Delorean90 42 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Ability and will are two different things.Yeah but this is a different, gritty, realistic Superman.After what he did in MOS it would be laughable to actually have these 2 fight, unless the old tired kryptonite crutch falls into Batman's lap. And do we need Batman coming out in a human sized, Pacific Rim style costumed to try and stand toe to toe with him?I get the impression this MOS won't tolerate bs, especially with one of his last lines in the film as Superman.But I'm sure this film will make tons of money for WB and give them the billion dollar hit they were hoping MOS would be.I think the proper storyline would be for Superman and Batman to have distrust, but TDK knows he can't go toe to toe so maybe he builds on the public's fear of what the MOS could become. However a serious event happens that proves Supeman's worth and makes Batman trust him. Batman can handle Gotham but the world has changed with Kal-El's arrival and there are other gifted people waiting in the shadows to come forward and protect earth, all they needed was a leader to look to and Superman is that man....segue to Justice League.Though this isn't the route I would've gone for, it actually makes a certain amount of sense as a way to distinguish their approach from Marvel's: make this actually an unfolding series of films that are not just focused on single characters, but developing this world/ensemble/mythology. But I don't like the idea that we still have to have some kind of event that proves Superman. They already shot their load with the destruction of Metropolis, and then proceeded to not give us any real idea what the people of Earth think. The denoument was kind of a mess. Something else that occurs to me (and someone might've mentioned it already and I forgot): how the hell do you get a Batman/Superman confrontation based on The Dark Knight Returns after the drone scene in MOS? Doesn't that run contrary to the entire setup of the conflict in TDKR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I agree with Mark. This Supes would not tolerate Batman even trying to fight him. He pulled down a 12 million buck drone just to make a point!He would pull of the Batmask and leave Batman hanging on his utility belt for all to see, before going his merry way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 There would be a hole in Batman's head where is face used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Superman does not kill in anger. Don't be like Joe now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 As comic booky as it is, I've always loved this moment (those are kryptonite gloves he's wearing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 LOL Superman's eye lasers would just explode his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 No need, just 2 beams across the elbows, the gloves fall off and the Bat has nothing but stumps left.Sorted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Yeah, plus there's the Monty Python comedy value with that method, so it's win win for us fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I have faith in Snyder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook1991 10 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Thank you for clearing that up. I wasn't sure if those websites were reputable or not... I am completely stoked for this new film. The entire movie I believe will ride on who they cast as Batman but I think the film will be great!!! I think Zack Snyder already has the person picked who will play Batman and I'm sure they made a great choice and probably had a little guidance from Christopher Nolan. Also even though Nolan's involvement will more distant this time around I think we will still have somewhat of a Nolan stamp on the film one way or another. 2015 is going to have great summer blockbusters! There's no denying that! Can't wait!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 As comic booky as it is, I've always loved this moment (those are kryptonite gloves he's wearing)That comic was a huge disappointment unless you look at it as some kind of weird satire on the first book and the subsequent grim n' gritty trend that it created. And even then it incomparable to the masterpiece that was The Dark Knight Returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Wojo and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 As comic booky as it is, I've always loved this moment (those are kryptonite gloves he's wearing)That comic was a huge disappointment unless you look at it as some kind of weird satire on the first book and the subsequent grim n' gritty trend that it created. And even then it incomparable to the masterpiece that was The Dark Knight Returns.Oh, I agree with you, totally. I just loved this particular moment, as silly as it was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 That's a completely idiotic moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I agree with Mark. This Supes would not tolerate Batman even trying to fight him. He pulled down a 12 million buck drone just to make a point!He would pull of the Batmask and leave Batman hanging on his utility belt for all to see, before going his merry way.Batman fans love to believe that their hero would stand some kind of a chance. Don't they live in the real world? Has Nolan's work been in vain?! Anyway, if you want to beat Supes, then forget about Bats, call Bane! Surely, it's something we all have learned by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 You cannot break the back of the Man Of Steel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I suppose I should really get around to watching Batman 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 You didnt see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Superman would make Bane eat that mask and then rip his head off and stick it up Batman's ass, then up Bane's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 You cannot break the back of the Man Of Steel!but apparently you can break his neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 You didnt see it?It's not as bad as people say but the Batman / Bane scenes are the most disappointing. First of all Bane dispatches Batman too easily in their first encounter. In the comic, Batman was worn down physically and mentally from having to round up all the criminals Bane had released. In the film Batman is fresh and doesn't do much to Bane.The second fight is even more puzzling as Batman goes toe to toe with him and damages Bane's mask and pummels him too easily and then doesn't even get to kill Bane as the villain is dealt a surprising defeat and death by Catwoman.Those are the two weakest aspects of the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I have to agree with Mark. Especially on the second point (i honestly don't care about the comics) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I too couldn't careless about the comics but ya those two points brought up by Mark I too agree with. It just seemed a bit rushed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I only bring up the comics because it gave a valid reason for the results of the first fight. Something Nolan could have taken a similar route with, not as epic of course, but at least it would have made the sequence work better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 You cannot break the back of the Man Of Steel!but apparently you can break his neck.Gee, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Now, who would win in a fight between Nolan and Snyder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Well at least Snyder knows one thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Superman was a fucking God in MoS!The Bat can't even go near him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Snyder wants Miller.http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/batman-v-superman-zach-snyder-takes-advice-from-frank-miller-in-bid-for-blockbuster-battle-of-the-superheroes-8739894.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 I'm still pissed they're going down this road so soon. Don't want to read what they have planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 There us that good old Fanboy entitlement again!Booowoooohooo...they arent doing it like i want then too!!!Did you ball your fists when you read the news Lee? Did you cry?Man up you whining c*nt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Eh? I would have just liked the Superman franchise to remain exclusive to Superman, that's all. There's Justice League for the crossovers.Get fucked you excitable blert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Kisses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Okay kiddies, play nice now or a mod will put you both in time out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Zack Snyder has begun looking at the following actors to play Batman: Joe Mangianello (True Blood), Max Martini (Pacific Rim), Richard Armitage (The Hobbit), Josh Brolin (Gangster Squad), Ryan Gosling (Drive), and Matthew Goode (Watchmen). Nothing has been set in stone, and it's possible an out-of-left-field choice could land the role.Source.I like the possibility of Armitage or Martini playing the role, but not so sure on the other guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I didn't think they would go for an older choice, going that literally with Dark Knight Returns. It's strange and not consistent with the young Superman they just introduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Brolin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I didn't think they would go for an older choice, going that literally with Dark Knight Returns. It's strange and not consistent with the young Superman they just introduced. Goslin is only two years older than Cavill. As for checking out a few slightly older actors, maybe they want Batman to be a bit older and wiser than Superman, someone who's been longer at the job than he is.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Alex has a good point about picking someone who would be a bit older and wiser than Clark Kent for Bruce Wayne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Jon Hamm would be perfect IMO. He's 40, so not too old, and definitely can take charge from an authoritative stand point. Plus, he's already got Wayne down pat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Good choice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I think Fassbender has too much on his plate right now.The guys who worked with Snyder before (Goode, Butler and apparently Jeffrey Dean Morgan) have the edge over the other guys in the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I'm still on the fence about Fassbender anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Fassbender has also worked with Snyder before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 That's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Well that is decided then!Fassbender is the new Bale! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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