A24 4,331 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 A different list ... (It's not really about the ones that are in the list but rather about the ones that didn't make it) 1. Empire Of The Sun (unique in his oeuvre and the only Spielberg I have on Blu-ray) 2 Schindler's List (even though I hate the "I could have done more" scene like there's no tomorrow) 3. The Color Purple 4. Jaws 5. Catch Me If You Can 6. E.T. 7. Duel 8. Close Encounters 9. Raiders Of The Lost Ark 10. Saving Private Ryan Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Good list! I like the Color Purple love. In my opinion, he's only made three truly, reprehensibly terrible movies: The Terminal, Hook, and Always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: Good list! I like the Color Purple love. In my opinion, he's only made three truly, reprehensibly terrible movies: The Terminal, Hook, and Always. Yep! And let me put them in a top 3: 1. Always 2. Hook 3. The Terminal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 But there will at least be a Ridley Scott feature length commentary, right? Not only does he offer great depth and insight into his processes, he has a wonderful ASMR voice. DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,710 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 None of Spielberg's movies, including those three, are "reprehensibly terrible". That's hyperbole. He's too skilled a filmmaker to make a terrible movie. Spielberg at his worst is worse than terrible. He's average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Doesn't it depend on the script? He usually doesn't write those anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: None of Spielberg's movies, including those three, are "reprehensibly terrible". That's hyperbole. He's too skilled a filmmaker to make a terrible movie. Spielberg at his worst is worse than terrible. He's average. Hyperbole is what the internet should be called Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Alien Covenant makes only $36 million on opening weekend. Very disappointing, considering it's a far superior movie to Independence Day: Remembrance which opened at $41 million last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Did Independence Day: Resurgence have an R rating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 I think Prometheus did and that opened at $51 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,513 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 FWIW: 1/ CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND (a film so great, that its title needs to be spelled out, in full!) 2/ 1941 3/ EMPIRE OF THE SUN 4/ MINORITY REPORT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Nick1066 said: None of Spielberg's movies, including those three, are "reprehensibly terrible". That's hyperbole. He's too skilled a filmmaker to make a terrible movie. Spielberg at his worst is worse than terrible. He's average. Depends on how you view movies. A movie or a piece of music that is skillfully made can still be grating. For instance, Prometheus is professionally made but there were several times that I wanted to throw something at the screen. I never give points to a $100.000.000 movie merely because there is some skill involved. I rather see that money spend on something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Comparing Tintin to Prometheus??? Only on JWfan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,710 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Only on JWfan! After Thor was going on about how universally loved Covenant was over at FSM (untrue as it turns out), I went over there and browsed a bit. Man, they really don't like this place. DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Because of Steef? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,513 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: I never give points to a $100.000.000 movie Alex, when did any movie cost $100? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: Because of Steef? Some people there dont like me. The owner of Lalaland included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Has that 'My Little Pony' fanboy already forgiven you? My Little Pony! What a strange place it must be! On the other hand, we have Drax! Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Alexcremers said: 1. Always 2. Hook 3. The Terminal 1. and 3. are mush (with core ideas gone wrong) but they are basically harmless sunday afternoon viewings. 'Hook' is a bit worse (because it's loud, overlong and mawkish at the same time). But reflecting on it, i find a 'political' movie like BOS worse because it thinks it is about something, preferably something 'important' (it's not) - that's a pretension 'Always' at least never exhibits in any way, shape or form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 I have no idea, have your enemies forgiven you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, publicist said: 1. and 3. are mush (with core ideas gone wrong) but they are basically harmless sunday afternoon viewings. 'Hook' is a bit worse (because it's loud, overlong and mawkish at the same time). But reflecting on it, i find a 'political' movie like BOS worse because it thinks it is about something, preferably something 'important' (it's not) - that's a pretension 'Always' at least never exhibits in any way, shape or form. Yeah, but doesn't have Hook at least have a nicely over-the-top hokey performance by Dustin Hoffman? What is BOS? I don't want to look it up. Got it! Bridge Of Spies! Of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Bridge of Spies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,710 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Wait, what's this? What's the My Little Pony story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 It wasnt my fault! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 FSM forum is nothing but annoying old curmudgeons who overrate mediocre scores and whinge about the times leaving them behind. Its like a film score fan retirement community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 14 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: Wait, what's this? What's the My Little Pony Story? It all started with one guy (which we shall call "Basil") obsessed with getting a complete release of the My Little Pony score: Then, Stiff being Stiff, things soon turned dirty (as you'll see if you read the posts following the one I linked to), which then led to this: JWFAN'S Finest Hour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 It wasnt my fault! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,710 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: JWFAN'S Finest Hour! THAT. IS. FUCK*NG GOLD. "The Specimen"...OMFG. I literally laughed out loud. Genius. Pure, unadulterated genius. Best threads ever. Thanks BB. Haven't laughed like that in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 I have provoked! Had to defend myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Always is a good film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Its Spielbergs best, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,710 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, Stefancos said: I have provoked! Had to defend myself! Next time, remember that friendship is magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Dont tempt me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 I've never claimed it was his best film, as far as I remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 But you will, oneday soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Nonsense. My opinion on Spielberg films has...always been very correct. His best work is obviously Jaws, E.T., Raiders and the like, his modern flicks are a lot of boring overproduced Oscar bait and Always is unfairly lambasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 What is Ridley Scott's 'Always'? What's his 'A. I.'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 I really don't know. Scott's work is so bland outside of a few films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, publicist said: What is Ridley Scott's 'Always'? Someone To Watch Over Me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 14 minutes ago, publicist said: What is Ridley Scott's 'Always'? What's his 'A. I.'? Hook: Robin Hood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 A Good Year is his 'The Terminal'. 'Black Hawk Down' his 'SPR' (or its first half hour). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 The point is, neither one of them make very good movies anymore and their best work was done in the 70s and 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Spielberg has, does, and always will make Scott look like an amateur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,710 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Well the question is, not who has the worst film, but is Ridley Scott's best film better than Spielberg's best film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 They are even on truly 'best' films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 I swear I've had an identical Scott vs. Spielberg debate over drinks at a bar before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 8,000 Posted May 21, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2017 I agree that this movie makes me appreciate Prometheus more (even if only marginally). Karol crumbs, DarthDementous and Disco Stu 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Jeff Bond is becoming hysterical over the prominance of credit attribution between Goldsmith and Kurzel and how "idiots all over the world" will think the latter wrote the 1979 Alien music because his credit appears at the beginning and Jerry's at the very end. Sure I get what he's pointing at, but is it really a big deal to get upset about? Are general audiences "idiots" for being misled over a simple credit placement? Jeff should calm down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 This is a pretty good review. Explores more artwork that influenced the film and Scott's vision (both photographically and thematically): http://www.avclub.com/review/covenant-returns-alien-its-horror-roots-255201 I wasn't aware of the artwork that inspired the look of the Engineer city, so that's cool to see. The review also points out what I've come to realise over the past week: the least interesting aspects of this film involve the adult Xenomorph. It's obvious Ridley wasn't interested in it either; the coherency of his direction nosedives in the third act. He's clearly more interested in exploring the dynamic between Walter & David and it shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 15 hours ago, crumbs said: Well, I'd say what I really feel, but Jason might not appreciate the profanity on a family-friendly forum. IIRC they made an idiotic marketing decision with Prometheus on BD; they only included CDL's 3 hour documentary on the 3D Bluray release. Who even has a 3D TV? And nobody in their right mind is paying extra to get a useless 3D disc of Prometheus just to acquire the documentary. So clearly the sales tanked and the same genius who made that decision probably asked why they should bother funding another documentary for Covenant, given the last one made no difference to sales. Hey I bought the 3D blu for that doc! I just waited until it was on sale 11 hours ago, Disco Stu said: FSM forum is nothing but annoying old curmudgeons who overrate mediocre scores and whinge about the times leaving them behind. Its like a film score fan retirement community. Yep, a bunch of old nerds with nothing better to do with their time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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