filmmusic 1,825 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 9 hours ago, Fennel Ka said: When you said " you call Stanley and Iris minor!?" There is major and minor and everything in between. If I say Stanley and Iris is not minor, it doesn't mean it's up there too with eg. Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 6 hours ago, Koray Savas said: Heartbeeps, Cinderella Liberty, and Black Sunday are Top 10 material! I indeed appreciate Cinderella, this score was released in 1973 when the movie came out. For the two others, the scores where not released when the movies came out. These score where reissued many years later thanks to the effort of specialized labels, in these case, Varèse and FSM. Even if these scores are now welcome in any connaisseur collection, they will never become top scores among the great public. Like I always say: we can't rewrite history! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 So? It's a personal top 10, it's not suposed to reflect popular consensus. Honestly, that kind of thinking boggles my mind Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,650 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 On 10/10/2012 at 10:38 PM, Tom said: 1. Star Wars (a new hope) 2. Raiders 3. ET 4. Memoirs (though admittedly, I treat the suite for cello, whiich I think is lyrically breathtaking, as from the score) 5. Home Alone 6. Born on the Fourth 7. Harry Potter and SS 8. The Fury 9. Schindler's List 10. Tintin (brilliant orchestra fun that is pure and vibrant is never unoriginal) Over four years later, my revised list is very different: 1) ESB 2) Temple of Doom 3) Memoirs, though I continue to treat the suite as part of the score. 4) Lincoln (restrained, sincere, and just plain lovely) 5) HPSS 6) Tintin 7) ET 8) American Journey (if that is eligible--everyone needs to listen again to the glorious final movement) 9) Home Alone 10) JFK (re-listening to the concert suite recently reminded me just how powerful of a score this is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,649 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 My only regret is that numbers 1 through 10 of my list were not WAR HORSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Romão said: So? It's a personal top 10, it's not suposed to reflect popular consensus. Honestly, that kind of thinking boggles my mind I deserve the right to judge the fact that if you include such an "unreleased" score in a top 10, you probably lack a little bit of perspective on John Williams's long and impressive career. But you have perfecly the right to love these score above all the other ones. Yes, at the end, it's personal. Blacklist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,650 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 hour ago, mstrox said: My only regret is that numbers 1 through 10 of my list were not WAR HORSE. I like War Horse, but every time I listen to it, I think of Far and Away. It would make a top 30 list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 14 minutes ago, Bespin said: I deserve the right to judge the fact that if you include such a score in a top 10, you probably lack a little bit of perspective on John Williams's long and impressive career. Loving a less popular score more than the big guns makes someobody lacking in perspective of John Williams' career? Do you really want to go down that road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,649 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 19 minutes ago, Tom said: I like War Horse, but every time I listen to it, I think of Far and Away. It would make a top 30 list. I prefer it to Far and Away. War Horse was number 11 or 12 on my list, just missed the big post. I love War Horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 29 minutes ago, Romão said: Loving a less popular score more than the big guns makes someobody lacking in perspective of John Williams' career? Do you really want to go down that road? I talk about making a Top 10 list, I don't care what you love or not. Blacklist!!!! In bold and underlined!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Do you know what blacklist means? (Do I know?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Romão said: Loving a less popular score more than the big guns makes someobody lacking in perspective of John Williams' career? Do you really want to go down that road? Nothing of the sort. It just means they don't have as much perspective on John Williams' career as Bespin does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 All I really know is that E.T. would be my #1. After that, I don't think it would be a useful exercise to try and narrow down to a Top 10. I like the system of using tiers, maybe I'll sort them into tiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 20 hours ago, Cerebral Cortex said: Nothing of the sort. It just means they don't have as much perspective on John Williams' career as Bespin does. Fuck, I mean, for a Top 10, can you please chose a score among the ones the master released on record? And far as I know I never heard John Williams complains about the non-release of Heartbeeps or Black Sunday or Family Plot... and I never hear him playing a piece from those scores in public! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bespin said: And far as I know I never heard John Williams complains about the non-release of Heartbeeps or Black Sunday or Family Plot... and I never hear him playing a piece from those scores in public! He's not guessing at Williams' Top 10 of his own scores. He's saying what his favorite scores are. For pete's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: He's not guessing at Williams' Top 10 of his own scores. He's saying what his favorite scores are. For pete's sake. It's what I was saying, if those scores are in your top 10 favorite ones, maybe just lack perspective on JW's career... Maybe you don't know all his scores... the earlier ones, I don't know... but there is so much scores.. surely enough to make a Top 10 without necessarily includes the ones that where not released. Arghhh those geeks!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Just now, BloodBoal said: Just put us out of our misery and tell us what our Top 10 should be, Bespin! I didn't posted mine yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I don't know, man! There are 13 pages! You don't expect me to have read them all, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I don't see why a score has to be released in order to count as someone's favourite. Surely, STORIA DI UNA DONNA is one such example. As I said before, I separate strictly between 'soundtrack albums' and 'scores-in-film', which is why I have TWO lists that are quite different from each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 23 minutes ago, Thor said: I don't see why a score has to be released in order to count as someone's favourite. You know, I'll take that one step further. I don't see why a score has to be written in order to count as someone's favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 50 minutes ago, Bespin said: Fuck, I mean, for a Top 10, can you please chose a score among the ones the master released on record? And far as I know I never heard John Williams complains about the non-release of Heartbeeps or Black Sunday or Family Plot... and I never hear him playing a piece from those scores in public! I remember very well when Family Plot and Black Sunday were unreleased holy grails for many here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Romão said: I remember very well when Family Plot and Black Sunday were unreleased holy grails for many here Yes I know, like Sugarland will be some day :-) I didn't see it on any Top 10 list yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 So? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 So you are saying we can only have albums that were produced by Williams/the Studio around the time the film/show cam out and not by a specialty label after the fact in our top 10 lists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 45 minutes ago, Fennel Ka said: So you are saying we can only have albums that were produced by Williams/the Studio around the time the film/show cam out and not by a specialty label after the fact in our top 10 lists? Blacklist! 47 minutes ago, Romão said: So? I just wanted to say that sometimes the "wow it's new!" effect can blind our taste momentarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,825 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Bespin, please let jwfanners be themselves and post whatever they like! 1 hour ago, Bespin said: I just wanted to say that sometimes the "wow it's new!" effect can blind our taste momentarily. I perfectly agree with this! Every time a new Williams score is released, and someone listens to some seconds, we get: "Wow, this is the best score Williams ever written" i understand the enthusiasm, but.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Not with BFG! Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Or The Book Thief! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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