What Is The Last Film You Watched? (Older Films)

[Admiral Holdo 16]

Neil is entitled to his opinion.

If I said I didn't think Crystal Skull was a bad movie, you'd all go apeshit.

(Not true, btw - I got through 46 minutes of it last night before I had to shut it off. Just... just a failure of a film.)

[Wojo 2,453]

Crystal Skull wasn't a bad movie.

It was a terrible movie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There's a difference.

[Faleel 5,348]

I only listen to soundtracks, I made a vow.

[Admiral Holdo 16]

Heh, understood. It's weird... I saw it at a midnight show when it came out (I was... good lord, 15!) and remembered liking the hell out of it, but I hadn't watched it again until last night. From the moment it started (incidentally... the molehill stuff? Eh, not great but not worth complaining about), I could see it trying to set a rhythm and not quite getting there.

I could go on and on about what's wrong with it, but you guys have spent the last 4 years doing that, haven'tcha? If nothing else, it's making me revisit the score, so at least there's that.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

You see Harrison Ford in the getup and want to believe it's good. But, nope.

[gkgyver 1,645]

You see Harrison Ford in the getup and want to believe it's good. But, nope.

That's exactly the tone of the entire film.

You see Indy on the screen and you have a smile on your face, but then the dialogue sinks in, and the plot slowly dies, and you're confronted with CGI plants, and cheesy acting, and it all ends with a cheesy wedding scene, and you don't want to believe what you're watching. And then the Raiders March kicks in and you realise, my god, it was indeed an Indiana Jones movie.

On the other hand, I was, for whatever perverted reason, watching Carrie 2 tonight, so there are some movie that put Crystal Skull into perspective.

The scene when that girl at the party gets cut apart by flying CDs, that's how I imagine John Williams fans are fantasising about killing George Lucas.

[Quintus 5,399]

I knew something was horribly wrong from the moment Ford said "wubble"

[gkgyver 1,645]

I knew something was wrong when I saw and heard Cate Blanchett's ridiculous acting.

[indy4 155]

I could go on and on about what's wrong with it, but you guys have spent the last 4 years doing that, haven'tcha?

Hey, I have been defending it for the last 4 years!

I saw The Emperor's Naked Army Marches On, an interesting look into a very different perspective, and some shocking history about WWII.

[Admiral Holdo 16]

I could go on and on about what's wrong with it, but you guys have spent the last 4 years doing that, haven'tcha?

Hey, I have been defending it for the last 4 years!

Hey, no judgment here. Hatred's a waste of energy, especially for a movie. So much easier to like something, or else not even bother.

It's why my eyes almost roll out of my skull when people go apeshit on movies like the Star Wars Prequels, Matrix sequels, Superman Returns, etc.

[Datameister 2,042]

Speaking of subpar Indy films, I watched TOD today. My disdain for this film has been no secret, but I must say, I may have been a bit too harsh in the past. If I look past certain huge problems (Willie, poor writing, some bizarre acting on Harrison Ford's part, over-reliance on a single setting, etc.), there's actually a lot of heart in this film, and a good number of classic Spielberg moments. And of course, the score is still fantastic.

[MrJosh 892]

I love the bizarre acting when Indy is like "WEEE ARE GOING TO DIEEEE" lolol

[Brónach 1,302]

I love the bizarre acting when Indy is like "WEEE ARE GOING TO DIEEEE" lolol

The face he makes there is hilarious.

[Datameister 2,042]

That's one of the best examples of it, yep. I have no idea whose idea it was to put that into the film, but it's one of the worst moments in any of the films.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

Holy hell, are you wrong. It is absolutely one of the best moments.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

Speaking of subpar Indy films, I watched TOD today. My disdain for this film has been no secret, but I must say, I may have been a bit too harsh in the past. If I look past certain huge problems (Willie, poor writing, some bizarre acting on Harrison Ford's part, over-reliance on a single setting, etc.), there's actually a lot of heart in this film, and a good number of classic Spielberg moments. And of course, the score is still fantastic.

Willie is great, no poor writing, and Ford is the best of the 4 films.

[Quintus 5,399]

That's one of the best examples of it, yep. I have no idea whose idea it was to put that into the film, but it's one of the worst moments in any of the films.

Wrong, it's one of the most universally loved moments in the trilogy. That, and the shot of Indy's angry fist poking through the hole.The entire spikes chamber scene is legendary.

[Brónach 1,302]

And the music just accentuates the effect. Da, da, parabara, da, da parabara...

[gkgyver 1,645]

What the hell is "parabara"?

[Delorean90 42]

Definitely a great moment. Raiders has a certain maturity to it that the others don't, but I think TOD is the best of the lot for pure pulp adventure--a good Saturday matinee, right down to the closing shot.

[Datameister 2,042]

The entire spikes chamber scene is legendary.

I won't argue with you there - as a whole, it's one of my top favorite sequences in all the films. It's just that one shot that makes me cringe.

And the music just accentuates the effect. Da, da, parabara, da, da parabara...

Also a phenomenally well-scored scene. One of my favorite cues from this score, and that's saying quite a bit. No complaints there, either.

Willie is great...

Until she opens her mouth, sure.

...no poor writing...

"...and I hate YOU!" "Good!"

...and Ford is the best of the 4 films.

He absolutely knocked it out of the park in Raiders. He has his moments in TOD, and the action/stuntwork remains very impressive, but there are some pretty strange, un-Indy-ish moments (see above), and there are a lot of other scenes where something is more subtly "off." You very aptly used the word "maturity" when describing Raiders, Delorean90, and I think that's the best one-word summary of why I vastly prefer it over its sequels and prequel. Even though I'm currently appreciating TOD more than ever before, it just feels so infantile in comparison, particularly when it's trying to be funny. Raiders gets a lot more laughs (at least from me) and it doesn't try nearly as hard.

[MrJosh 892]

What the hell is "parabara"?

[Delorean90 42]

"Bug Tunnel and Death Trap," or, more specifically, the third through sixth notes of that cue's theme.

[Wojo 2,453]

What the hell is "parabara"?

TOD's not on my iPod and I cannot seem to remember any of that scene's music, but I believe Chaac was "singing" the music to that scene as best he could in typing.

[Joni Wiljami 1,206]

And he did fine. That rising da,da parabara is brilliant moment.

[KK 3,307]

Watched A Beautiful Mind againlast night. I always enjoyed this film and felt that it was quite well executed (with great acting, especially on Crowe's part). It was nice revisiting it.

[Incanus 5,714]

North by Northwest: A classic Hitchcock picture I simply enjoy watching every time. All elements come together so effortlessly in this surprisingly breezy picture from master of suspence. Herrmann's excellent, exciting and suave score is almost a character in its own right in the film I am happy to say. The cast is spot on with Gary Grant, James Mason, Martin Landau and Eva Marie Saint in central roles having a great chemistry between them. And I am sad to say few directors these days have this unique visual flair Hitchcock had in his films or his understanding suspence and building it.

[MrJosh 892]

What the hell is "parabara"?

TOD's not on my iPod and I cannot seem to remember any of that scene's music, but I believe Chaac was "singing" the music to that scene as best he could in typing.

I just listened to it Now I will remember these awesome lyrics next time I listen parabara

[Marian Schedenig 8,193]

North by Northwest: A classic Hitchcock picture I simply enjoy watching every time. All elements come together so effortlessly in this surprisingly breezy picture from master of suspence. Herrmann's excellent, exciting and suave score is almost a character in its own right in the film I am happy to say. The cast is spot on with Gary Grant, James Mason, Martin Landau and Eva Marie Saint in central roles having a great chemistry between them. And I am sad to say few directors these days have this unique visual flair Hitchcock had in his films or his understanding suspence and building it.

Lehman's script is also brilliant. It's the most quotable movie this side of Big Lebowski and Sneakers. And I believe the train meeting between Craig and Green in Casino Royale was inspired by it.

[Incanus 5,714]

North by Northwest: A classic Hitchcock picture I simply enjoy watching every time. All elements come together so effortlessly in this surprisingly breezy picture from master of suspence. Herrmann's excellent, exciting and suave score is almost a character in its own right in the film I am happy to say. The cast is spot on with Gary Grant, James Mason, Martin Landau and Eva Marie Saint in central roles having a great chemistry between them. And I am sad to say few directors these days have this unique visual flair Hitchcock had in his films or his understanding suspence and building it.

Lehman's script is also brilliant. It's the most quotable movie this side of Big Lebowski and Sneakers. And I believe the train meeting between Craig and Green in Casino Royale was inspired by it.

Indeed. The script is truly terrific, the story containing just right amount of suspence, humor and danger. Oh and memorable lines of course.

[Quintus 5,399]

I'm surprised it's not been remade yet. With George bloody Clooney.

[Admiral Holdo 16]

Speaking of subpar Indy films, I watched TOD today. My disdain for this film has been no secret, but I must say, I may have been a bit too harsh in the past. If I look past certain huge problems (Willie, poor writing, some bizarre acting on Harrison Ford's part, over-reliance on a single setting, etc.), there's actually a lot of heart in this film, and a good number of classic Spielberg moments. And of course, the score is still fantastic.

It's the best of the sequels (and my personal favorite film/score of the series), if only because it's doing its own thing instead of trying to recapture what made Raiders work.

[Joni Wiljami 1,206]

I think TOD is incredibly annoying film but I forgive them because this madness gave us incredibly imaginative score. In a good way.

[KK 3,307]

I often find TOD and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull tied for worst sequel, although the latter tends to win on that front these days.

[crocodile 8,012]

I'm surprised it's not been remade yet. With George bloody Clooney.

Directed by Steven friggin Soderbergh, I take it?

Karol

[Quintus 5,399]

Nah, I was thinking someone like Duncan Jones. He seems to think he's got the heavyweight chops enough to dare take on Hitchcock. Plus he's hip at the moment, no?

[mrbellamy 6,287]

Raiders has a certain maturity to it that the others don't, but I think TOD is the best of the lot for pure pulp adventure--a good Saturday matinee, right down to the closing shot.

Yep. And actually, while I prefer Raiders as a movie, I think TOD far surpasses any of the others in terms of capturing the spirit of its influences.

And I love everything about the spike room scene. John's "countdown motif" always makes me laugh when it comes in, it's so over-the-top and yet incredibly suspenseful at the same time. Perfect.

[Taikomochi 1,136]

I hated TOD on first viewing. I have come to love it, though. It's my favorite Indy.

[Datameister 2,042]

It's the best of the sequels (and my personal favorite film/score of the series), if only because it's doing its own thing instead of trying to recapture what made Raiders work.

I would not rank "not trying to recapture what made Raiders work" as being among my top reasons for enjoying a film, considering that Raiders is one of my favorite films.

I think TOD is incredibly annoying film but I forgive them because this madness gave us incredibly imaginative score. In a good way.

Can't argue there.

I love everything about the spike room scene. John's "countdown motif" always makes me laugh when it comes in, it's so over-the-top and yet incredibly suspenseful at the same time. Perfect.

I can't say it's ever made me laugh, but agreed with everything else! I was actually exposed to that motif first through the Indiana Jones attraction in Disneyland, where it's used perfectly to score the penultimate booby trap, a dart chamber. But its original use does not disappoint. I'd rank that scene as one of my top two favorites from the film (along with the very well executed mine car chase).

[Admiral Holdo 16]

It's the best of the sequels (and my personal favorite film/score of the series), if only because it's doing its own thing instead of trying to recapture what made Raiders work.

I would not rank "not trying to recapture what made Raiders work" as being among my top reasons for enjoying a film, considering that Raiders is one of my favorite films.

I'd rank "unique approach/does-its-own-thing" as one of mine though.

[Delorean90 42]

I agree that Raiders is pretty much a perfect film, but TOD is so damn good at what IT does, that I can't discount it. It really is a hugely fun adventure film, positively dripping with atmosphere (thanks Douglass Slocombe, John Williams, Elliot Scott...).

[JoeinAR 1,949]

TOD has possibly a better score than Raiders, it's an even more beautifully shot film, one of the 3 or 4 best shot SS films, the ending is near pitch perfect. It has a great villain, it is innovative in it's visual style, it's hilariously gross, and unlike LC it's not a retread of Raiders.

tonight we watched The Darkest Hour. It's a surprisingly different alien invasion and I enjoyed it for 1.30 cents.

NOW watching the Divide another end of the world film. It's a decent into madness.

[Quintus 5,399]

TOD has possibly a better score than Raiders, it's an even more beautifully shot film, one of the 3 or 4 best shot SS films, the ending is near pitch perfect. It has a great villain, it is innovative in it's visual style, it's hilariously gross, and unlike LC it's not a retread of Raiders.

Okay, it's a great adventure movie, but now you've crossed over into hyperbolic bullshit territory. You have a hard on for Temple of Doom, you have done all your life - we get it. But c'mon nostalgia boy, reign yourself in a bit. And if you think ToD is a better looking movie than Raiders that's fine, but I personally reckon you need your eyes testing.

[Brónach 1,302]

I love Raiders and TOD (and it does look awesome to me) like everybody else but I disagree on TLC being a retread of Raiders. Crusade does its best at adding all that possibly hadn't being told in the first two, including a different vibe to both Temple and Raiders. I think the reason people say that is because of the McGuffin (it's a friggin' McGuffin and it fits with what's being told) and the Nazis (who fit with the McGuffin and the period is just begging for them).

[KK 3,307]

Right. Not to mention TLC is way better than TOD.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

No!

[KK 3,307]

TOD score = Best Score in the franchise

TOD film = 2nd worst film in the franchise (and worst in the trilogy)

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

No!

IDIOT!

[Brónach 1,302]

I'm not sure if Temple is better or not to Crusade, but there's a very, veeery big quality drop between it and Skull. So in this case, with "second worst" meaning "awesome", I don't care.

[Muad'Dib 1,802]

The Eiger Sanction (1975) - 7.5/10

Altered States (1980) - 8/10

Fire and Ice (1983) - 7/10

Baraka (1992) - 9/10

Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy (2011) - 7/10