Faleel 5,345 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 THEMES/MOTIF'S:Main Theme/Theme of the HobbitsAn upbeat march for the Hobbits, first appears in the Main Title at 0:11The One Ring ThemeAn 11 note ascending theme that first appears at 0:21 in the Main Title and occurs whenever someone attempts to take or put on the RingMordor/Ringwraith ThemeA two note melody with a 5 or 6 note rhythm, first appears in the Main Title at 0:38 (Rhythm)Isengard/Orc ThemeA sort of grueling march, first appears in the Main Title at 1:14.Heroes Vs. Orcs ThemeA 5 note theme, first appears in Battle in the Mines at 1:01.Gandalf/Lothlorien ThemeA theme that seems to represent Gandalf, but also Lothlorien, first appears in Mines of Moria at 1:35.Gollum's ThemeA playful melody that first appears at 3:26 of the Main Title.Horn Call MotifThroughout the film there are numerous Horns blown, and they all use the same two notes, this only appears in the score as presented on CD twice (The Main Title at 1:15, and Helms Deep) .Unknown MotifA 6 note arpeggio-ish motif, usually on glockenspiel like percussion first heard at 3:12 of the Main Title. Unreleased Music Gandalf rides to Isengard (0:34) Bree/The Prancing Pony (source music) (1:41) The Man in the Moon (song) (1:08) Nazgul attacks Merry (in the middle of the song so its part of the length listed above) Frodo Stabbed (1:53) Legolas's arrival (0:42) Frodo Awaking in Rivendell (0:29) Gandalf telling Frodo of Saruman's Treachery (0:30) Bilbo's Poem (Rivendell source cue) (0:31) Bilbo tries to take the Ring (0:15) Frodo volunteers to go to Mordor (0:37) Lothlorien arrival - Mithrandir (song, film version) (2:06) Leaving Lothlorien (2:13) Boromir comes to talk to Frodo (0:09) Boromir tries to take the Ring (0:15) Saruman's speech (drums source) -Riding to Edoras (partially only used in foreign language track) (1:11) Removal of Wormtongue (1:03) Smeagol and Gollum argue (0:13) Helm's Deep film insert/take/mix (section at 3:29 is is slightly different in the film with more snare) The Voyage to Mordor/The Dawn Battle/Theoden's Victory/Theme from the Lord of the Rings (End Titles) film version sequence (10:04) Also all the Nazgul choral sections seem to be less intelligible as english, and just sound like moaning, alt takes, different mastering, or were layers mixed out? So almost 20-30 minutes of missing material, that we know of. Holko and Incanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren 75 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Yay for Rosenman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted August 5, 2012 Author Share Posted August 5, 2012 Yay for Rosenman!Fixed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Musically, I think it stands head and shoulders above Shore's scores (and most film scores in general). Rosenman's score may have not nearly the Tolkien-ness that Shore's does, partly because his movie didn't, partly because he always wrote in his own Rosenman style. But it's still fantastic music. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 The score gets a 2 star rating from me. The score is highly inconsistent and that's probably its greatest flaw. And then there's then the ridiculously silly main theme that's overbearingly frivolous in nature. And hearing the choir go "Mooooorrrdddoooorrr" for the Ringwraiths always cracks me up. It's incredibly difficult to take this score seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted August 5, 2012 Author Share Posted August 5, 2012 The score gets a 2 star rating from me. The score is highly inconsistent and that's probably its greatest flaw. And then there's then the ridiculously silly main theme that's overbearingly frivolous in nature. And hearing the choir go "Mooooorrrdddoooorrr" for the Ringwraiths always cracks me up. It's incredibly difficult to take this score seriously.You should have kept the positive portion of your post.What tracks were highlights for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Musically, I think it stands head and shoulders above Shore's scores (and most film scores in general). Rosenman's score may have not nearly the Tolkien-ness that Shore's does, partly because his movie didn't, partly because he always wrote in his own Rosenman style. But it's still fantastic music.I can't say with such confidence that Rosenman's score is musically above Shore's since both composers utilize a highly personal voice to channel the story of their respective films. Rosenman's happens to be for good or for worse highly tied to his avant garde sensibilities and he does create a quite compelling musical world for the Bakshi film, oftentimes a challenging one for such a cartoon environment. Obviously his thinking was not half as deep as Shore's on the architectural and subtextual level but I would not expect it to be or need it to be like that. There are a number of musical ideas running through the work but alas Rosenman's thematic writing is most of the time just not very strong. He sure wasn't Williams, Goldsmith or Horner when it comes to smithing tunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 I like this score.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 Rant replaced with thematic analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Its my favorite of the few Rosenman scores I know. Or the least awful. bruce marshall and Holko 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Its my favorite of the few Rosenman scores I know. Or the least awful.Ditto.And this score actually has some very good sections. I have a certain childhood nostalgia for this score since it is the first the Lord of the Rings music I ever heard. I remember borrowing it from the library on LP. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Mithrandir's song is really the only thing worth saving for posterity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Mithrandir's song is really the only thing worth saving for posterity.Well it has that Elgarian hymn feel to it doesnt it. Only thing lacking is that it isn't sung in Sindarin or Quenya but I think it was well beyond the intentions of Bakshi and Rosenman when they did the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Its my favorite of the few Rosenman scores I know. Or the least awful.Father, forgive them; for they do not know what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I'm an Atheist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Btw....Why hasn't this thread been moved to the Tolkien subforum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share Posted June 6, 2015 For the same reason Inky's AUJ Analysis hasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Because it's a review, and not eternal drivel.Oh, wait ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 Added unreleased music section with times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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