nightscape94 965 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Music sounds like it will probably be fairly representative of the movie itself. Unobtrusive but uninteresting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 "The Battle Of Monte Cassino" Paired with "The Last Rites", I think the two tracks make up Giacchino's best dramatic action music in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Was that nothing? Get film composers nowadays get paid millions of $ to come up with mousy chord progressions and proudly wear a hat with the word 'generic' stuck on top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 "The Battle Of Monte Cassino" Paired with "The Last Rites", I think the two tracks make up Giacchino's best dramatic action music in his career. "Labyrinth Of The Minotaur" through "The Motorcycle Chase" is just pure bliss.As for Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes, I liked the bit of music he conducted. Seems to me like it's the emotional groundwork material. At any rate, I wouldn't dismiss an entire score based on an 8-minute concert suite. The little bit of music in the Jupiter Ascending trailer sounded fantastic, so I'm eagerly awaiting the action music for this one. I'm preparing for Giacchino's return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Do you suck up anything just because it's a current blockbuster? I just imagine one of the composers of the original Ape-series having to prepare a 8-minute suite. It couldn't have been this empty even if their mother's life would have been dependent on it. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 The only blockbuster score I've bought this year is Godzilla, and I haven't even listened to it yet. I'm sucking all that shit up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 And still you listen to it and honestly call it promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 I'm looking forward to the action music, but this suite is in no way indicative of what that might entail, so no I wouldn't call it promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 The only blockbuster score I've bought this year is Godzilla, and I haven't even listened to it yet. I'm sucking all that shit up.Wait, what? I thought you were a Zimmer completist? You didn't buy the TASM2 2CD Deluxe Edition set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 "The Battle Of Monte Cassino" Paired with "The Last Rites", I think the two tracks make up Giacchino's best dramatic action music in his career. "Labyrinth Of The Minotaur" through "The Motorcycle Chase" is just pure bliss.As for Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes, I liked the bit of music he conducted. Seems to me like it's the emotional groundwork material. At any rate, I wouldn't dismiss an entire score based on an 8-minute concert suite. The little bit of music in the Jupiter Ascending trailer sounded fantastic, so I'm eagerly awaiting the action music for this one. I'm preparing for Giacchino's return.You mean The Wachowskis Descending? I'm not particularly hopeful for the film, but I'd love a return of the pre-STID Giacchino... if he hasn't been murdered by the Super Serious And Gritty Brigade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I'm a Wachowski fan, and while I don't really care if the film is good or not, they know what they're doing when it comes to the audiovisual marriage. I'm sure Giacchino's score will be excellent.As much as I love the early Abrams-Giacchino collaborations, I feel that their more recent work is what is keeping Giacchino stale. Could never get into Super 8 or the two Trek scores on album, though they are perfectly fine in the respective films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Oh I like their films as well, I'm just not sold on the whole Channing Tatum thing....Super 8 and the Trek scores are ones I don't reach for often, it's true. Giacchino's mojo is hard to pin down or describe. But I hope he gets it back, whatever it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I think it's fairly simply. There's a particular energy and drive to his great scores, and the not-so-great ones feel workmanlike. Maybe it's not so clear cut, but I can hear it instantly. It's why I've never listened to John Carter more than a couple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 But that one is dripping with Giacchino mojo! More than perhaps any other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I was never able to get into it. 2010 was when I last experienced my Giacchino high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 It was four years to the day, last Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 The last word I'd use to describe John Carter is workmanlike. It's like his quintessential score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,983 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Yeah, and that's why, for me at least, Star Treks just don't cut it.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I feel like Giacchino lost his mojo before the Star Trek scores, but it came back for John Carter (which was the last Giacchino score I really enjoyed), only to disappear again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post publicist 4,643 Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 MG is the equivalent of J. J. Abrams: a fan referencing what he loves but without any spark of genius it would need to create something exceptional.I get that people WANT to like JOHN CARTER (massive Sci-Fi-Comic spectacle) and i give Giacchino that he does some pretty things along the way (the little no-gravity waltz, for example) but the writing spreads thin pretty fast, simple ostinato stuff covered by huge (read: loud) orchestration, simple harmonization covered by huge (read: loud) orchestration and so on. You don't need to be a genius to write this stuff but nowadays, just because film music by and large is even worse, people love that it sounds like a Williams/Goldsmith/Horner/Silvestri score if you hide it behind the movie. On cd it's an entirely different matter. nightscape94, Drawgoon, KK and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I feel like Giacchino lost his mojo before the Star Trek scores, but it came back for John Carter (which was the last Giacchino score I really enjoyed), only to disappear again.You know that Star Trek Into Darkness is the ONLY score he's done since John Carter, right? (Unless you count Toy Story of Terror) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Ahh yes, but judging from this suite, doesn't sound like DotPotA is going to change that verdict either. MG is the equivalent of J. J. Abrams: a fan referencing what he loves but without any spark of genius it would need to create something exceptional.I get that people WANT to like JOHN CARTER (massive Sci-Fi-Comic spectacle) and i give Giacchino that he does some pretty things along the way (the little no-gravity waltz, for example) but the writing spreads thin pretty fast, simple ostinato stuff covered by huge (read: loud) orchestration, simple harmonization covered by huge (read: loud) orchestration and so on. You don't need to be a genius to write this stuff but nowadays, just because film music by and large is even worse, people love that it sounds like a Williams/Goldsmith/Horner/Silvestri score if you hide it behind the movie. On cd it's an entirely different matter. I actually had the same issues with John Carter at first. But it's packaged really well with this score. I felt this score showed some sense of evolution in Giacchino's style. The themes are quite solid, the action tracks pretty entertaining, and all in all he does well to hide those same old chords and repetitive ostinatos. It's good entertaining score, which is more than can be said for Giacchino's other recent output, and a lot of recent film music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I pretty much agree with the opinion above about Giacchino making up for weaknesses or hiding shortcomings with wild dynamics and orchestration, albeit unintentionally. He has undeniable talent, but he seems like a student whose growth was stunted as some point and never took the rest of the classes.I really tried getting into John Carter. Although I've never seen the movie, the subject seemed ripe for classic hollywood material. I listened to about half before throwing in the white flag. Just got bored by it. There wasn't much going on. It was all sauce and no pasta. Sharkissimo and publicist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 But the sauce is better than the pasta! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 But you can't have the sauce alone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 What sells me on John Carter is that I'm still not familiar enough with the many session cues to recognize them when they come on shuffle. Rarely is there anything that gives it away as Giacchino. Some are easy to mistake for Williams underscore, at least for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max 141 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 New clip featuring Giacchino's score? Get More: Keri Russell, Gary Oldman, Movie Trailers, Celebrity News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Movie looks dumbCan we be sure that's Giacchino's score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max 141 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Can we be sure that's Giacchino's score? That was just my assumption. I had thought that the "theme" in the clip from 00:15-00:25 when Caesar appears was the same as one of the themes from the concert (2:54-3:04 in the clip below), but now I don't think they're the same... The more I listen to the MTV clip, though, the more I think the music at the end sounds like it *could* lead into the music from the VFX clip: That's just what it sounds like to me, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Some are easy to mistake for Williams underscore, at least for a while.I don't think you can mistake Williams underscore for anyone else. For example when we were picking out the unreleased music of AotC and RotS from videogame files composed by multiple composers, the Williams underscore will have nuances that can't be mistaken for anyone else Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Final trailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 that doesn;t sound like Giacchino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 It definitely isn't. Trailers don't usually feature their film's score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Images 1 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Pre-ordered!!! (I am sort of huge POTA franchise fan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Incanus 5,713 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I realized just today (yeah, I'm slow) that Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes would have been a more fitting title for the first film, and Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes a more fitting title for that sequel. Bah!Both are films I certainly have no interest to watch.Hopefully the score will turn out interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Incanus 5,713 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I realized just today (yeah, I'm slow) that Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes would have been a more fitting title for the first film, and Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes a more fitting title for that sequel. Bah!Both are films I certainly have no interest to watch.But I'm sure you would have been more interested in both films if the first one was called Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes and the second one Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes!As it is, you've got the rise before the dawn, it doesn't make any sense, it leaves you confused and as a result, you don't have any interest in the films!Nah all this monkey business just doesn't interest me one bit and the trailer further solidified that impression. I wonder if they will replace the actors with motion capture CGi counterparts in the next one. Flying, jumping, bear and human battling CGI monkeys do not exactly sent my heart racing with excitement. CGI Gary Oldman on the other hand would. He could then kick some ass CG style! He would be unstoppable method CG actor! Andy Serkis could do his movement and Gary could dub the voice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I realized just today (yeah, I'm slow) that Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes would have been a more fitting title for the first film, and Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes a more fitting title for that sequel. Bah!Both are films I certainly have no interest to watch.Hopefully the score will turn out interesting.The score will be composed by Gia. So no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I realized just today (yeah, I'm slow) that Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes would have been a more fitting title for the first film, and Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes a more fitting title for that sequel. Bah!Both are films I certainly have no interest to watch.Hopefully the score will turn out interesting.The score will be composed by Gia. So no!I have a fool's hope for Gia! One day his dart will find a mark in that flock of birds he keeps throwing them at! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,983 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 So you think this score will only please Giapologists? From the previews, it seems that he's done it all before. Lost was his ultimate Planet of the Apes tribute. I'll reserve my judgement till I hear more.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Whats wrong with monkey masks? It was good enough for Jerry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,983 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Incanus loves 2001 version!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Incanus loves 2001 version!KarolNothing beats Paul Giamatti in orangutan make-up! No, actually Charles Dance in a gorilla make-up would but that's beside the point!And I am entirely ambivalent towards Elfman's score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Anything in Gia's LOST like this? No? Thought so. Monkey masks? WTF? Do you think this is Halloween or what? publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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