking. Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Satisfying? I wanted to strangle it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, nightscape94 said: Yes, although Unbreakable is certainly a respectable second for me. Signs always felt like his most complete and most satisfying in terms of pure filmmaking. Even though it makes no sense that Aliens who are killed by water would invade a planet full of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, nightscape94 said: Yes, although Unbreakable is certainly a respectable second for me. Signs always felt like his most complete and most satisfying in terms of pure filmmaking. Indeed. I would place The Sixth Sense as my second favorite though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 I've always preferred the thematically similar The Others. KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Thematically similar but stylistically they couldn't be more different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Thats why I prefer it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Oh, me too, but then again, I can't stand the tone of Signs and The Sixth Sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, Jay said: Even though it makes no sense that Aliens who are killed by water would invade a planet full of it? That never bothered me because it never truly speaks from the alien point of view, unlike other movies in the genre, and no master plan is ever revealed, which is to the movie's benefit. It's about atmosphere and personal crisis. The invasion is just a basic setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Yea the directing and staging is fine but the plot and story make so little sense the entire movie falls completely apart. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Isn't that water thing a sort of homage to H.G. Wells anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 48 minutes ago, Jay said: I haven't seen Unbreakable in ~15 years and I hope it lives up to my fond memories of it! Yeah just looked it up. I was 23 years old 17 years ago. I can barely remember the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, Jay said: Yea the directing and staging is fine but the plot and story make so little sense the entire movie falls completely apart. IMO. Whether it made sense or not was the least of my problems. A good storyteller can make you believe anything, or, at least he can make you turn a blind eye to questionable events. It's only when people don't like a movie that they start to look for plot holes or 'flaws'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Indeed! If a story is well told it doesn't matter if it doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Like that scuba tank blowing up Jaws. I'll buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Like Indiana Jones surviving a nuclear blast inside a refrigerator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Ummmm....less so. Good for a laugh though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 The tone of the film goes a long way in dictating what it can get away with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Not so much the tone, just the proficiency of the storytelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 The fridge scene in Indy was total BS. But compared to many other more damning things about that movie, it was absolutely fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Its fantastically bullshit! Pulp rubbish Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 As apposed to insultingly rubbish, horrible green screen vine swinging, and mobile fencing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Yuck! Spielbergs worst hour of film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Stefancos said: I've always preferred the thematically similar The Others. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 For me it's tied with his War of the Worlds, but don't you actually quite like Indiana Jones 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 No. But I don't hate it to the extent that some do. It's too inconsequential for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 I hate it, mainly for spoiling the perfectly formed trilogy the series was for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 There are far worse things in Indy 4 than the Fridge scene. And I love the whole fake town sequence Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Yeah. It's one of the few funny moments in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Nuke Town is probably my favourite part of the entire movie. It's bizarre, uncanny, and it has a great look. It's visually unique in the Indiana Jones aesthetic. Not Mr. Big and Romão 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Agreed. The first act works quite well I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Quintus said: Nuke Town is probably my favourite part of the entire movie. It's bizarre, uncanny, and it has a great look. It's visually unique in the Indiana Jones aesthetic. It's the high point of the movie. It's the sequence where the Indy vibe and the 50's setting really meshed well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 A 70 year old Harrison Ford bumbling into a garishly photographed house yelling "Hello?! Can I use the phone?!" is the high point of the movie? Tombstone Well, I suppose I'm deranged, but I guess I'll just have to call it one of my favorite movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 It's great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Great main theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Tombstone is highly quotable, and Dana Delaney is an absolute fox in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I first saw her in Desperate Housewives, where I thought "she would have been a hottie a decade ago". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I like how they kill Cal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 5 hours ago, Rose Dawson said: A 70 year old Harrison Ford bumbling into a garishly photographed house yelling "Hello?! Can I use the phone?!" is the high point of the movie? Oh sure great, don't wait for me! Best line in the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 It's all in the delivery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,982 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 The opening, as ridiculous as it may be, is still the best segment of this film. And the motorcycle chase. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,633 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 On 2/22/2017 at 0:25 PM, Quintus said: For me it's tied with his War of the Worlds, but don't you actually quite like Indiana Jones 4? Had WotW been released in early 2002, it might have worked However, to make a movie that self-consciously tries to tap into fears of terrorism in the way it did 4 years after 9/11 is just ridiculous. No 8 year old girl in 2005 would have been yelling "is it the terrorists." I think Spielberg wants to have a deep message in many of his films post SL, but he just doesn't have anything profound to say. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 David Koepp's hamfisted paws being all over the dialogue are a major problem for me with that movie. It's probably the most insulting movie of Spielberg's career because of it, but not because of the post 9/11 commentary (which I wouldn't have minded at all had the film been more convincing). No, the script treats the viewer like a complete idiot. More annoyingly, I really dig the opening of the movie: the mounting of the arrival and then the opening and ruthless salvo are once again pure Spielberg - only to unravel into something far less arresting immediately afterwards. And John's score doesn't fuck about (unlike Spielberg), it's excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Excellent film! Much underrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I like it. It's got a good "Saturday night on TV" vibe. 8 hours ago, Tom said: Had WotW been released in early 2002, it might have worked However, to make a movie that self-consciously tries to tap into fears of terrorism in the way it did 4 years after 9/11 is just ridiculous. No 8 year old girl in 2005 would have been yelling "is it the terrorists." I think Spielberg wants to have a deep message in many of his films post SL, but he just doesn't have anything profound to say. A.I. is post SL and is likely his most profound film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,329 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Yeah, but.... Kubrick, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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