Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Isn't Always his most profound film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 No his beloved E.T. is by all accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,654 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 7 hours ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: I like it. It's got a good "Saturday night on TV" vibe. A.I. is post SL and is likely his most profound film. I think it is a well-executed movie, but in terms of profundity, I have seen Artificial Intelligence stories done better on Outer Limit episodes, not to mention Data from ST. It just feels like rehash in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Quintus said: No his beloved E.T. is by all accounts. No no, slowly the tide is turning for Always, you can feel it. In about two years time it will be declared an misunderstood masterpiece. Spielberg's best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Yes, Always will soon be better than everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Have you seen Always, Quint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Years ago when I was about 17. I can't really remember it. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Just curious. It has become a running joke here. Who's really seen it remains vague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I've never seen it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 38 minutes ago, publicist said: Just curious. It has become a running joke here. Who's really seen it remains vague. That, and Sony Trinitrons. Basically, Justin is JWFan's trend setter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Even we had one in the early 90's. A monster like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Young Adult. Liked the music and Patton Oswalt. Stupid movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Quintus said: Years ago when I was about 17. I can't really remember it. Why? Ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon McBride 113 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Seven Samurai World War Z also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I had fun with World War Z, despite being annoyed with the PG13ness of it all. It should have been R. I'm glad the sequel has been delayed indefinitely; It doesn't need one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Air Force One Terrific. Ford is so great. I'm sure that many non-Americans hate this, because it's kind of a "Yay America!" schmaltz-fest. But, being American, I loved this. Gripping and incredibly stirring. Definitely superior to, say, Rogue One, to give a recent action film example. I definitely grinned a few times (empty pod cut to Ford stepping out, for instance). But at the same time the film managed to have quite a bit of emotion and you really got a feel for the kind of dilemmas the various characters faced. It also helped that I often fantasize about working in the high levels of government, so all of the White House crisis scenes really hit home. Oh, and loved the music. Giving the OST a listen now (I'd only heard the terrific first track in the past - particularly the action second half is incredible). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon McBride 113 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Jay said: I had fun with World War Z, despite being annoyed with the PG13ness of it all. It should have been R. I'm glad the sequel has been delayed indefinitely; It doesn't need one. I'm glad it was pg-13, and yeah, there doesn't need to be a sequel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Glad it was PG13? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon McBride 113 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 It's because I'm super religious haha. While not specifically a rule that we're not supposed to watch R movies, it's generally frowned upon. If I do watch an R rated movie it almost always edited (but not 100% of the time) EDIT: What I'm trying to say, is that I don't watch movies that are inappropriate regardless of the rating. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Will said: Oh, and loved the music. Giving the OST a listen now (I'd only heard the terrific first track in the past - particularly the action second half is incredible). The Hijacking is a great Goldsmith action cue. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, Hawmy said: It's because I'm super religious haha. While not specifically a rule that we're not supposed to watch R movies, it's generally frowned upon. If I do watch an R rated movie it almost always edited (but not 100% of the time) People shouldn't let an arbitrary letter/number impede their enjoyment of cinema. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Indeed! I never understood that just because you believe in God, you're not supposed to watch movies of a certain rating. The Passion Of The Christ was super violent anyway, and Christians watched that in huge numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon McBride 113 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 It's not about the rating, It's about the content. That's all I'm trying to say. There are plenty of PG-13 movies I would never watch, but something like the Matrix, where the only reason it's R is because the song during the credits says the F-word 4 times, is totally different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Mormons can't say the fuck word? Who knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 That makes more sense. Well, not really (since i'm an atheist), but it seems less arbitrary than not watching a film because of a rating. 1 minute ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: Mormons can't say the fuck word? Who knew. Catholics can and do! Over and over, in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 We do in this household! Catholics and the C of E unite to fuck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Stefancos said: That makes more sense. Well, not really (since i'm an atheist), but it seems less arbitrary than not watching a film because of a rating. It's also someone else's evaluation of the content. Why trust them? Is their judgement better than ours? It's like how Drag Me To Hell received a PG-13 rating in the US, but received a harsher MA15+ in Australia. The Australian Office of Film and Literature Classification has demonstrated that it can be even more prudish than its American counterpart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon McBride 113 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Not that we can't, but we shouldn't. I know plenty of Mormons who cuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Hawmy said: It's because I'm super religious haha. While not specifically a rule that we're not supposed to watch R movies, it's generally frowned upon. If I do watch an R rated movie it almost always edited (but not 100% of the time) EDIT: What I'm trying to say, is that I don't watch movies that are inappropriate regardless of the rating. Always edited? Is there some organization that goes through and makes Jesus-approved cuts of R-rated films? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Like japanese porn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon McBride 113 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 37 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: Always edited? Is there some organization that goes through and makes Jesus-approved cuts of R-rated films? Haha no. I edit them myself using some fancy editing software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 What is the point of that when you obviously have to watch and rewatch the incriminating parts during editing anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon McBride 113 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I don't have to watch the incriminating part. The software I use works like a remote. It mutes and skips specific parts that other people have already marked. I just go through a list and pick what I want to skip/mute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 That seems like quite an editorial undertaking! I wish they would offer such a service for boring parts, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Haha, i still remember a Berlin cinema back in '97 getting into stand up comedy frenzy during AFO and i myself standing and saluting back some heroic jet pilot. Goldsmith's music was straight outrageousness and it never crossed anyone's mind that it possibly could be taken seriously (Wolfgang Petersen might not be a subversive director but even he thought it goofy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 To me it was Ford in decline. Alex - party pooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,357 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Each to their own I guess, but a belief system that dictates to you what you should and shouldn't be watching sounds like hell to me (also what you should and shouldn't be eating ... fish on a Friday for Catholics , no pork for Jews etc). Fuck that shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Agreed! Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,192 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 5 hours ago, BloodBoal said: Oh, no. Most non-Americans like it. It's a fun film with a really silly/stupid and over-the-top premise (which is what makes it enjoyable in the first place). What's less to like is the fact that probably a lot of Americans think it could happen in real life ("The President kicking the terrorists' asses? Of course it could happen! Because he's American!"). The fact that you used the word "stirring" to describe it is proof of that! We non-American see it as a dumb but fun action movie, you guys probably see it as an inspiring, uplifting piece of filmmaking that should be shown in schools! I find it worrisome, most of all. Seems anyone who cheers Ford in this movie for being a great president got their wish with Trump. And while it seems outrageous enough to seem baffling that it could be meant seriously, it never gives the impression that it tries to be satirical. "Mindless fun"? Perhaps, but with dangerous implications. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 The best part is the Trump Theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Stop fucking caling it that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 What, you mean the Trump Theme, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 12 hours ago, Will said: Air Force One Terrific. Ford is so great. I'm sure that many non-Americans hate this, because it's kind of a "Yay America!" schmaltz-fest. But, being American, I loved this. Gripping and incredibly stirring. Definitely superior to, say, Rogue One, to give a recent action film example. I definitely grinned a few times (empty pod cut to Ford stepping out, for instance). But at the same time the film managed to have quite a bit of emotion and you really got a feel for the kind of dilemmas the various characters faced. It also helped that I often fantasize about working in the high levels of government, so all of the White House crisis scenes really hit home. Oh, and loved the music. Giving the OST a listen now (I'd only heard the terrific first track in the past - particularly the action second half is incredible). I haven't seen Air Force One in probably twenty years, but the seventeen year old me who saw it theaters loved it for sure. I do remember thinking the CGI for the plane crash at the end was exceptionally poor, did you notice anything like that? And the score is just effing brilliant ; it's one of my favorite Jerry scores. The OST is a fantastic high octane 30 minute action extravaganza, it's easily found on Spotify. The complete score leaked ages ago and it's definitely my #1 most requested release for Townson to finally get to at Varese for a Deluxe Edition. Hopefully this year for the 20th! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Twenty years? Feels like it came out only a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 "Get off my plane!" Trump is saving that one for the right moment. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 What's your favorite version of the Trump theme, Koray? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 March of the Villains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: I find it worrisome, most of all. Seems anyone who cheers Ford in this movie for being a great president got their wish with Trump. What? President in the movie - seemingly a principled man who loves America and has faught heroically in Vietnam. Is very smart and skilled. Trump - Has never faught in the military and shows contempt for various American principles I'm not seeing the comparison, other then perhaps them both being tough on terror in policy, and I doubt anyone would have brought it up if Trump hadn't used the theme for his rallies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 @Will did you notice bad cgi at the end of the movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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