BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 Beyond is the best of the nuTrek films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I wouldn't be surprised. Well, I would be. But not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 14 hours ago, leeallen01 said: Plus the mother in Star Trek is like so super hotter than like the mother in Man of Steel brah. You can keep your boring blonde. I want my nasty little Jewish princess. 14 hours ago, Stefancos said: Don't you love the Kryptonian cow that "MOOOOO's" to proclaim the birth of the Superman? It's the Circle of Life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Final trailer No Rihanna, no Beastie Boys, tons of action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Would recommend against checking out the new TV spots. Pretty big spoiler in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 27 minutes ago, Jay said: Final trailer No Rihanna, no Beastie Boys, tons of action None too shabby! I've got to admit though, I was quite amused to them taking the concept of a spaceSHIP quite that literally! Really? A wave in space engulfing the Enterprise? Do you think there will be an Enterprise surfing on a wave as a "post credits" scene? Or perhaps as part of the Blu-ray bonus material? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Cerebral Cortex said: Would recommend against checking out the new TV spots. Pretty big spoiler in them. Here's the spot if anyone wants to spoil themselves (be kind to others here if you do) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,740 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 5 hours ago, Cerebral Cortex said: Would recommend against checking out the new TV spots. Pretty big spoiler in them. No idea what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 The Idris Elba commercial I posted in the post before yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Some moof-milker chose to spoil a part of the ending for me in conversation. Thank God it wasn't a huge spoiler (it was a 'knew-it-was-coming-since-the-first-trailer spoiler, unlike the one presented in the recent trailer which should have been kept as a reveal in the film) but it's going to mean the reveal isn't going to be as big. I won't repeat it here, but it's an obvious one anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 welp just saw it I need to let it sink in, but I am ready to say its better than STID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 26 minutes ago, MedigoScan said: welp just saw it I need to let it sink in, but I am ready to say its better than STID Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 4 hours ago, MedigoScan said: welp just saw it I need to let it sink in, but I am ready to say its better than STID You reckon it carries some TOS spirit in it like quite a few of the critics are saying? Oh, and: Spoiler Have they made any changes to the Constitution Class like they did at the end of Into Darkness? I'm thinking particularly for the ship that got spoiled for me, NCC-1701-A, as I believe the Beyond changes were all in Into Darkness, taking a closer look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 well its still an action movie, but it does a lot to pay honor to TOS and had TOS-like moments (It even references Enterprise canon by mentioning the Xindi war) Its also not as needlessly dark a movie as STID either, which invoked 9/11 imagery for no reason as for the spoilerquestion I didnt notice much changes, you dont see the 1701-A on the inside. But you do get a glorious quicksped montage of its assembly. The consitution class that takes over the movie at the end is the USS franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 So no Goldsmith movie theme then? Does the movie reference Carol Marcus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 13 minutes ago, Jay said: So no Goldsmith movie theme then? Does the movie reference Carol Marcus? Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 No Goldsmith movie theme just the standard series themes also there is no appearance or mention of Carol Marcus at all or any scenes like her 'infamous' one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 2 hours ago, Blumenkohl said: Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 How could anyone think that was sexist? It would be inhuman not to show off something so glorious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 So Kirk and her aren't going to have a son named David in this timeline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Wait, was she aboard Enterprise when they leave for their mission at the end of Into Darkness? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I don't remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Yes, she is! Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 There was an unfortunate airlock incident between movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I wonder if the actress didn't want to come back, or if they never bothered asking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Kirk had his world, and she had hers, and she wanted David in hers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Is Spock Prime, Nero, or Khan referenced at all? What about trilbbles? Khan's magic blood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 They clearly reference the Enterprise has been on its mission for three years, she could have gotten it on with Kirk and then left for a science station at any point in between the two movies There are no references to Nero, Tribbles, Khan or his miracle blood There are to Spock Prime When everyone arrives at the Yorktown space station, Spock (alone) is informed by Vulcan emissaries that Spock Prime has passed away. Though he later tells McCoy and Kirk Seems Spock Prime was still busy helping the Vulcans settle on New Vulcan, and current Spock wants to take over his tasks. Though that would mean leaving the Enterprise At the end of the movie he gets Spock Prime's belongings, including a foto of the old crew from the prime timeline (seems to be taken from the sixth movie) Also Leonard Nimoy and Anton Yelchin ('for Anton') are of course honored in the credits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Thanks! So how would you rank the 3 films from best to worst? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 2009 > Beyond > Into Darkness although Beyond does do a few things better than 2009 Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Seeing this tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 As am I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 21:30 GMT+1! You? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 5 hours and 20 minutes from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Enjoy the silver medal! mwhahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Damn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 21, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2016 1. Beyond 2. 2009 3. Into Darkness Dixon Hill, Pieter Boelen and Cerebral Cortex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 You know, Into Darkness is a problematic film and screws up some things quite badly. And it's derivative. It's a bad Star Trek film. But... it's not a bad "big dumb but enjoyable action adventure blockbuster". If you can forget that Wrath of Khan ever existed, I mean... Or Star Trek, for that matter... Karol Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 That's how I feel as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I still prefer it over most of the bad Trek movies (aside from TMP and Search for Spock... and may be when I am generous, Generations) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I always appreciate viewpoints that are the opposite of consensus, as long as they're genuine and not contrarian, so this review of Star Trek Into Darkness by a co-host of the popular Filmspotting podcast is very interesting to me. He actually thinks it's the highpoint of the entire movie franchise (he even thinks Pine is superior to Shatner!). And if I wasn't a longtime fan of the TV shows I can kind of almost see where he's coming from. http://www.larsenonfilm.com/star-trek-into-darkness Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 5 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I always appreciate viewpoints that are the opposite of consensus, as long as they're genuine and not contrarian But how can you tell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Just now, Sharkus Malarkus said: But how can you tell? I can only really know if it's a critic I've read or listened to for a long time and respect, such as in this case. As for just people around the Internet, not professional critics, it can be much harder especially with the sarcastic facade so many people keep up a lot of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 9 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I can only really know if it's a critic I've read or listened to for a long time and respect, such as in this case. As for just people around the Internet, not professional critics, it can be much harder especially with the sarcastic facade so many people keep up a lot of the time. Oh definitely. There's just a herd mentality on the internet tends to label out unique and individual voices as contrarian (cf. Armond White), just because they don't toe the same line as the critical establishment (J. Hoberman, Marnola Dargis, A.O. Scott). Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I haven't seen anyone ask the most important question about this movie: How many digital lens flares are there?!?! I'll try to remember to count them when I see it in 3 hours Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I totally forgot to pay attention to those .... I am sure there were some, but I cant remember The space scenes were gorgeous looking though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I just realized I haven't seen a Justin Lin film since Better Luck Tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Jay said: I just realized I haven't seen a Justin Lin film since Better Luck Tomorrow This will be my first! Looking at his IMDB, the only things I've ever seen that he directed were his episodes of the sitcom Community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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