#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 It's 2012, this year the film will celebrate it's 30th anniversary.While having 3 CD releases, the complete score has never been released apart from arguably the Laserdisc iso score.There's a lot of talk about Hook being released. But I think this score should finally get a utterly complete FSM/Intrada/La La Land style release. Meaning the complete score AND the original 1982 CD remastered, plus the alternate cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Yes. Please. Please. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Absolutely. This and JAWS please. Anything else is a secondary objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 Why is it that the some of the most important Spielberg/Williams scores like Jaws, E.T., Close Encounters still need definitive releases, even though they have been expanded while stuff like 1941gets a perfect release just like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Because La-La Land was able to do the entire 1941 release without involving Spielberg or Williams' people at all. Same with Intrada and Amazing Stories.Williams was directly involved in the Jaws, CE3K, both ET, and Indy expansions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 Ok the casual soundtrack buyers have had 3 releases of E.T. marketed at them. Now can the hardcore completists get their fix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Does JW ever have contractual rights? I keep hearing how he nixed SUGARLAND EXPRESS, but wouldn't it be down to the rights holders (assuming he doesn't own the music rights)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 I assume Universal owns the right. And If JW does not want it released, who are they to say no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Holdo 16 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 It's probably also because 1941 isn't as popular (film or score) as Jaws, Indy, etc....well, it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 We have the all the E.T, releases we need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 244 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Because La-La Land was able to do the entire 1941 release without involving Spielberg or Williams' people at all. Same with Intrada and Amazing Stories.Williams was directly involved in the Jaws, CE3K, both ET, and Indy expansionsI think Spielberg was involved with Amazing Stories. If I remember correctly Doug Fake once mentioned it that the booklets were approved by Spielberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 We have the all the E.T, releases we need Most definitely, yes. I only listen to the original MCA album, anyway, even though I also own the anniversary edition as part of my massive E.T. DVD gift box set that was released a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackR 95 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Does JW ever have contractual rights? I keep hearing how he nixed SUGARLAND EXPRESS, but wouldn't it be down to the rights holders (assuming he doesn't own the music rights)?Technically, John Williams may have no legal/contractual say, but I'd assume the rights holders would prefer to not upset John Williams or go against his wishes over few thousand copies of a score that would be marketed to our niche market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 If they decide to do it I hope they include remaster of the original OST because E.T. and Me has a great string statement of the friendship theme that isn't in the actual score, at least that I'm aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 If they decide to do it I hope they include remaster of the original OST because E.T. and Me has a great string statement of the friendship theme that isn't in the actual score, at least that I'm aware of.Well if the OST is all different to the actual score it should go in the release as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 If they decide to do it I hope they include remaster of the original OST because E.T. and Me has a great string statement of the friendship theme that isn't in the actual score, at least that I'm aware of.That piece itself is a gorgeous reworking of that particular thematic idea. I was totally levelled when I first heard it. Even though Williams might claim otherwise his quite recent revision of the piece under the title "Stargazers" is this very same piece of music with additional harp and orchestral passages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharpdevenport 4 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I remember somebody saying Williams has cloud and you would want to stay on his side and not possibly offend him and his pull with the studios.But I'm thinking: So what? What studios? He does damn near nothing but Speilberg/Lucas films, except that one film which -- as I recall -- Speilberg was going to do, but didn't, but Johnny still scored. Big honkin' deal. Let him pul his weight, and let the studios say: When was the last time you worked with one of our directors or scored one of our films?So what if he won't cooperate with notes of crap? The vast majority of limited edition scores have had no cooperation from the living composers. We'll live. If he doesn't won the rights, let him worry about dry cleaning his black turtle necks He'll get over it.Jamie Horner, that goes for you, too -- we want "Young Guns", damnit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 It's simple. If JW for some reason does not want this release, Spielberg would probably go along with that. Why would any studio wanna piss of Spielberg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharpdevenport 4 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 'cause he doesn't own the rights either. And if he cared, he'd start his own/would have sarted his own. Not like he doesn't have the money. Plus, when it comes down to it, it likely doesn't bother him in regards to score CD's.And he's getting up there in years now, not too many films ahead him -- would he start a pointless tussle over nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 Please don't be all prissy and bitchy because a composer allegedly does not want a certain score released.He certainly has the right to do that. Williams is very critical of his own work. That's why he withdrew his symphony from circulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackR 95 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Exactly. This isn't some huge seller we're talking about. I mean, our niche is just that...a niche. Even for a blockbuster like E.T., how many people will actually pay for a proper expansion outside our relatively small group? I think Heaven for LLL, Intrada, FSM, Varese, etc and that they do cater to us, but I just don't see a studio even caring to deal with the headache of a conflict. Williams says, "Hey, I'd rather Sugarland Express not be released," then I'd bet they don't release it. Period.LFL/Sony still perplex me with Star Wars though. They were willing to allow some real work with the OT for the Anthology and 1997 sets, but then it dried up after the Ep1 Ultimate Edition fiasco. I also believe that was just a misunderstanding. I think they legitimately thought we wanted the music as they presented it in the set. Then they felt all they got was a slap in the face back from us. The concept of presenting a score like "our" labels do was likely foreign to them at the time.Regardless, even if one of our labels CAN'T release this stuff, if the label is willing to allow it out the door (like Star Wars), what POSSIBLE harm could come from letting Mike Matessino or someone like him put it together. I'd buy it from Sony or LFL directly or wherever if I knew someone like him put it together and had pretty much full control of it.Oh well... maybe someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Would whoever does a complete release, be able to licence all the "Quiet Man" stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 all the "Quiet Man" stuff?It's only in one short cue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Well, here's what is going on this year.- E.T. turns 30 (Jesus)- E.T. gets a new line of merchandise (see: NECA)- E.T. is released on Blu-rayWill a new soundtrack be issued? God, I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 It's certainly a good time for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 all the "Quiet Man" stuff?It's only in one short cueAgreed, but I still consider it part of the score (along with the older brother singing "Accidents Will Happen"!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Nothin' but health shitAnd ADD to your collectionBut they keep you hangin' on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,178 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I have all three CD releases. If they get Bruce Botnick to do a remaster, I'll buy the result regardless of whether it contains any missing cues or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 we have all that we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 Don't be a pacifist Joe, this is E.T.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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