Romão 2,274 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I was mesmerized by Blade Runner 2049. Great flick, wonderfully immersive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 hours ago, publicist said: I don't hold the original in such high esteem and found 2049 a completely worthy addition to the sci-fi genre. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I found K to be a particularly interesting character to follow. And I'm not usually a fan of Gosling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Stefancos said: Denis is very careful to preserve what Ridley did, and to not give an answer either way to Deckard's origins. Perhaps a little too faithful? Whether Deckard is a replicant wasn't what the film was about. It was merely one extra little layer Ridley has put into the movie without anyone knowing. Somehow it became this huge thing. But yeah, Villeneuve has said beforehand that he would keep it unanswered. The funny thing is, the Director's Cut of 1992 already answered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Decker being a Replicant or not is the least interesting thing about the Blade Runner Cinematic Universe©! Far more interesting, did Joi love K or not? Also a far more relevant question in the coming future, I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 The BR universe isn't going anywhere. 2049 crashed at the BO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Blade Runner crashed in 1982, remember? And then it became one of the most influential films of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I don't think 2049 has the power to make the same creative impact like the first one has. It will be what 2010 is to 2001. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Too early to tell really. As a big budget sci-fi film, i found it a lot more satisfying than Interstellar. I wouldn't mind this film having some staying power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Too early to tell really. It did nothing new and actually build on what we are already (too) very familiar with. For a movie to be able to alter the movie landscape, it has to be more groundbreaking than 2049. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Fascinating. Not "Deckard Unit". Romão 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 25 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: It did nothing new and actually build on what we are already (too) very familiar with. For a movie to be able to alter the movie landscape, it has to be more groundbreaking than 2049. Perhaps. Or perhaps it did do something new, and people havent caught up on it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Or perhaps it did do something new, and people havent caught up on it yet. In today's world where everyone is connected? Impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 There's so much content nowadays, that this does happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 First you are wondering whether Villeneuve didn't respect the original too much and now you are inclined to believe that 2049 will have an enormous influence on future moviemaking? Am I getting this right? I think Nolan will have a better chance at that. (and I'm not a Nolan fanboy)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 27 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Perhaps. Or perhaps it did do something new, and people havent caught up on it yet. Technology finally caught up with imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Technology is slowly messing with our imagination actually. Which is something of a topic in 2049. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,522 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Once and for all: Deckard is not, not, not a replicant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I agree with you. I've never saw the point of it even if Ridley did. Of course we all know why 2049 didnt make a profit, they were missing one vital ingredient, right @Alexcremers? A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 He would've helped! Or at least someone who could break through the shell of the movie, dig in, and tap into something more profound than what you just see on the screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Didn't his character die in the first film, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Didn't his character die in the first film, though? Holy crap, whoops, I wasn't paying attention to the picture Steef posted! Auto-pilot told me he was referring to Vangelis since it wouldn't make sense for Hauer to return unless there were different models. On an earlier point, I do agree that it's unfortunate all of the beautiful themes of Blade Runner tend to get sidelined by "Is Deckard a replicant?" Though one could argue that ties into one of the primary themes of the movie and novel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: Holy crap, whoops, I wasn't paying attention to the picture Steef posted! Auto-pilot told me he was referring to Vangelis since it wouldn't make sense for Hauer to return unless there were different models. The similarity is uncanny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Alexcremers said: Why? I explained that adequately in my review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 The replicants are human. That is the real twist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 28 minutes ago, publicist said: I explained that adequately in my review. I must seek this out. I', sure it is very interesting and clearly phrased! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Nick Parker said: He would've helped! Or at least someone who could break through the shell of the movie, dig in, and tap into something more profound than what you just see on the screen. One of the problems of BR 2049 are the uninteresting and rather ordinary villains. In Blade Runner, even though most have very little screen time, we could sympathise with their quest for life. It almost made Harrison Ford seem like the real villain of the movie. That particular reversible perspective is gone in BR 2049. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Stefancos said: I must seek this out. I', sure it is very interesting and clearly phrased! Only Star Trek is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 19 minutes ago, Stefancos said: I must seek this out. I', sure it is very interesting and clearly phrased! http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/19815-blade-runner-2049/&do=findComment&comment=1401496 http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/24637-what-is-the-last-film-you-watched-newer-films/&do=findComment&comment=1401583 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Ever the faithful servant! Thanks Jason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: One of the problems of BR 2049 are the uninteresting and rather ordinary villains. You know that Jared Leto () part was originally gonna be played by David Bowie? 5 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Ever the faithful servant! Thanks Jason. Yes, he did a man's job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, Stefancos said: I must seek this out. I', sure it is very interesting and clearly phrased! Obviously it isn't. I wrote a more favourable one later, probably in response to someone. But the Zimmer engine sound is still tacky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: You know that Jared Leto () part was originally gonna be played by David Bowie? Would have loved that. Well, that and better dialogue, otherwise it's no use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Just now, Alexcremers said: Would have loved that. Well, that and better dialogue, otherwise it's no use. I could be wrong but I thought I remembered reading that at least some of the lines were written around Leto's performance (the director practically had a religious orgasm from watching Leto, it's embarrassing to read), so who knows? I didn't _mind_ the more opaque baddies in this movie because of that aforementioned quality, but honestly I couldn't tell you what they were there for other being living (heh) obstacles for the goodies. Did I miss something with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 It will all be explained in BR 2069. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 11 hours ago, Stefancos said: I won't knock this film too much though, because it is at times a seriously impressive effort. And possibly the best follow up to Blade Runner there could have ever been? I like it a lot. The original film is mesmerising, certainly, and no doubt a significant feat for its time. But I've always found it hard to connect to, and thus not easy to watch the longer it goes on. As such, I find the new one more enjoyable. And I still think it's one of the best looking films out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962) Terrific! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,522 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Yes, it is, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,526 Posted July 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2019 The buttnumbathon continueth. Seven Samurai (1954) Well-assembled, engaging masterpiece. I love that it can have fun and doesn't take itself overly seriously, makes the more grave parts hit all the more. The breezy 3.5 hours just flew by. Takashi Shimura and Toshiro Mifune kill it as the old, respected warrior and the impish, roguish ball of energy, respectively. Goddamnit, Criterion, why are most of your best releases Region A only, not even sold outside the US? The Illustrious Jerry, SteveMc and John 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, Holko said: Goddamnit, Criterion, why are most of your best releases Region A only, not even sold outside the US? "Most"? All of them from Criterion are Region A! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 15 minutes ago, The Original said: "Most"? All of them from Criterion are Region A! I have a Region B Criterion Dr. Strangelove bluray in my hand right now. So that's one I know about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 18 minutes ago, Holko said: I have a Region B Criterion Dr. Strangelove bluray in my hand right now. So that's one I know about. That's an exception to the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Are region free players not a thing anymore? Criterion also has their own streaming service again, called The Criterion Channel. I imagine that’s not locked to the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Koray Savas said: Are region free players not a thing anymore? They've always been hard to find in Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 It is locked to the US - or at least it's not available here. My external player is region free, the legal software I got with it is not, you can change region 5 times or something. Also, crosscontinental shipping and customs fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Sorry, that’s a bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Yo-ho-ho, and a bottle of RAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Just make your own movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 58 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: Are region free players not a thing anymore? The strict Blu-ray DRM has basically put a stop to them. There are hardware mods, but you always risk losing the region freeness when you do a firmware upgrade. Even more annoying is that region free DVD players used to be everywhere - if they were not region free right from the start, they probably had some simple remote code to unlock them. But most Blu players aren't unlockable for DVD playback, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 I read somewhere DVD was standardised with relatively very weak encryption, both on the disc (easily rippable) and in the player's software (region locking), so weak that consistent punishment/enforcement wasn't going to be sustainable, so everyone eventually just gave up trying to keep users from doing what they were always going to do. Bluray is more secure from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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