Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 But he loved Star Wars, so I don't get why he couldn't like Goldsmith's march. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,903 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 He insinuated over several interviews that he liked the more mysterious/impressionist parts but not the main theme (read: the Williams-inspired march approach). He did go on praising ALIEN in the same interview though and given his broad romantic approach on practically every big adventure movie he did we can only surmise that James Horner just wasn't a big fan of marches in these kind of movies but dug the strange, ethereal textures by Goldsmith.Wait a second, there is a recent long interview where he raves over Goldsmith and especially Alien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 And there's another recent interview where he can't even recall Goldsmith's name when the subject of Star Trek: The Motion Picture score comes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Horner didn't even hear Goldsmiths music before the 80's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 He insinuated over several interviews that he liked the more mysterious/impressionist parts but not the main theme (read: the Williams-inspired march approach). He did go on praising ALIEN in the same interview though and given his broad romantic approach on practically every big adventure movie he did we can only surmise that James Horner just wasn't a big fan of marches in these kind of movies but dug the strange, ethereal textures by Goldsmith.Wait a second, there is a recent long interview where he raves over Goldsmith and especially Alien.Isn't that exactly what i wrote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,903 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 He insinuated over several interviews that he liked the more mysterious/impressionist parts but not the main theme (read: the Williams-inspired march approach). He did go on praising ALIEN in the same interview though and given his broad romantic approach on practically every big adventure movie he did we can only surmise that James Horner just wasn't a big fan of marches in these kind of movies but dug the strange, ethereal textures by Goldsmith.Wait a second, there is a recent long interview where he raves over Goldsmith and especially Alien. Isn't that exactly what i wrote?Ok, so I missed your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 A good 'ole James Horner joint merrily referencing GLORY, AVATAR and A FAR OFF PLACE and it's soon out. Listen to the full theme on this site.http://www.the33movie.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 A good 'ole James Horner joint merrily referencing GLORY, AVATAR and A FAR OFF PLACE and it's soon out. Listen to the full theme on this site.http://www.the33movie.com/If anyone wants to download that directly - http://wbpsites.com/the33/us/tumblr/sounds/loop.ogg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 At some point I'm probably going to break down and get this shirt: http://radicaalgenuanceerd.spreadshirt.nl/danger-dadahda-daaah-A11465600/customize/color/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I love it. I love this man. I miss this man. Fuck. MikeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post karelm 2,903 Posted March 18, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2016 Very important historical document: https://ia601500.us.archive.org/11/items/calauem_000217/calauem_000217_access.HD.mp4 Folks, this is actually a fucking big deal. Horner giving his thoughts at 19:40. This is maybe mid 1980s. History in the making...take note....what i would give to be there. publicist, Dixon Hill, Muad'Dib and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Heh, he sure doesn't sugarcoat his thoughts about Jim Cameron. Ah James. I for one have no qualms holding you alongside Mozart or Haydn or Beethoven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,903 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 He seems like such a young man but I think this might be post Aliens. He was already a big deal. Ok, so Glory had already been released so this might even be 1990. He looks so young. He comes across as authentic but you can see some evidence to why some of those who knew him might have thought he was an egocentric ass. He has a big ego for sure but he was also brilliant and a very effective composer gone too soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 He was so adorable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 This is a real gem. James comparing himself to both a prostitute and painter, why he wouldn't write music for Murder She Wrote, and indirectly answering the plagiarism question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 I could never admit this when he was alive, but I just love listening to him speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,304 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 4 hours ago, karelm said: Very important historical document: https://ia601500.us.archive.org/11/items/calauem_000217/calauem_000217_access.HD.mp4 Folks, this is actually a fucking big deal. Horner giving his thoughts at 19:40. This is maybe mid 1980s. History in the making...take note....what i would give to be there. Thank you for posting this, what a find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 5 hours ago, karelm said: Folks, this is actually a fucking big deal. Horner giving his thoughts at 19:40. This is maybe mid 1980s. History in the making...take note....what i would give to be there. Rather 1991, probably around the release of 'Terminator 2' which Horner cites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 And judging by the shirt and pants on that first speaker. Cerebral Cortex and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Didn't know that about Alan Menken and ghost writers. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 I thought it was funny when that one guy asked Horner about similarities in his scores for Aliens and Star Trek! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Or when Horner referred to Ennio Morricone as possible plagiarism defendant when he could just as well said 'gee folks i just got sued for ripping off not one but two composers in 'Honey i Shrunk the Kids' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 14 minutes ago, publicist said: Or when Horner referred to Ennio Morricone as possible plagiarism defendant when he could just as well said 'gee folks i just got sued for ripping off not one but two composers in 'Honey i Shrunk the Kids' I am sure poor James was forced under duress from the studio/director to quote both himself and other composers so often in his scores. Or perhaps that was his devious way of giving them the shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Yes! He cannot be blamed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 16 minutes ago, Incanus said: Or perhaps that was his devious way of giving them the shaft. I would think so. He often re-told the outrage of not being copyright owner of his music and thus being forced to re-invent all the time or the studios would sue his ass off. A bold lie in clear daylight! But it's another facet of his personality i find more amusing than intolerable. He lived in his very own world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 20 hours ago, karelm said: Very important historical document: https://ia601500.us.archive.org/11/items/calauem_000217/calauem_000217_access.HD.mp4 Folks, this is actually a fucking big deal. Horner giving his thoughts at 19:40. This is maybe mid 1980s. History in the making...take note....what i would give to be there. 1990's, you meant. Or 1990 exactly. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 No. Later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Well, this guy mentions that he attended session to Glory "last year". Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 But Terminator 2 is 1991. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Yeah, just got to the part in which he talks about Beauty and the Beast. That is also 1991. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 So the guy was wrong! Or he mistook The Rocketeer for Glory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Well, it's easy to do when it comes to Horner. Anyway, surprised to hear a comment on Hook. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 1 hour ago, crocodile said: Anyway, surprised to hear a comment on Hook. It was definitely nice to hear him say that Williams deserved the Oscar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 What time does he mention Hook? I fell asleep watching it! It's ASMR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 He talks of Beauty and the Beast having won best score, so this is after March 30, 1992. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 7 hours ago, Disco Stu said: It was definitely nice to hear him say that Williams deserved the Oscar! I think he meant only that the score deserved a nomination as it only got nominated for the song When You Are Alone that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 This is one of my favorite Horner interviews, towards the end. It was because of these geniuses like Horner, Williams, Goldsmith et al. kind of "slumming it" in Hollywood that I was introduced to orchestral music. Had it not been for their scores, who knows what I'd be listening to now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Drinking to Horner! He left us his music and his interviews. RIP. Dixon Hill and JoeinAR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Very interesting analysis by the ethnomusicologist who worked with Horner on AVATAR and why the score sounds as whitebread as it does: http://ethnomusicologyreview.ucla.edu/journal/volume/17/piece/583 crocodile and Incanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Very cool, thanks for sharing. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 On 6.5.2016 at 10:52 PM, publicist said: Very interesting analysis by the ethnomusicologist who worked with Horner on AVATAR and why the score sounds as whitebread as it does: http://ethnomusicologyreview.ucla.edu/journal/volume/17/piece/583 This was a nice look behind the creating of the score and its ethnic musical elements and also showcases how much of the work was actually discarded before it even made it to the film. And it is a good reminder of all the elements that affect a film score, especially those ever important commercial considerations, that might force the composer's hand and steer him clear of musical choices that would alienate the audiences or challenge them too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Do the synth vocals in Titanic make more sense now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 25 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Do the synth vocals in Titanic make more sense now? They never did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Really? You guys don't see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 They're great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Finally! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Stop being so accepting of everything TWR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Horner and Cameron were obviously trying to evoke the new age/Enya feel. And you do that better with the synth choir then a real one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 10 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Horner and Cameron were obviously trying to evoke the new age/Enya feel. And you do that better with the synth choir then a real one. Yeah that is likely the case. Although the Back to Titanic CD Titanic Suite with real choir is not bad at all methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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