Hlao-roo 389 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Any examples? Not including scenes in which the music was simply tracked in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 The scene in E.T. where the mom is looking around Elliot's room, and the camera pans over E.T. hiding with the stuffed animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Lets seeThe whole bicycle chase and departure from E.T. I feel the emotions in this sequence would have been much more genuine without all this bombastic and manipulating musicStar Wars should not have any music at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Some of the opening scenes from War Horse."The Charge" scene from War Horse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Some of the opening scenes from War Horse.No ,that would have required a properly mixed score that doesn't sound like coming out of TV speakers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 The first scene with Darth Vader and the Imperial fleet in The Empire Strikes Back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 All of Heartbeeps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 The prequels in general have way too much music. The conversation scenes in particular would have benefited from less music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Anthony Hopkins' courtroom speech in Amistad. The music just feels way too sentimental and obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I like the mixture of serious answers and extreme sarcasm. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 The prequels in general have way too much music. The conversation scenes in particular would have benefited from less music.I don't know, Williams's music is the only thing that gets me through some of those scenes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingPin 201 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Prisoner of Azkaban: When Harry is talking to Professor Lupin in the woods just before he releases Hedwig and the seasons change. Even though I like the clarinet solo of the Window to the Past theme on the soundtrack, I think that in the actual film, that portion of the scene would work better without music. The characters are simply walking and talking, and I feel like the acting and screenwriting conveyed enough emotion to get the point across without the necessity of music. I'd have started the music where Hedwig's Theme enters in that scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Anthony Hopkins' courtroom speech in Amistad. The music just feels way too sentimental and obvious.Yes this is one of the movies where the courtroom scenes might have benefitted from less score. The constant music in the background is gilding the lily a bit too much. A more judicious use of music and reserving it for key moments might have worked better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,244 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Lets seeThe whole bicycle chase and departure from E.T. I feel the emotions in this sequence would have been much more genuine without all this bombastic and manipulating musicStar Wars should not have any music at allAgreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,989 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 The scene in A.I. when Monica and Henry discuss whether to keep David. That's the first one that comes to mind.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 The prequels in general have way too much music. The conversation scenes in particular would have benefited from less music.I was about to say the same thing.To which I would have added:I don't know, Williams's music is the only thing that gets me through some of those scenes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,989 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 The thing about the prequels is that they would be a lot worse without it, even if it doesnt work. Strange but true.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Williams knew he had to distract the audience from the bad acting and dialogue. You might not have noticed, but your brain did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 It's a miracle Williams drew as much inspiration from these wretched efforts as he did, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 It's a miracle Williams drew as much inspiration from these wretched efforts as he did, really.He must have asked Jerry Goldsmith for advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 "Jerry, I can't remember the last objectionable film I scored. What do I do?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozmo 13 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 The whole bicycle chase and departure from E.T. I feel the emotions in this sequence would have been much more genuine without all this bombastic and manipulating music But surely that would have denied us 15 minutes of the greatest music JW ever composed!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 "Jerry, I can't remember the last objectionable film I scored. What do I do?"Be grouchy, light yourself a strong Camel and then imagine how you work your ass of for decades and still are the bridesmaid to another, wildly more successful composer who gets all fancy prices and awards instead of you. Then clench your teeth together and write back in anger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I cried because Williams told me that i should cry, not because of my own emotions. It's like I was violated.The whole bicycle chase and departure from E.T. I feel the emotions in this sequence would have been much more genuine without all this bombastic and manipulating music But surely that would have denied us 15 minutes of the greatest music JW ever composed!?I cried because Williams told me that i should cry, not because of my own emotions. It's like I was violated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 "Jerry, I can't remember the last objectionable film I scored. What do I do?"<------- Very likely Johnny asked Jerry in here and Jerry answered "You're the more big shot, why should you asked me?" and promptly turns away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 "Jerry, I can't remember the last objectionable film I scored. What do I do?""Grow a ponytail, dude"That's definitely one thing I never would like to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozmo 13 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I cried because Williams told me that i should cry, not because of my own emotions. It's like I was violated.The whole bicycle chase and departure from E.T. I feel the emotions in this sequence would have been much more genuine without all this bombastic and manipulating music But surely that would have denied us 15 minutes of the greatest music JW ever composed!?I cried because Williams told me that i should cry, not because of my own emotions. It's like I was violated.But wasn't that exactly Spielberg's/Williams's intention? Without that music (which we all know eventually proceeded the very editing of the final scenes), it would just have been a bunch of kids seeing off a rubbery puppet, and fallen flat on it's arse! That's the magic of movies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 The whole bicycle chase and departure from E.T. I feel the emotions in this sequence would have been much more genuine without all this bombastic and manipulating music But surely that would have denied us 15 minutes of the greatest music JW ever composed!?He was joking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozmo 13 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 The whole bicycle chase and departure from E.T. I feel the emotions in this sequence would have been much more genuine without all this bombastic and manipulating music But surely that would have denied us 15 minutes of the greatest music JW ever composed!?He was jokingOh right... (climbs down from high horse) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Anthony Hopkins' courtroom speech in Amistad. The music just feels way too sentimental and obvious.Agreed. I think it should have music of some sort, but more toned down, not those broad Americana things. Just hammers in the point too obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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