BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 10 hours ago, Stefancos said: Cameron, brilliant director, very pedestrian screen writer. Like Lucas, right? Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Lucas is not a pedestrian screen writer he's a flaming, horrendous car wreck of a screenwriter. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 10 hours ago, Stefancos said: True. Cameron, brilliant director, very pedestrian screen writer. It sort of adds to his movies' charm for me. Avatar wouldn't be Avatar without the wooden dialogue and simple characters, and I'm totally fine with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 His skill as a director compensates for his writing to a large extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 19 hours ago, Godzilla said: Why do people hate the love story? Is it a macho man thing? Does it upset their fragile masculinity? I don't care for it because I'm much more interested in the other stuff going on. That love story distracts from the real life historical maritime catastrophe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 "If I wanted to see something about the real life historical maritime catastrophe, I'd watch a documentary!" - Someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 The movie never pretends to be anything other than a love story though. The ship is a setting; its sinking creates the drama for our ill-fated couple. It would be like getting mad at Die Hard for not properly developing the Nakatomi Plaza as a character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 The Titanic played itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 "If I wanted to know more about the Nakatomi Plaza, I'd watch a documentary!" - Someone Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: "If I wanted to know more about the Nakatomi Plaza, I'd watch a documentary!" - Someone Boy is it their lucky day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 It's too short! Give me moar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 2 hours ago, BloodBoal said: "If I wanted to see something about the real life historical maritime catastrophe, I'd watch a documentary!" - Someone Hehe. Doesn't mean a good movie can't be made out of it though. And a few years after seeing Titanic, I discovered that a good movie WAS made out of it: "A Night to Remember". Bit old though and they got some of the facts wrong because they weren't yet known at the time they made that movie. 2 hours ago, nightscape94 said: The movie never pretends to be anything other than a love story though. The ship is a setting; its sinking creates the drama for our ill-fated couple. It would be like getting mad at Die Hard for not properly developing the Nakatomi Plaza as a character. Fair point. The movie really isn't about the Titanic and, if taken as an unrelated and different story altogether, it is probably very well done. After all, they must have done SOMETHING right, considering the film's popularity! But of course with me being me and my interests being what they are, when you name a movie literally "Titanic", I end up expecting to see something about the Titanic. Which isn't what it is. I wonder if an alternate title could have been chosen that would have fit more accurately. After all, "Die Hard" wasn't titled "Nakatomi Plaza" either. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 I love every aspect of Titanic. It's perfect. Just perfect. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Agreed. It was on TV today and I watched again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 The love story is the focus, but Cameron constantly cuts away to the rest of the ship's population and in many cases uses the fictional characters to feature the real people who were aboard. It's brilliant. You can tell he really dug on the operations of the ship and the crew but was restricted by the nature of the story. But many of those people have recurring roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 9 hours ago, Pieter_Boelen said: And a few years after seeing Titanic, I discovered that a good movie WAS made out of it: "A Night to Remember". Bit old though and they got some of the facts wrong because they weren't yet known at the time they made that movie. Thank you, Pieter! I was waiting for someone to mention ANTR. In almost every way, it's a better film, than TITANIC. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 On 28/04/2017 at 7:23 AM, Stefancos said: True. Cameron, brilliant director, very pedestrian screen writer. 16 hours ago, BloodBoal said: Like Lucas, right? Right? He's pedestrian at both. Lucas is a pioneering mind who happened to pour his imagination into filmmaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 How different the world would have been, if that seatbelt had not malfunctioned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 "Pedestrian" must be JWfan's favourite word. What's your obsession with crossing the street? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 In the wake of Drax's post, we should all try harder to not say 'pedestrian'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 It's the new "in the wake..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Stefancos said: It's the new "in the wake..." You need to be not quite so pedestrian with your reply speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 17 minutes ago, Godzilla said: "Pedestrian" must be JWfan's favourite word. What's your obsession with crossing the street? 4 minutes ago, Quintus said: In the wake of Drax's post, we should all try harder to not say 'pedestrian'. 2 minutes ago, Quintus said: You need to be not quite so pedestrian with your reply speed. I'm walking away from this conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Or just take it in your stride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 My reply speed walks all over yours, matey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Looks like your were caught dawdling just before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 And fire walked with me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Stumbled on this old interview, I like this quote! Quote Q: Is the pressure of having a “pre-awareness” title increasingly encroaching on what you want to do as a filmmaker? Cameron: I just think it’s not a coincidence that the people who make those movies are not being honored. ... The only reason we’re sitting in this room is because everybody in here is doing distinctive, original stuff. Iconoclastic stuff, whatever it is, and not some stupid number six in a series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 1 minute ago, mrbellamy said: Stumbled on this old interview, I like this quote! Which is why there'll be five Avatar movies not 6! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 OooOOOooohhh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Josh Brolin says James Cameron called him names for turning down Avatar sequels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 How dare he say no to Cinematic Game Changer James Cameron. Bilbo and Jay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 It would be more surprising if Cameron hadn't called him names. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Sounds like Jim hasn't mellowed with age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Was this also posted? Stephen Lang will be the main villain for all four Avatar sequels. These continue to sound awfully redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: How dare he say no to Cinematic Game Changer James Cameron. LOL Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 It's already won Most Dumbass Marketing Phrase of the year for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Franchises are redundant but these sequels seem beyond redundant. Who actually wants to see these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Nobody I know. Nobody I know even re-watches the original ever. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: Franchises are redundant but these sequels seem beyond redundant. Who actually wants to see these? Cameron, his friends, & his cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 17 minutes ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: Franchises are redundant but these sequels seem beyond redundant. Who actually wants to see these? Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Tell us why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Just now, Jay said: Tell us why The world building of the first film is great (yeah, a couple of names like "Unobtanium" are dumb but that's part of the charm) and has lots of potential for expansion, James Cameron has a knack for emotionally charged broad strokes storytelling (a quality that's practically non-existant in today's directors), action direction, and sequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 I actually can see where Not Mr. Big is coming from. For the sequel Cameron could surprise us all, not fair to write the film off entirely just yet anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 I am certainly willing to go into it with an open mind, I'm not pre-determined to hate it at all. Its just hard to see it making any kind of splash in the current blockbuster world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 I was completely indifferent to the first movie, but I would never bet agains Cameron Indianagirl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 If Horner were alive and scoring it I'd be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 All these years later I still find his Avatar score boring. Can't get into it Indianagirl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Romão said: I was completely indifferent to the first movie, but I would never bet agains Cameron Pretty much my feelings too. I'm intrigued for the second one at least since it's bound to be uniquely dazzling filmmaking for at least some substantial stretch and we all know Cameron's not gonna do anything without doing it big. I am sure I'll be surprised by it somehow, technically if nothing else. But I do wonder about its ability to make me want several more hours of this story, since the first film didn't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 6 hours ago, Disco Stu said: All these years later I still find his Avatar score boring. Can't get into it It's Horner desperately struggling getting a bit of style into the mechanical blockbuster trappings, with very limited success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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