Jim Ware 526 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 I'll be listening to it tomorrow - today is Beltrami day with Scream and Mimic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Really, i'm not reading this thread anymore. I'll download the score when i can (since my legit copy is 500 km away from me) and listen to it, and cherish it on my own...since it seems no body cares.I dont care for reviews anymore, i just want to experience it without being biased by other people's (unexistant) opinions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 What are you talking about? It's not that nobody cares, it's simply that nobody has received it yet! I'll tell you all about it when my copy arrives, but it hasn't yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Still no shipping notice.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share Posted October 29, 2011 Calm down it's just music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTR1701 59 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Just stopped by Varese in Studio City and picked up my copy. Haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Ordered my copy this past Wednesday; hasn't shipped yet, as far as I can tell.I'm glad it didn't sell out before I could buy a copy, but I'm a little surprised. For all intents and purposes, it's an unreleased score from right smack-dab in the middle of Williams' golden era. I would've figured it'd go pretty quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 Do my eyes deceive me? Is that... Bryant? .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Ordered my copy this past Wednesday; hasn't shipped yet, as far as I can tell.I'm glad it didn't sell out before I could buy a copy, but I'm a little surprised. For all intents and purposes, it's an unreleased score from right smack-dab in the middle of Williams' golden era. I would've figured it'd go pretty quickly.You mean like Family Plot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Well it sure as hell isn't shipping out very quickly, although I did finally receive confirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 So far it sounds a bit cooler with Williams conducting the cues (as in all scores that have been re-recorded by others). Williams has always a faster, edgier tempo in the action cuesouch Track 17 and 18 sound somewhat bootleg qualityOverall it's a nice thing to have but definitely not a big revelation compared to the re-recording Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 So no real need to get this in 2011 then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Not if you have other priorities and the re-recording already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 This doesn't strike me as a must-have score, actually. The march is great, yes, but I already have that (on the Japanese filmworks album). I am wondering whether I should get it at all.So far I haven't read any glowing reviews here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I'm the first one to even talk about it. Others haven't listened to it yet apparently. Only the tracks that have fast action music sound more distinctive due to Williams conducting. It's a bit like comparing the Black Sunday original tracks to those on the Silva screen suiteOne thing is that Track 17 and 18 do have horrible sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I'm the first one to even talk about it. Others haven't listened to it yet apparently. Only the tracks that have fast action music sound more distinctive due to Williams conducting. It's a bit like comparing the Black Sunday original tracks to those on the Silva screen suiteOne thing is that Track 17 and 18 do have horrible soundBut did you listen to the album straight through? Is the album worth having? Is the music actually good, great, fantastic?Oh well, I just ordered it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I'll rank my Williams scores from 1970-Star Wars1-Jaws2-Family Plot3-Towering Inferno4-Poseidon Adventure5-The Cowboys6-Black Sunday7-Midway8-eiger Sanction9-Earthquake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Almost embarassed to admit this, but I never heard nos. 3 and 4 from your list.No shipping notice yet btw.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Well I guess Midway has to be one the least cared about JW scores of all times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Its better then most of those 60s comedies, especially the 2 marches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Well I guess Midway has to be one the least cared about JW scores of all timesAgain, most people simply haven't received their copies yet. I haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTR1701 59 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I gave my copy a listen last night and it was a perfectly fine score. Is it comparable to the likes of Empire or Raiders? No. But it was enough to keep me engaged and I enjoyed the music and am happy I have it in my library.It's certainly light years better than the dreck that currently passes for 90% of the soundtracks these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 It's certainly light years better than the dreck that currently passes for 90% of the soundtracks these days.That's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 , not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 , not even close.So what are you saying? That Midway is dreck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Well, it finally shipped.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Mine arrived today.Midway virgin here, starting track 1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I've listened twice through and read the booklet. While definitely not in the same league as that other WWII score that just got released, it's not bad.Tracks 17 and 18 do indeed have a noticeable drop in sound quality.At only 37 minutes it feels like it's missing something. This is covered in the liner notes where it talks about the film's spare scoring:"Williams, as composer, instinctively knew that his job was to get out of Sensurround's way."What's there is good but there just isn't a lot of meat to sink your teeth into.The Men of the Yorktown theme is what's going to stick with you, and not only or even particularly the march.With some rather nice variations throughout the score, it's a warm feel-good theme and yields a respectful smile when it comes up.There's nothing here that's going to blow you away. Don't spend your last discretionary penny on it.But it's nice to have if you can swing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I agree the Men of the Yorktown theme statements through the score are the highlightsThe action cue Crash Landing is pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Well I guess Midway has to be one the least cared about JW scores of all timesAgain, most people simply haven't received their copies yet. I haven't.I think it's more because a decent rerecording already exists. I still haven't even ordered mine yet - I'm planning on waiting to see what other titles are released before the year is over, and hopefully having the money afterwards to purchase Midway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 , not even close.So what are you saying? That Midway is dreck?It's one of my least favorite Williams scores. Quite boring aside from the march, and even that feels like it's about to go somewhere but then falls flat. Despite all that though, I hate it when people claim anything written by Williams is instantly better than everything else out there. It's ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTR1701 59 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 , not even close.So what are you saying? That Midway is dreck?It's one of my least favorite Williams scores. Quite boring aside from the march, and even that feels like it's about to go somewhere but then falls flat. Despite all that though, I hate it when people claim anything written by Williams is instantly better than everything else out there. It's ignorant.(1) I didn't claim that *anything* written by Williams is better. Just this score.(2) I didn't claim it was better than everything else out there. Just 90% of what's currently out there.(3) It's my aesthetic opinion of what I personally like and do not like. It's no more or less ignorant than yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,244 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 (4) I agree with BTR1701 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 , not even close.So what are you saying? That Midway is dreck?It's one of my least favorite Williams scores. Quite boring aside from the march, and even that feels like it's about to go somewhere but then falls flat. Despite all that though, I hate it when people claim anything written by Williams is instantly better than everything else out there. It's ignorant.Not everything out there! 90% of what's out there!It's certainly light years better than the dreck that currently passes for 90% of the soundtracks these days.And that's a pretty fair assessment, considering all the dreck out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 Hyperbole.You guys take things too literal. Should I assume that 90% statistic is exact? If I pick 10 random scores for you, Midway is going to be better than 9 of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I ordered mine the day it was announced. I still haven't had a shipping confirmation. Anyone else in this position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTR1701 59 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Hyperbole.You guys take things too literal. Should I assume that 90% statistic is exact? If I pick 10 random scores for you, Midway is going to be better than 9 of them?Yeah, pretty much. If you take the last 10 major releases for the sort of films that I like, only Super 8 was worth listening to. The rest-- from the kind of films that used to generate complex scores with rousing and memorable themes, films like Thor, Spider Man, etc.-- all they consist of are endless arpeggiated string ostinatos over electronic drums, and the 'themes' (such as they are) mostly consist of long sustained chords in the brass. Compare this year's X-Men movie to Superman (both superhero films in the same genre) and the difference in scores is striking. Everything from musical complexity to good old hummable themes is lacking in in the former and on grand display in the latter.You may like that sort of thing, but for me, it's dreck, and it's pretty much de riguer these days. And no, not liking the same things you do does not make me ignorant. Your aesthetic tastes are not an objective benchmark by which everyone else is judged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 Everything I say is a fact. You all must abide by my rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 ok got my c.d. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 my brother has told me the CD is waiting for me...3 million years away from home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avalanche 0 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I ordered mine the day it was announced. I still haven't had a shipping confirmation. Anyone else in this position?I ordered a few days after the announcement, but no shipping notice. Varese sent me a reply about being busy, which I can understand, but it's been a few weeks now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I ordered mine the day it was announced. I still haven't had a shipping confirmation. Anyone else in this position?I ordered a few days after the announcement, but no shipping notice. Varese sent me a reply about being busy, which I can understand, but it's been a few weeks now.Has your credit card been charged yet?my brother has told me the CD is waiting for me...3 million years away from home He may be on to something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avalanche 0 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Has your credit card been charged yet?No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avalanche 0 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 It's finally on it's way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 The top of the Jewel case was cracked and I had to replace it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Shipping notice finally! Woohoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I'm midway through Midway! So far so good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I got my shipping notice too.... 2 days ago. Jesus. I think I bought at least 8 JW albums this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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