Chris ChrusherComix 46 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 The carousel music not found on the OST being in this release is very much desired by me. The VEEERRRY dated source music as well. Absolutely love it. I recently read the book that the movie is based on (same writer, and the novel is a bit darker, more in-depth with all of the characters and back-stories, and different climatic scenes), and the score played in my mind through to the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omen II 1,235 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I was working in nearby Balham yesterday so out of curiosity took a lunchtime stroll over to All Saints Church in Tooting, where the LSO recorded the album version of The Fury. The church was locked so unfortunately I did not get the chance to have a butcher's inside, but it does look impressive from the outside with a rather gothic style of architecture (I understand that the church dates from the early 20th century, built between 1903 and 1906). I inevitably found myself humming the main title music as I approached - it somehow seemed like the perfect venue to record such a score, if you know what I mean.I too am loving this new release, by the way, not least the extra source music, some of which reminds me very much of one the unreleased bits of source music from Miles's pool hall in Earthquake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,173 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Finally received this today. It really does sounds good - the album that is, haven't listened to a film score track yet. It's also good to see this score get so much love these days. I first heard it when I bought the old regular release in the late 90s. At that time, a few people on the internet praised it as one of Williams' best, if atypical scores - while everyone else seemed to hate it and call it Williams' worst score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 i got my copy too.also I did buy Jan Eyre re-issue. I had already forgotten I did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Surprised you'd buy Jane Eyre and The Fury but not Home Alone 2, as that's the one with the most unreleased music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 It's not the quantity. It is the quality of the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I never owned The Fury or Jane Eyre before so all its music was unreleased from my point of view. Varese's HA2 is good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,173 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I had all three. I picked up the new Fury and Eyre and skipped HA2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Finally received this today. It really does sounds good - the album that is, haven't listened to a film score track yet.It's also good to see this score get so much love these days. I first heard it when I bought the old regular release in the late 90s. At that time, a few people on the internet praised it as one of Williams' best, if atypical scores - while everyone else seemed to hate it and call it Williams' worst score.I was hooked on the score from the time I first heard the main title on the old OST album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 What are your thoughts on the new remastering of the actual film score?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Due to budgetary reasons I have not gotten the new version yet. I'll post my thoughts once I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 So, I finally got ahold of The Fury...is there any reason to keep Varese's version on iTunes? Or should I delete it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Don't delete it from iTunes. Install AVG instead. Anything that disappears, you weren't meant to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 There is No reason to keep either old version of The Fury, the LLL release is definitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 There is No reason to keep either old version of The Fury, the LLL release is definitive I forgot to ask this before. How are the liner notes? More detailed than on the Varese release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Yup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Thanks Jason! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 If you have an actual copy, I'd keep it until the LLL version goes oop.Then try and make a profit.I'm still on the fence, I haven't bought the LLL. The Varese release sounds fine to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,173 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 The LLL sounds better. Both the album recording, and especially the film recording. I actually enjoyed listening to that for the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Told ya!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Ok, bumping this thread because there is a thing that is bugging me for years.What is Hester's theme and is there a theme to begin with?Is the theme the clarinet theme heard in that track?or the strings melody at 0.29-0.46?The thing is I could never imprint that clarinet "theme" in my head!It just seems descriptive writing and not a thematic one.I've also read in the original Varese notes that in the original scoring logs Williams had named it " Love in the Camper".I am not sure if he renamed it, or someone else renamed it.So, maybe there isn't any theme to begin with, and it's just underscore writing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Your definition of a theme is rather narrow perhaps. Its does have to mean melody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Just an album name. Odd that Varese and LLL would keep the album name instead of using his original cue name for their Disc 1 of the sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Your definition of a theme is rather narrow perhaps. Its does have to mean melody.On the contrary, i have a very wide definition of theme.Even 2 chords can be a theme (the Mountain vision motif in Close Encounters).But I can't find anything thematic and characteristic in this clarinet melody.Just an album name.Odd that Varese and LLL would keep the album name instead of using his original cue name for their Disc 1 of the sets.Yes, i thought so too, but in the liner notes of Varese it says (5m1) Hester's theme.And then it says that little information about how it was named originally.Oh, unless Hester's theme was never the title of the cue, and the label just used it for the reader to find his way in the tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Ah, so the title changed between sketch score and recording log? Who knows, man. Maybe at the time he thought he'd use the clarinet melody again for Hester in another scene, then didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyy38 21 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 The Fury.John Williams ultimate tribute to Benny Herrmann!And not just because of the music either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I don't know if this has been mentioned, but take a look at this:This has nothing to do with the main titles of The Fury (or the Fury theme itself).So, maybe this is an early unrecorded version?Or this passage is used elsewhere in the soundtrack in another cue?I'm not so aquainted with the complete music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I'm watching this movie (and therefore hearing the score) for the first time tonight but I had to pause to come say that main theme reminds so much of the main melody of Prokofiev's Violin Concerto No. 2. Especially when the orchestra takes the melody at 1:33. Anyone else hear it? I apologize if this an observation made many times before. I'm not familiar with this score at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Finished the movie and I loved it. The score is incredible. Geez I wish this wasn't out of print Marian Schedenig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,738 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 22 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Finished the movie and I loved it. The score is incredible. Geez I wish this wasn't out of print The LLL version isn't out of print, just temporarily out of stock (for months on end...). There is a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I'd sell you mine if I still had it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 3 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Finished the movie and I loved it. The score is incredible. Geez I wish this wasn't out of print Also remember to listen the LSO re-recording (the original OST album) if you have the chance. It is an incredible re-imagining of the score in listening experience form. And Williams composed a full string adagio of the main theme as Epilogue specifically for that disc, which is on disc 2 of the LLL set. I suggest you keep an eye on the LLL site and snag a copy as soon as they become available again. It is a magnificent score indeed. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 9 hours ago, amh1219 said: The LLL version isn't out of print, just temporarily out of stock (for months on end...). There is a difference. This is correct. I think it's coming back before the end of the year IIRC Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Sweet. Definitely jumping on it if it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 It's definitely a grower. It was in '78. I don't have the LLL set. Is there any source music on it? On 15/03/2013 at 0:09 PM, Incanus said: Due to budgetary reasons I have not gotten the new version yet. I'll post my thoughts once I do. Have you bought it, yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I am pretty sure he has what with his post being 3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 5 hours ago, Richard said: It's definitely a grower. It was in '78. I don't have the LLL set. Is there any source music on it? http://lalalandrecords.com/Site/FuryThe.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 I see no reason to get this version when I have both Varese releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 14 hours ago, Richard said: It's definitely a grower. It was in '78. I don't have the LLL set. Is there any source music on it? Have you bought it, yet? 12 hours ago, Fennel Ka said: I am pretty sure he has what with his post being 3 years ago. Yup I bought this set as soon as my finances allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 11 hours ago, Jay said: http://lalalandrecords.com/Site/FuryThe.html Thank you for that, Jay, it's very informative. 7 hours ago, Selina Kyle said: I see no reason to get this version when I have both Varese releases. After looking at what's on the LLL release, I'd say that this is an essential purchase. If, however, you're happy with the Varese releases, then... 1 hour ago, Incanus said: Yup I bought this set as soon as my finances allowed. Yes, but you didn't tell us when you bought it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,173 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 11 hours ago, Selina Kyle said: I see no reason to get this version when I have both Varese releases. Better sound. If you want to listen to the OST and not just to the LSO recording, the LLL is a must have, as the OST programme on the new release sounds a hundred times better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Why did Varese give up its rights to THE FURY? Is this explained in the booklet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,465 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 The LLL may have better sound (I don't know, I haven't heard it and had in fact forgotten that it existed), but I think the sound even on the original Varese release was fine. I was once sent the Varese 2CD set as a gift, which thankfully included the original soundtrack (all I ever play). For this release, they had also cleaned up the sound, so with that I'm MORE than set. The way I see it, the LLL was a complete waste of money and resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Fortunately the industry does not have to see it the way you do. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 How much better could the LLL version possibly sound? It's probably just louder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 You won't know how much better the LLL release sounds, until you buy it...will you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,173 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Selina Kyle said: How much better could the LLL version possibly sound? It's probably just louder. The soundtrack recording (i.e. the other one, not the album, which Thor likes to call the "original soundtrack") sounds quite bad on the Varese set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Luckily, I only listen to the album, which is perfect and sounds good on both the original CD and Deluxe Edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Like ROTJ or E.T. you only need the OST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 9 hours ago, Richard said: Yes, but you didn't tell us when you bought it. You are very inquisitive my good fellow. It was later in 2013 if I remember correctly. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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