What Is The Last Film You Watched? (Older Films)

[Romão 2,274]

I adore the score

[Naïve Old Fart 9,515]

The score, is, indeed, great, and it's more David Shire.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

The Conversation has one of my favorite final shots for any movie, ever.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Mulholland Drive

 

Well they both had good tits. The dark haired one had big tits and the blonde one had little tits. But the blonde one had a neat little figure too.

 

Oh and there was a plot there too. Nice of David Lynch to make a bizarre and incomprehensible film for a change.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Just now, Sally Spectra said:

Mulholland Drive

 

Well they both had good tits. The dark haired one had big tits and the blonde one had little tits. But the blonde one had a neat little figure too.

 

Oh and there was a plot there too. Nice of David Lynch to make a bizarre and incomprehensible film for a change.

 

Thor bait

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

26 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

 

Thor bait

 

Is he not a fan?

[Disco Stu 15,495]

2 minutes ago, Sally Spectra said:

 

Is he not a fan?

 

He's a Lynchian zealot.

 

He'd probably take issue with your interpretation  

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

I made no interpretation, merely an observation - the two actresses look good naked.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

I meant the "incomprehensible" part.

[A24 4,331]

Drax will not be getting a lesson from Thor because he only visits the Alien universe threads.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Just now, Alexcremers said:

Drax will not be getting a lesson from Thor because he only visits the Alien universe threads.

 

And Twin Peaks!  Pages and pages of Twin Peaks.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

And the Twin Peaks thread, which you seem to be steering clear of.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

6 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

I meant the "incomprehensible" part.

 

Oh I'm formulating a theory on what the movie's about as we speak.

[A24 4,331]

I've not seen anything from the new Twin Peaks so I'm not going to visit that thread.

 

1 minute ago, Stefancos said:

And the Twin Peaks thread, which you seem to be steering clear of.

 

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Just now, Sally Spectra said:

 

Oh I'm formulating a theory on what the movie's about as we speak.

 

Well, I was really just making a joke at Thor's expense, a JWFan Classic.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Just now, Disco Stu said:

 

Well, I was really just making a joke at Thor's expense, a JWFan Classic.

 

Well here's what I reckon happened in this cryptic film:

 

Spoiler

Naomi Watts falls in love with Laura Harring after taking her into her home and helping her investigate who she was before she lost her memory. But after seeing the corpse in that apartment, they gave up and decided to leave the past behind and explore their attraction. Then of course they have sex. It's at this point in the movie where it takes a truly bizarre turn because Naomi Watts is now dreaming of her new lover and how everything could go cataclysmically wrong with her - it's her subconscious warning her that Laura Harring may not be all that she seems and could betray her, leading her to heartbreak and ending up like that dead woman on the bed.

 

And all that stuff about the film director? I have no clue how all that fits in.

 

[Disco Stu 15,495]

4 minutes ago, Sally Spectra said:

 

Well here's what I reckon happened in this cryptic film:

 

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Naomi Watts falls in love with Laura Harring after taking her into her home and helping her investigate who she was before she lost her memory. But after seeing the corpse in that apartment, they gave up and decided to leave the past behind and explore their attraction. Then of course they have sex. It's at this point in the movie where it takes a truly bizarre turn because Naomi Watts is now dreaming of her new lover and how everything could go cataclysmically wrong with her - it's her subconscious warning her that Laura Harring may not be all that she seems and could betray her, leading her to heartbreak and ending up like that dead woman on the bed.

 

And all that stuff about the film director? I have no clue how all that fits in.

 

 

100% correct, you got it.

 

Did I mention I haven't seen it?  

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Well we'll ask @Thor

[Jay 37,346]

It's the other way around Drax, the first 3/4 of the film is her dream, the ending part is reality

[Brónach 1,302]

On 13/7/2017 at 7:21 PM, KK said:

It really is funny how ridiculously boring that movie ended up being, especially with the kind of cast it was boasting.

 

It's a wasted opportunity and the third act doesn't deserve the first two.

[Fancyarcher 350]

Spider-Man 2 - 9 / 10

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

6 hours ago, Jay said:

It's the other way around Drax, the first 3/4 of the film is her dream, the ending part is reality

 

No way, really? Funny, everything changes when they go to bed, so I assumed one of them had a dream.

 

Reminds me of how I was wrong about the ending to The Sixth Sense when I first saw it.

[Brundlefly 2,385]

Nightcrawler - This is a very good example of a film, produced with much expenditure which is nevertheless provoking and does not leave us with a good feeling nor with pure depression. It's too many-faceted to be immediately classified. A Star Wars film as thematically outstanding would be nice.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

12 minutes ago, Brundlefly said:

Nightcrawler - This is a very good example of a film, produced with much expenditure which is nevertheless provoking and does not leave us with a good feeling nor with pure depression. It's too many-faceted to be immediately classified. A Star Wars film as thematically outstanding would be nice.

 

 One of the best movies of the decade 

[Brundlefly 2,385]

1 minute ago, Disco Stu said:

 

 One of the best movies of the decade 

And it's nice to see that such innovative movies can still be being produced.

[Fancyarcher 350]

Back To The Future - 10 / 10 - Saw it on the big screen this time with a big audience, was quite the experience.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,515]

I saw BTTF  on its first night in December, 1985, at The Empire Leicester Square. One could see the front five rows physically move back in their seats, at the speaker reveal!

[BloodBoal 7,538]

7 hours ago, Sally Spectra said:

No way, really? Funny, everything changes when they go to bed, so I assumed one of them had a dream.

 

Don't listen to LeBlanc. There's no definitive and clear-cut explanation for what happens in that film. Lots of possible interpretations. Yours is no less valid than his.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

2 hours ago, BloodBoal said:

 

Don't listen to LeBlanc. There's no definitive and clear-cut explanation for what happens in that film. Lots of possible interpretations. Yours is no less valid than his.

 

I like to think mine is more optimistic.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

I haven't seen that film, but i'm sure LeBlanc's explanation is the one that "makes the most sense".

[Marian Schedenig 8,192]

(Trying not to read any of the comments on Mulholland Dr, since I still haven't seen it)

[BloodBoal 7,538]

Then what are you waiting for?!

[Disco Stu 15,495]

I'm not much of a Lynch fan.  Wild at Heart is my favorite of his films I've seen (which includes Eraserhead, Blue Velvet, and The Elephant Man).  All fine and interesting but I don't think about them and they hold no personal meaning for me.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Hardly any of the films I've been watching lately have any personal meaning to me, but since they're on TV, I've been giving them a go.

 

Watching American Beauty right now.

[A24 4,331]

3 minutes ago, Sally Spectra said:

 

Watching American Beauty right now.

 

That's another very good one, Drax. You're on a roll!

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

I will sell this house, today...

[Marian Schedenig 8,192]

1 hour ago, BloodBoal said:

Then what are you waiting for?!

 

I've seen the first half hour or so years ago, but then had to turn it off because it scared the shit out of me. I'm more than willing to give it another try these days (I also believe I've gotten used enough to Lynch's weirdness to not freak out so easily), but the available German and UK Blu-rays apparently don't have subtitles - which isn't a no-go for me, but I prefer having them available, so I'm hoping for a better release.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

The cable TV version I saw had closed captions. Should be subtitles available.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

2 minutes ago, BloodBoal said:

 

If the first half hour scared the shit out of you, the ending will give you a heart attack!

 

Spoiler

 

 

[Jay 37,346]

I'm sure there are multiple ways to interpret the movie of course, the most straightforward one is that the ending is reality and the first 3/4 is dream.

 

To be more specific: In reality Naomi Watt's character from the end of the movie (Diane) is from Canada, comes to LA when her Aunt died and left her money, and met Camilla (Laura Harding's character) at an audition.  They had a brief relationship, but it fell apart, and now Camilla's dating the director of the movie and also makes out with the Melissa George character.  Diane hires a hitman to kill Camilla, then has a fever dream just before she kills herself, which is what we see visualized for the bulk of the movie.  In the fever dream, Camilla survives the hit attempt, and Diane has turned herself into Betty, the stereotypical plucky wannabe star arriving in LA who finds Camilla, dubs her Rita, and saves her from all kinds of situations, etc.  Various bits of reality sneak in, she reimagines Melissa George as someone else, imagines her Aunt's landlord as the director's mother, etc, they visit her real apartment with her own corpse in it, etc.

 

As for what the monster behind the diner and the side-story with the hitman stuff is all about, its all just leftovers from when this was shot to be a TV pilot before the movie ending was later filmed.

 

Drax, take your time to read this and then tell us what you think:

 

http://www.salon.com/2001/10/24/mulholland_drive_analysis/

 

 

[Brundlefly 2,385]

7 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said:

I've seen the first half hour or so years ago, but then had to turn it off because it scared the shit out of me.

I've seen some very disturbing films in my life, but there were only two times I couldn't sleep because of a film: The aforementioned one and Inland Empire.

 

1 hour ago, Jay said:

I'm sure there are multiple ways to interpret the movie of course, the most straightforward one is that the ending is reality and the first 3/4 is dream.

 

To be more specific: In reality Naomi Watt's character from the end of the movie (Diane) is from Canada, comes to LA when her Aunt died and left her money, and met Camilla (Laura Harding's character) at an audition.  They had a brief relationship, but it fell apart, and now Camilla's dating the director of the movie and also makes out with the Melissa George character.  Diane hires a hitman to kill Camilla, then has a fever dream just before she kills herself, which is what we see visualized for the bulk of the movie.  In the fever dream, Camilla survives the hit attempt, and Diane has turned herself into Betty, the stereotypical plucky wannabe star arriving in LA who finds Camilla, dubs her Rita, and saves her from all kinds of situations, etc.  Various bits of reality sneak in, she reimagines Melissa George as someone else, imagines her Aunt's landlord as the director's mother, etc, they visit her real apartment with her own corpse in it, etc.

 

As for what the monster behind the diner and the side-story with the hitman stuff is all about, its all just leftovers from when this was shot to be a TV pilot before the movie ending was later filmed. 

This is a plain analysis of the content, but it's not that easy. Lynch himself does not like any analysis of his movies. The difficulty is that the way to understand his films is 1. to combine clues of the form, the content and the personal experience and 2. not to understand his films. That sounds illogical, but I've actually written a research paper on this which does not analyse the films themselves, but it helps to understand how to understand their intended effect on the viewer. Luckily I had to write it in english and not in german, so I can show it on this forum.

 

8 hours ago, Disco Stu said:

I'm not much of a Lynch fan.  Wild at Heart is my favorite of his films I've seen (which includes Eraserhead, Blue Velvet, and The Elephant Man).  All fine and interesting but I don't think about them and they hold no personal meaning for me.

So you've left out his cinematicly most inspiring and fascinating work or maybe THE most creatively created movie of all time (this and City of God): Lost Highway. I really recommend it!

[Koray Savas 2,251]

13 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said:

(Trying not to read any of the comments on Mulholland Dr, since I still haven't seen it)

Ditto, and I amazingly avoided spoilers for it this whole time but this thread was the one that broke that. Always knew there was a twist ending though. 

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

20 hours ago, Richard said:

I saw BTTF  on its first night in December, 1985, at The Empire Leicester Square. One could see the front five rows physically move back in their seats, at the speaker reveal!

 

 

"I saw it once in London, in Leicester Square!"

 

Is that you?

[Naïve Old Fart 9,515]

You made me miss!

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

American Beauty

 

Was Dreamworks pictures at some point out to slam the so-called "American Dream" with these satirical condemnations of suburbia? The other I watched recently being House of Sand and Fog, being a more melodramatic portrayal of 'Trouble in Paradise'.

 

Anyhoo, there's a lot of wanking in this movie. Is that meant to be a sign that you're watching high grade, arty cinema? It's the second film in a row of this calibre I've seen with scenes of characters masturbating. The other I'm referring to is Mulholland Drive, and of course I recently watched something from thrillerville which had Single White Female about a decade earlier. And of course the 1998 Psycho remake. Masturbation scenes are never really 'part of the furniture' in cinema and I doubt they ever will be in my lifetime. The filmmakers know it's still a taboo and a significant part of their intention to include them is to embarrass and shock their audience, who they know are still prudish about this stuff when they're not secretly away jacking off to porn that depicts someone playing with themselves.

 

I remember the first episode of American Horror Story was masturbation scenes galore. I wondered are they really breaking barriers or is it still intended as shock value? Because you'd never see this on The Bold and the Beautiful - sex between couples is always suggested without a blink of an eye, but Hell would freeze over if someone was caught feeling themselves. The only scene I remember was a few years ago when Nick was given a cup to donate his sperm, and some comedic music played, but that was all for the purpose of procreation, not self gratification. Context seems to be everything.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

Masturbation scenes never serve a purpose except to occasionally make you laugh. It's funny you mention Psycho, since that was an alteration from the original film. Forgetting the fact that it wasn't a shot-for-shot remake for a second. Because, you know, It wasn't. It's missing scenes and has unique shots, how in the hell does that work? Anyway, forget about that for a second. Of all the things to change or add in a remake, why have Norman awkwardly jacking off behind the wall? If anything, it makes the scene silly and destroys the tension because there's no longer any mystery as to what's going on. The manager's just having a good wank to the broad who checked in.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Obviously to make it more 90s and "edgy". It's something we awkwardly laugh at in contemporary times, but it would never have been mentioned openly in the polite society of 1960. But like I said it's still a shock gag today whether we like it or not. Because teh Bible says no.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

[publicist 4,643]

Masturbation isn't any different from watching people having sex on the screen. Without a proper context (say, 'Basic Instinct') it is always embarrassing. Nobody wants to see people kissing for hours, either.