Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Where did you guys order? All directly at GNP? Do we know when retaielrs get this in stock?I've ordered mine at MM and am moderately impatient since my Hook order is still pending at SAE. I want *something* soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Directly from GNP. But it's still pending for the third day. Same with my Alien order from Intrada.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 I'm listening to it now - I'm up to track 10 only so far, but the sound quality is amazing! You can hear room noises and everything just sounds super crisp and clear. Seems like a perfect release!How awesome is Search for the Borg?Trent, I like the updated cover more than the other. The planet looked like Tatooine or something Star Warsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Trent, I like the updated cover more than the other. The planet looked like Tatooine or something Star Warsy.Thanks. Where did you guys order? All directly at GNP? Do we know when retaielrs get this in stock?I ordered mine directly from GNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Got mine. Listened straight through. This is an exceptional release. Sound quality is startling. This has to be one of the best unexpected surprises in recent memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Mine is supposed to arrive tomorrow, as well as The Black Cauldron. It'll be a great day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Holdo 16 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Seems amazon has it: http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Contact-Limited-Complete/dp/B007QZQ8TO/ref=sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1333748471&sr=1-3This wasn't on my immediate purchase list, so I can deal with an extended wait for that kind of savings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Listening to this right now for the first time.Sound quality is fabulous, really fabulous.I had not actually listened to this score for a few years. The main theme really gave me goosebumps just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 The main theme is one of my favourites from Jerry. I think it s fantastic way to open the film and score as well, the significance of the theme becoming gradually clearer since much of the score is quite dark and eerie and action oriented. Goldsmith is saying "This is what this film is actually all about!". And then he brings it to a wonderful conclusion in the finale cues. Magnificent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 He doing basically what he tried to do with Alien.Jonathan Frakes expected that Jerry would write something dark and ominous to signify the threat of the Borg in the main title. Jerry went another way, and it really works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 It is again a great example of how the composer finds what is the essence of the film and portrays that musically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 The collaboration between father and son is awesome. Joel kept the same orchestrations for his music and if no one knew that the score was by two composers because sometimes it can be hard to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 He did a good job in some parts, emulating his father's style. But in the action material, you really can hear a different composer is doing it.The thematic basis is very good for a score that was done in 3 weeks. Goldsmith resists the urge of lifting entire sections from his previous two Trek scores but instead takes a single theme from Trek 5, that was not really associated with a specific character and uses it in this score as a sort of binding agent. The fact that most of the time the orchestration and instrumentation of his "quest" theme here is different then it was in the Final Frontier means it doesn't feel like it's something he just tacked on. It's very much part of the fabric of this score. (Goldsmith has always been a master in the way he integrates themes with the rest of his musical material)His two Borg themes, one often in pounding percussion of droning synth, the other, very much an extension of the first Borg theme often plays in powerful brass statements.I love the way Goldsmith employs this second Borg theme for the scene were the escape pods launch. The theme plays triumphantly...like the Borg are winning.The action material is surprisingly varied for a score that was written on the run. (unlike Insurrection). The action starts fantastically with Red Alert. Temporal Wake is a fantastic cue, and i love the way the Dish builds from a slow, creeping pace to a manic frenzy.Jerry was very kind in handing Joel the action climax, but he keeps the emotional climax, First Contact for himself. His FC theme is finally in full force here. Hints of his Vulcan music can be heard, but only subtly.It really is an excellent score. Not ground breaking maybe. But really solid, but a splendid theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Wow I had no idea they wrote this score in 3 weeks! All the more impressive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 I think The Ghost and the Darkness ran over schedule, so Goldsmith was really pressed for time. That is why he brought in his son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Well father and son made a pretty darn good pairing in this one. You are right that Joel's action music does have a slightly different feel than his father's but he does integrate his stylings and themes very well. And as you mentioned Jerry generously (pressed for time most likely) gave the action finale to Joel who handled it quite rousingly. The emotional climax is pure Goldsmith, his theme almost hymn like and beatific at the end.And since I heard this score before ST V the Quest theme has always been attached to this film and score in my mind. Hearing it later in ST V was a great and happy surprise, the music continuity being very gratifying in the very status quo world of ST where every film/episode is a new adventure. And the return of the Klingon theme is always a welcome sound to my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 So far I'd been waiting to get this one, but for $15.81 at Amazon, I could only wait this far. No farther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 So far I'd been waiting to get this one, but for $15.81 at Amazon, I could only wait this far. No farther.If people are waiting to order it, they really shouldn't. We don't know what the limit size for this score is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 You mean the quantity? It's 10 000 units.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 You mean the quantity? It's 10 000 units.KarolI guess I didn't notice that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Awesome. Great edition size. Plenty of time for everyone who wants one to snag it.I'm so grateful Paramount is ensuring we get all these scores, and that they're done properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,118 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Want to save a couple bucks? It is now on Amazon for $15 and some change.http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Contact-Limited-Complete/dp/B007QZQ8TOOrdered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,683 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I'm annoyingly on the fence about this, because I bought the digital album last year, but I've managed to preview this set, and the additional music is pretty good.And having looked that the cover a few more times, especially in comparison to the custom ones posted here; it does indeed suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I just noticed something.In the film, there is no score at all during the scenes that play on earth, apart from the First Contact scene. I wonder if this was a deliberate decision made by the film makers. (Jerry did score a brief moment for when Cochrane was chased, at the end of Fully Functional, but it was cut out of the film) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 "The Phoenix" was based on Earth, in the missile silo, when data "safely traverses the distance".There is also music for when Zefram Cochrane is running because he doesn't want to be a statue, and Riker phasers him.That's off the top of my head. But yes, much of the scoring is in space, sicne that is where the Borg are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 There is also music for when Zefram Cochrane is running because he doesn't want to be a statue, and Riker phasers him.That cue was not used in the film, so it's only The Phoenix.If you compare that to the fact that the scenes on The Enterprise were scored almost wall-to wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 It was partially used. Second half was tracked out, if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 No the whole part was edited out. the chase sequence runs without music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Want to save a couple bucks? It is now on Amazon for $15 and some change.http://www.amazon.co...e/dp/B007QZQ8TOOrdered!Things aren't as bright as they seem!I didn't plan to post but I wanted to let you guys know that Amazon do not have any stock yet, and won't until I get them to agree to set the price the same as everyone else. I want everyone to get their CDs quick as poss and figured this is something you would appreciate knowing.MelanieSource: http://filmscoremont...?threadID=88014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,683 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Standing up to Amazon... I like that It's £15 on Amazon UK too, but with a release date of the end of April, and from 'Traditions Alive LLC' (who the hell are they?).I think I'm gonna order this, but not sure from whom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 The pricing issue with Amazon is not at all about GNP's profit. Amazon demand a larger discount than anybody else so they can price lower in the general marketplace. My problem this week is that letting Amazon sell at 15.83 seems like a big middle finger to everyone who ordered direct from me, to Intrada and SAE and the like. I asked them nicely to go with 19.98 for a while and the only answer I get is that they will set their own price. I feel differently about items that will be freely available for the long term. I hope this makes sense.Same source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Well isn't that free enterprise? GNP would charge Amazon the same price as any other reseller, but if Amazon wants to sell them at a loss, that's their business.Yes, it's a slap in the face to those of us who bought directly from GNP in the first place, but the same thing happens when you buy something on sale from Newegg or Woot that is still full price at the MFR's website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Amazon's strategy has always been to cater to the customer rather then to the demands of studio's, label's, unobliging companies or fenders.I can't fault them for selling something for less then the competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I wouldn't order any CDs released by the labels IE: Intrada, FSM and LLL from Amazon. However, other stuff I would order as Steef's right that a lot of times they can be much cheaper than anywhere else.For CD's though I'd rather order directly from the label or from Peter (Movie Music). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Got shipping notice. Good, I look forward to it. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Mine shipped on Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 My order, #588, finally shipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 So... Do I need to keep any OST tracks apart from the songs? Also, why was so much Star Trek material expanded in 2012? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Bought this LAST year. Better late than never. Can't answer your ?. Sorry. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 3 hours ago, bollemanneke said: So... Do I need to keep any OST tracks apart from the songs? Also, why was so much Star Trek material expanded in 2012? Because Star Trek Into Darkness was about to be released in 2013 probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 I'm sure that was why... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Doubt that one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,514 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 13 hours ago, bollemanneke said: So... Do I need to keep any OST tracks apart from the songs? That depends. Do you like Roy Orbison, and Steppinwolf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: That depends. Do you like Roy Orbison, and Steppinwolf? Do you like gladiator movies? 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Did SOB change his screen name?. I love the old one! Change it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryonDavis 172 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 4/3/2012 at 5:22 AM, #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal said: Nemesis is owned by Varese, not GNP OOps my bad, did not notice this was a post from 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schilkeman 961 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 Amazingly, still available. Gonna buy this as soon as I can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 Well sure it’s still around. They had the license to make 10,000 copies. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,598 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 10 hours ago, Schilkeman said: Amazingly, still available. Gonna buy this as soon as I can Make sure to get Star Trek: Insurrection at the same time. That score plays better in complete form than this one does! Yavar Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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