Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Catching on quick! Strayhorn loved writing for Hodges. Another one he did was Bluebird... . An unfortunate stereotype musicologists have made is since Strayhorn was gay, he was responsible for the "feminine" music. Ellington could get pretty damn sensitive too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I've been listening to this music for years and just had honestly never thought about possible differences between them. I had tacitly accepted the credits as meaning they were equal collaborators always. Which is fine, probably. It's all about the final product after all. It's very interesting though to reapproach old favorites with a new paradigm in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Ellington did tend to have a harsher edge to his sound, but c'mon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 My god it's beautiful (I obviously knew this was Strayhorn solo already, it's just amazing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Just now, Disco Stu said: I've been listening to this music for years and just had honestly never thought about possible differences between them. I had tacitly accepted the credits as meaning they were equal collaborators always. Which is fine, probably. It's all about the final product after all. It's very interesting though to reapproach old favorites with a new paradigm in mind. Call me mired in Western notions of individuality, but I actuslly really like being able to listen to a piece and being able to say "Good job, ____ !" And hearing their unique personalities play out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Yes, I was discussing with @TGP the other night that I've never been able to shake my reverence for moments of individual creative inspiration. Nick Parker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: My god it's beautiful (I obviously knew this was Strayhorn solo already, it's just amazing) As played by Ellington. This album was made as tribute after Strayhorn passed away, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Just now, Nick Parker said: As played by Ellington. This album was made as tribute after Strayhorn passed away, I believe. Yep. The legend goes that he was pretty devastated by Strayhorn's death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Yep. The legend goes that he was pretty devastated by Strayhorn's death. Very. They were super tight, so tight that it's surprising they haven't turned it into a biopic! They did it with The Room! On individuality, it's more difficult to do this with someone like Michael Jackson, but even listening and cross checking his composition credits reveals a lot of trademarks unique to him that was consistent throughout his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 @Disco Stu You like Charles Mingus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Nick Parker said: @Disco Stu You like Charles Mingus? I'm really only familiar with three albums, but yeah I like him. I have Mingus Ah Um, Charles Mingus Presents Charles Mingus, and The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady (of course, it's a Jazz 101 album). This is 100% my favorite single recording by him. This is an all-timer for me. Nick Parker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Listening to one of my favorite albums of all time. Herbie Hancock is better than everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Who knew?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 The greatest thing ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Better than Star Trek! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 On 10/31/2018 at 7:44 PM, Disco Stu said: I'm really only familiar with three albums, but yeah I like him. I have Mingus Ah Um, Charles Mingus Presents Charles Mingus, and The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady (of course, it's a Jazz 101 album). This is 100% my favorite single recording by him. This is an all-timer for me. All about this one. Nick Parker and Sharkissimo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 You're talkin' my language, Grey! There's a ton of Mingus I can throw in, but I'll just do one for now. Or if you prefer a more to the point, in your face rendition: This tune can produce some moist eyes if I'm in a certain mood. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Happy to see one of my favorite albums of the year, John Hollenbeck's "All Can Work," get nominated for Best Large Ensemble Jazz Album Grammy. Check this Kraftwerk cover. All Can Work by John Hollenbeck Large Ensemble Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,513 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Nice. It reminds me of Carla Bley. I like the Hammond B3, underneath everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Holy fuck this arrangement. I'm in awe. It just melts me away. Dick Hyman - Autumn Leaves It's this really cool blending of a mannered, classical (very Russian) piano style with a dreamy jazz ballad. Wonderful! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Today’s bike ride listening. Some red hot groovin’ soul jazz. The band is LOCKED IN together. The interplay is amazing John Patton - Blue John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 McCoy Tyner's Tender Moments is one of my best-loved jazz albums. I revisited it early this week. Tyner put together a nonet for the record, which is maybe my favorite type of jazz combo. For me it's the perfect balance between the intimacy and personal interplay of smaller groups with the incredibly satisfying chordal timbres and intricate arrangements you get with big bands/large ensembles. It's also pretty unique in that a third of the nonet is taken up by the low brass; Tyner employed a trombone, a french horn, and a tuba. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Disco Stu said: McCoy Tyner's Tender Moments is one of my best-loved jazz albums. I revisited it early this week. I'm not a fan of Tyner, but this sounds interesting to check out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 6 hours ago, Nick Parker said: I'm not a fan of Tyner, but this sounds interesting to check out! He’s not an idol of mine or anything but he did make a couple more VERY large ensemble (but not big band) recordings in the 70s that I just love. Incredibly ambitious and interesting records. Definitely check this out if you’re interested in orchestral jazz that isn’t just nostalgic pops arrangements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 I didn't know there was a jazz thread! Been listening to some University of North Texas performances, they're great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Disco Stu said: He’s not an idol of mine or anything but he did make a couple more VERY large ensemble (but not big band) recordings in the 70s that I just love. Incredibly ambitious and interesting records. Thanks for the recommendation! Are you familiar with Wayne Shorter's All Seeing Eye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 The father of Bossa Nova has died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,511 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 On 7/7/2019 at 4:19 AM, Alexcremers said: The father of Bossa Nova has died. A pioneer who helped set waves that would directly shape so much music afterwards. At least we still have certain luminaries such as Nascimento and Veloso among us. A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Louis Cole & Genevieve Artadi with the WDR Big Band cc @Nick Parker Nick Parker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 6 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Louis Cole & Genevieve Artadi with the WDR Big Band cc @Nick Parker Oh hell yeah! I checked out Knower a couple of years ago, they have a great sense of humor while keeping the the badass integrity of their tunes in tact. Weird how the WDR Big Band is _the_ big band of the last 20 something years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I didn’t realize Siri had come on while I was talking to my sons and it somehow took this "command" to mean I wanted to listen to Dave Brubeck And you know what? I did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 Excellent album, a must among the musts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,513 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Oh, wow, Jerry; a computer knowing what you want to listen to, before you do. That's cute fucking scary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 25, 2019 Author Share Posted August 25, 2019 It must be an old computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Lalo Schifrin's jazz arrangement of Aaron Copland's "El Salon Mexico." Worlds collide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 34 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Lalo Schifrin's jazz arrangement of Aaron Copland's "El Salon Mexico." Worlds collide! I can't check right now, is that from his Jazz Meets the Symphony series, or is it a different arrangement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Nick Parker said: I can't check right now, is that from his Jazz Meets the Symphony series, or is it a different arrangement? I’m pretty sure it’s the same arrangement but an earlier recording. The one I posted is from the 1965 album “New Fantasy” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Fantasy I’m fairly certain he just reused that arrangement for the 2005 album “Kaleidoscope: Jazz Meets the Symphony 6.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 25 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I’m pretty sure it’s the same arrangement but an earlier recording. The one I posted is from the 1965 album “New Fantasy” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Fantasy I’m fairly certain he just reused that arrangement for the 2005 album “Kaleidoscope: Jazz Meets the Symphony 6.” Just checking now. So for the 1965 recording he wrote it for the usual big band-ish ensemble he was doing at the time (see albums like "Gillespiana"), whereas the 2005 one, as I suspected, is more a straight-up orchestral piece in line with the rest of the series, utilizing strings, woodwinds, etc. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: Just checking now. So for the 1965 recording he wrote it for the usual big band-ish ensemble he was doing at the time (see albums like "Gillespiana"), whereas the 2005 one, as I suspected, is more a straight-up orchestral piece in line with the rest of the series, utilizing strings, woodwinds, etc. Right right. He added orchestration, but it’s essentially the same adaptation of the original structurally. Nick Parker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Right right. He added orchestration, but it’s essentially the same adaptation of the original structurally. Ah okay, I didn't know what changes about a minute and a half's difference between the two videos would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: Ah okay, I didn't know what changes about a minute and a half's difference between the two videos would be. Longer solos! Nick Parker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Well, since we're on the subject of Schifrin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: Well, since we're on the subject of Schifrin. I bought that album at an actual record store when I was in my late teens just because I wanted to hear Dizzy's take on "Desafinado." My one bossa nova hot take is that the definitive version of that song is the Getz/Byrd recording not the Getz/Gilberto one. Nick Parker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I bought that album at an actual record store when I was in my late teens just because I wanted to hear Dizzy's take on "Desafinado." My hot take is that the definitive version of that song is the Getz/Byrd recording not the Getz/Gilberto one. You filthy rat! I think my favorite Jobim tune is Dindi. Is "Desafinado" yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Jazz Impressions Of Black Orpheus by the Vince Guaraldi Trio My first step into a larger world... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 For @Bespin hopefully this video will play in Canada Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 Nice thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Have had this performance stuck in my head: My favorite version of the tune is from Bernie Worrell, though: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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