Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Really boring chord progressions and milquetoast lyrics (as I've discovered Crowded House/Neil Finn in the last couple of weeks thanks to Barnald, SOTMM has really grown on me), but as Lewya says I'm sure it'll help the score's sale figures/exposure. Much like how Adele's equally bland song helped Newman's rousing score for SKYFALL become the best selling Bond album since Barry's AVTAK (which in turn benefitted from the huge popularity of Duran Duran). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Really boring chord progressions and milquetoast lyrics (as I've discovered Crowded House/Neil Finn in the last couple of weeks thanks to Barnald, SOTMM has really grown on me), but as Lewya says I'm sure it'll help the score's sale figures/exposure. Much like how Adele equally bland song helped Newman's rousing score for SKYFALL become the best selling Bond album since Barry's AVTAK (which in turn benefitted from the huge popularity of Duran Duran).#1950 LewyaGlad you're liking Crowded House!Being as this song isn't getting a release elsewhere it will definitely shift more albums. I'd be somewhat amused if it ended up getting an Oscar nomination, but if it's a lean year you never know.According to TORN, they've done a video for the song, as it was played at cinemas last night before the 20 minutes of film footage. Do we think it's got film clips in or not? Sheeran riding on top of Smaug whilst playing his guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 5, 2013 Author Share Posted November 5, 2013 Just listening to the song.I may be a snobby film music fan, a Rings fanboy, Shore fanboy on top of that, and spoiled by the songs Shore wrote for Rings films. But trying to put all of this aside, I have to say, boy Jesus is this song awful for Middle-Earth. When I imagine this over the credits, my GOD how far have these Tolkien songs come. At least Finn's song had a good thematic hook, while this Sheeran thing, guitars and lyrics, sounds like something out of Brokeback Mountain.Btw, track list now on amazon as well (http://www.amazon.com/Hobbit-Desolation-Original-Picture-Soundtrack/dp/B00FFT1BJ0/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1383649804&sr=1-1&keywords=hobbit) A. A. Ron and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I said you'd be begging for Finn's song by the end of this! Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicebrallice 134 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I'm a sheeran fan and I'm definitely liking the song on its own quite a lot. does it feel middle-earthy? no. did I expect otherwise? no. am I gonna play this on repeat today? yes!It's instantly my favorite of the 5 LOTR/TH songs so far!wow! seriously?Its no In Dreams! Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Yea, seriously... It's great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 The song does nothing for me. The problem is this - while some of the lyrics suggest otherwise, it doesn't feel like it's about a band of Dwarves in the way that Song of the Lonely Mountain did. It feels more like a ballad some guy is singing to his loved one on the eve of some apocalyptic event - dare I say it, a love song. I suspect many teenage girls will love it as a result.This pretty much sums up how I feel too. It's kind of nice if you ignore the lyrics.It feels like it would be more at home at the end of a Percy Jackson film than a Middle-Earth* film.*Or should I have said Peter Jackson. Song of the Lonely Mountain at least sounded like it had something to do with the score. I can't imagine this having anything to do with Shore's music (or even Plan 9s). I do like the sound of the track but the lyrics and the vocal harmony make me wince.I dunno, I expect to enjoy both the film and the score very much. A bad end credits song will ruin nothing for me. It would have been nice to have someone like Nick Cave sing it but whatever. It's a tacked on pop song that I just won't listen to. It's not like it's plays over Thorin's "If this should end in fire..." speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Yeesh, what a horrible horrible song! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 The song's alright, nothing impressive, and certainly not what you'd expect of Middle-Earth. As a song on its own, I like it better than Neil Finn's song, but at least Neil Finn tried to do something to make the song sound like what he'd hear in a Middle-Earth film (even if that idea may have been misguided) and as GK said, it has a strong melodic hook going for it. Ed Sheeran's song doesn't sound any different from the average teenage pop song.This is your favourite LotR/Hobbit song Jason? All 3 LotR songs were way better than this.I'd rank it above AUJ's song, but below the LotR ones. Not bad, but not that good either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Right now I'd rank themI See FireInto The WestGollum's SongMay It BeSong of the Lonely Mountain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 And this Sheeran's song should be the bees knees? Nope. Did absolutely nothing for me and certainly doesn't feel enough Middle Earth to my ears either. A shame. I can't detect the greatness of this young man in this particular song either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 5, 2013 Author Share Posted November 5, 2013 If you weren't a fan of his before this, it most likely doesn't win you over now. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 True. I am rather particular of my Middle Earth songs. But it looks like we are getting a proper end credits suite too, judging by the track list. Or I suspect Beyond the Forest is something akin to an end credits suite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I had never heard any of his music before I heard this song, and I instantly loved it.His album on the other hand... boring pop dreck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Have running times been posted yet? Credit to Calvin Scholtz on Doug's blog:Disc 11.The Quest for Erebor 3:222 Wilderland 4:563 A Necromancer (Bonus Track) 2:544 The House of Beorn (Extended Version) 4:525 Mirkwood (Extended Version) 5:316 Flies and Spiders (Extended Version) 9:357 The Woodland Realm (Extended Version) 5:148 Feast of Starlight 2:489 Barrels Out of Bond 1:5010 The Forest River (Extended Version) 5:1011 Bard, a Man of Lake-Town (Extended Version) 3:1812 The High Fells (Extended Version) 3:3813 The Nature of Evil 3:2014 Protector of the Common Folk 3:35Total: 62:07Disc 21 Thrice Welcome 3:332 Girion, Lord of Dale (Extended Version) 4:153 Durin's Folk (Extended Version) 3:044 In the Shadow of the Mountain 2:155 A Spell of Concealment (Extended Version) 3:226 On the Doorstep 7:467 The Courage of Hobbits 3:008 Inside Information 3:489 Kingsfoil 2:2510 A Liar and a Thief 3:4111 The Hunters (Extended Version) 9:5512 Smaug (Extended Version) 6:2913 My Armor Is Iron 5:1614 I See Fire (performed by Ed Sheeran) 5:0015 Beyond the Forest 5:25Total: 70:14That's a lot of music. If this is representative of the film (yes, I know, I know) then there can't be much left, considering a time of 156 minutes was bandied about recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 5, 2013 Author Share Posted November 5, 2013 Btw, this teenie pop thing better than Shore's compositions paired with the voices of Annie Lennox and Emilliana Torrini?Not by a long shot. Typical "let's get a cool song for marketing" stunt. This has as much to do with the film as Puff Daddy had to do with Godzilla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Incanus 5,714 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 That's a lot of music. If this is representative of the film (yes, I know, I know) then there can't be much left, considering a time of 156 minutes was bandied about recently.I suspect it will be as wall-to-wall scored as the previous ones. So there will bound to be unreleased stuff in the film itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Have running times been posted yet? Yes, we've known them since the score went up in iTunes last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Ah sorry about that. The Girion flashback looks intriguingly long, though I was hoping 'Quest for Erebor' would be longer (the sequence might still be in the film) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicebrallice 134 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Yea, seriously... It's great!on its own or do you also think it's a great end credits song for this film?His album on the other hand... boring pop dreck.no way, man! give me love is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Yea, seriously... It's great!on its own or do you also think it's a great end credits song for this film?On it's own, obviously. I haven't seen the film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Yea, seriously... It's great!on its own or do you also think it's a great end credits song for this film?His album on the other hand... boring pop dreck.no way, man! give me love is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I guess I forget sometimes how many people here listen to only film scores / classical music and have no interest in the pop and rock scene. I am so thankful I spent time in both worlds. SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Fix your sister Alvar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I'm jamming out to Coheed and Cambria and Porcupine Tree at work today and loving it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I'm jamming out to Coheed and Cambria and Porcupine Tree at work today and loving itAnd there is nothing wrong with that nor particularly right either. Celebrate all music you happen to find appealing and like. If music, any music, enriches your life then it is a fantastic thing I say. Smeltington and alicebrallice 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTennisBallKid 17 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I'm jamming out to Coheed and Cambria and Porcupine Tree at work today and loving itAnd there is nothing wrong with that nor particularly right either. Celebrate all music you happen to find appealing and like. If music, any music, enriches your life then it is a fantastic thing I say. Rubbish! Howard Shore or death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I'm jamming out to Coheed and Cambria and Porcupine Tree at work today and loving itAnd there is nothing wrong with that nor particularly right either. Celebrate all music you happen to find appealing and like. If music, any music, enriches your life then it is a fantastic thing I say. Rubbish! Howard Shore or death!No actually it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I guess I forget sometimes how many people here listen to only film scores / classical music and have no interest in the pop and rock scene. I am so thankful I spent time in both worlds.Yes, it's apparently a rare blessing to be able to say that. A shame. I'm glad to join you there.So what, three of us don't despise the song? I'd say that's a solid win. SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I guess I forget sometimes how many people here listen to only film scores / classical music and have no interest in the pop and rock scene. I am so thankful I spent time in both worlds.Yes, it's apparently a rare blessing to be able to say that. A shame. I'm glad to join you there.Likewise, though I'm not a fan of Ed Sheeran, One Direction or their kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I think it will be a big radio hit, probably the most popular of all the LOTR/Hobbit songs to the general public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I think it will be a big radio hit, probably the most popular of all the LOTR/Hobbit songs to the general public.I predict no one here in Finland will be none the wiser after the album or the film comes out. This guy seems like a non-entity here at least. I have not heard any of his music anywhere nor seen his "hit" CD in stores.Oh and btw I do know when I like something, all kinds of music included, pop, rock, classical, film scores etc. Sheeran's music just doesn't have that elusive something to move me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I guess I forget sometimes how many people here listen to only film scores / classical music and have no interest in the pop and rock scene. I am so thankful I spent time in both worlds.Yes, it's apparently a rare blessing to be able to say that. A shame. I'm glad to join you there.Likewise, though I'm not a fan of Ed Sheeran, One Direction or their kind.I wouldn't say I'm a fan of Sheeran either, I just don't mind him coming into the fold here. He seems to be a genuine artist and not a "personality" kept afloat by publicists, producers, and songwriters.I'm as picky and prone to snobbery as the next musically minded person, and there's precious little music written today in the "popular" idiom that I enjoy. But there is some, and I always enjoy finding it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Fix your sister Alvar!I'll do my best to save her!I'm jamming out to Coheed and Cambria and Porcupine Tree at work today and loving itPorcupine Tree! Lol! What's next? Seahorse Baobab? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I think it will be a big radio hit, probably the most popular of all the LOTR/Hobbit songs to the general public.Oh and btw I do know when I like something, all kinds of music included, pop, rock, classical, film scores etc. Sheeran's music just doesn't have that elusive something to move me.Indeed. Not liking Sheeran's song has nothing to do with the kind of music we primarily listen to. It just sounds like a bland song to me, nothing particularly interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Okay, listened to it properly.As I said, it's not a bad song. In fact it's a pretty good... pop ballad.Doesn't fit into the Middle-Earth soundscape. At all.Maybe that's the studio version and there's another film mix?Karol Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Maybe that's the studio version and there's another film mix?Wouldn't it make more sense to have the studio version in the film and the other mix on the OST? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicebrallice 134 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Alice... I thought you were worth more than the typical screaming teenage fangirls...EEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!hehe you're one to talk...ARRGGHHH AAAANDYYYYYYYYYYY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 So that's what BloodBoal looks like...Maybe that's the studio version and there's another film mix?Wouldn't it make more sense to have the studio version in the film and the other mix on the OST?No, what I'm saying is that maybe there's a Shored up version in the film.But then, given that Conrad Pope had nothing to do with this, it's unlikely...Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Fix your sister Alvar!I'll do my best to save her!I'm jamming out to Coheed and Cambria and Porcupine Tree at work today and loving itPorcupine Tree! Lol! What's next? Seahorse Baobab?Porcupine Tree is an awesome band! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I like Fear of a Blank Planet album. Very good stuff.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I think it will be a big radio hit, probably the most popular of all the LOTR/Hobbit songs to the general public.Oh and btw I do know when I like something, all kinds of music included, pop, rock, classical, film scores etc. Sheeran's music just doesn't have that elusive something to move me.Indeed. Not liking Sheeran's song has nothing to do with the kind of music we primarily listen to. It just sounds like a bland song to me, nothing particularly interesting.Same. I listen to a lot of pop/rock as well as film music. I would even say I'm more knowledgeable of Pop and Rock than I am of film music. I just don't like this song. It's the type of stuff (like Kings of Leon) that I avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Prefer Fear of a Black Planet myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Porcupine Tree is an awesome band!Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I don't listen to Fear of a Blank Planet as much as I do to In Absentia, Deadwing, or The Incident, mostly because it's not on Spotify. But I love all 4 albums. And I haven't even begun to dig into their early albums yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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