Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Horror fans are so easy to please. Very forgiving fanbase. Bilbo and Not Mr. Big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 If I'm so easy to please, then why doesn't LOTR do it for me? Speaking of horror, I watched Saw III last night. Not bad at all! But the ending seems pretty final, but they made four more and they're making another one! I can't wait to see what Saw IV is like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Godzilla said: If I'm so easy to please, then why doesn't LOTR do it for me? Because it's not horror? I meant within the genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 It's been about 15 years since I watched LOTR, but I recall it having a bit of an identity crisis by trying to be all serious but the director can't quite leave his background behind and lets some of his horror schlockiness seep through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 None of the scenes in LOTR can be even remotely compared to horror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Bad Taste > LOTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Only if you have bad taste! Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Just now, JohnSolo said: None of the scenes in LOTR can be even remotely compared to horror. He means things like when the orcs eat one of their own and you see intestines flying. That's the first one that comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Ha! It looked like confetti! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 You must use some really weird confetti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 But Alien: Covenant. I mean. Wow. That movie was awesome. It's going to be difficult ranking the best movies this year between that, Logan and Kong: Skull Island as the best of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Honestly, that scene is the closest you get to full-on gore in a LOTR film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Yeah, at least compared to PJ's earlier work..... Great movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I only watched the first LOTR and was falling asleep throughout, but I remember a scene with a bunch of monsters running around in broad daylight that looked really schlocky. The battle between the Ewoks and monsters at the end of the second Ewok movie looked better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I bought the blu-ray set in 2012 and I still haven't even watched it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 31 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Bad Taste > LOTR Braindead is the superior movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 My deep, abiding love for Bad Taste is entirely based in the great memories I have of watching it with my best friends in high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Much prefer Braindead for that sort of thing. Probably because it's more like Evil Dead 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I should watch that. That Ash seems like my kinda hero! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 16 minutes ago, Stefancos said: I should watch that. That Ash seems like my kinda hero! I got a call one day—I've told this story, but it's a good one—a real typical Jim Cameron conversation. "Hey, Bill, have you seen Evil Dead 2 yet?" "No, what's Evil Dead 2?" "I'll pick you up in 15 minutes." Click. We drove out to East L.A., to some 99-cent house, five o'clock in the afternoon. We sit down and he goes, "Watch this." And at the end, he goes, "This guy's a hell of a filmmaker. It's not every day that you see a movie that starts a new genre: the horror cartoon." -- Bill Paxton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I confessedly feel Braindead (or Dead Alive, I think either title works) is even better than anything Evil Dead-related. Horror fans are indeed a more laid-back crowd than usual, I can confirm that. But Alien: Covenant sounds like pure utter nonsense of the disposable sort. Matt C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Braindead was okay for a couple of viewings with my mates back in the day. But it didn't have the lasting appeal and rewatchability factor that Evil Dead had, not even close. 'Tis the original init. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Dead Alive makes me happier. Ash's life is kind of depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Depressing? Ash is a silly character. By the time the TV series arrived, he's a cringy sad bastard who doesn't give a fuck anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 For your eyes only. Certainly not bad at all! Especially the first half was good. I did lose some interest during the second part, but the final scene was totally worth it. Didn't like Melina and don't understand why the general didn't try to kill Bond at the end. The score was really interesting. It was overflowing with energy, joy and emotion all the time. Possibly my favourite Bond score so far, though that On Her Majesty's Secret Service theme was equally good, but here, the underscore was definitely superior to anything I've heard in the series so far. During one chase sequence, I did fear the worst after a two-note theme clearly suggested Jaws would make another appearance, but luckily that didn't happen. And the song is most definitely my favourite so far: its mood was oddly fitting given Moore's passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,358 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 'That's detente, comrade ... you don't have it, I don't have it' is one of Moore's finest Bond scenes. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Stinging in the rain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Summer Lovers Ah yes, the 1970s and 1980s occasionally turned out the 'travelogue masquerading as a movie' subgenre, like The Wilderness Family. Only this time, featuring a young couple vacationing in the Greek Isles and having a menage a trois with a French woman. Randal Kleiser's screenplay is rather vacuous and his directing isn't much better, but the gorgeous cinematography and the three beautiful leads (Peter Gallagher, Daryl Hannah, Valerie Quenessen) elevate the movie above otherwise forgettable '80s fluff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 On 2017-5-27 at 3:28 PM, Disco Stu said: I totally get criticism of the Shermans being too cheesy and saccharine in some films, but their music for Poppins is pure joy. "Feed the Birds" can make me cry to this day. I didn't much like Marry Poppins. Not the film, and not the songs and score. But Feed the Birds is brilliant and the reason why I'll probably end up getting the CD anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 I watched Jaws tonight, for the first time in 5+ years. The shark maaan, it looked... fine. It looks absolutely fine! 2017 - the Jaws hairstyles look more dated than the special effects. Timelessness confirmed. mrbellamy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 The cars date it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 What's a 2017 hairstyle? Seems today people just wear whatever they like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 51 minutes ago, Godzilla said: What's a 2017 hairstyle? An undercut? Also the answer to "what's a 1937 Hitlerjugend hairstyle?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 I haven't seen any undercuts around. Although Rick from Bold and the Beautiful has been sporting an SS officer look lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Sleeping Beauty (1959) Watched with my daughter. This is still one of my favorite Disney animated films but if I were to have a "hot take" it would be what utterly foolish, selfish failures the three fairies in the film are. They rob the king and queen of raising their only child, fail utterly at their task through their own reckless negligence, then cast a spell on the whole kingdom to cover up their failure. Great movie though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Captain from Castile Great first hour, has that intrigue and rousing swashbuckling action that made Tyrone Power a star with The Mark of Zorro. Once Power's Pedro gets to the New World, it turns into tedious melodrama. (That sarabanda scene with him and Jean Peters is still quite sensuous, given that it was made in the 1940s.) Sumptuous Technicolor cinematography and a rousing Alfred Newman score. I would love to see another director take a stab at the swashbuckler genre. The Pirates of the Caribbean films just aren't cutting it, strip out the CGI, cut out the anachronisms, and go for an old-fashioned mid-budget style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 You think the 40's pirates films weren't anachronistic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 There's funny intentional anachronisms in the third Pirates movie that I like, like using real pirate flags and referencing real pirates from different places and centuries putting them all together. It gets away with it because of the themes and the tone (there's anti-colonial overtones that I imagine I won't see in older movies, and the marine folklore and superstition turned into reality is actually kinda original to me). But I'm not well versed into the older pirate movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 It's an inferior 'genre'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 They probably paid a lot more attention/care to the westerns. Maybe cheaper to film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 The western lies in the very heart of America's mythology about itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 I wish there were more "space" Westerns! Star Trek is very much in that tradition. We love our American mythos about pushing ever outwards, always staying on the frontier, and telling stories about the complications that can arise from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 I dunno, to me the whole "wagon train to the stars" aspect of Star Trek has always been a bit overstated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Nah. Properly stated. Not over, not under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Please explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 The similarities are not one-to-one, but basically all Westerns are about white people exploring and colonizing Western territory and the friction that happens with either (a) the environment, (b) native Americans, (c) Mexicans, or (d) human nature in those extreme frontiers. Basically Star Trek is about humans exploring out into space and the friction that happens with (a) the environment, (b) native cultures, (c) other space-faring cultures also pushing out, or (d) human nature on the extreme frontier. I'm over simplifying of course, just to point out the similarities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Those are very broad similarities though, which you could easily apply to other cultures than the classic Western frontier.The strong military aspect of Star Trek makes it distinctly unwestern to me. And yes, Starfleet IS military, despite what Roddenberry may have told hippies the the 70's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 And you would know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Yes, as I said, the similarities aren't one-to-one. It's why DS9 is the best series, because the scope of characters was more broad, less focused on just military. But simplifying even further, both are about stories told on the frontier, where characters' morals are tested because they have to hold themselves accountable where the law might not. 1 minute ago, BloodBoal said: Star Trek never felt particularly western-y to me. Maybe there are some similarities, like the ones Stu mentioned, but in terms of tone and atmosphere (which are an integral part of the western genre), Star Trek is vastly different! I never said the tones were the same! But they satisfy some of the same human storytelling instincts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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