A24 4,333 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 It's a silly question, Jay. Why even bother to answer it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,362 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Boredom? A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 A likely story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: Anyone else think 4:3 TVs will make a comeback? Absolutely! As soon as Kubrick rises from the grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 I disable all TV post processing tricks myself, but I did experiment with different settings when I first got my most recent Sony panel. Tbh, post processing technology on higher end sets has come on along way since the weird Spanish soap opera look of crude motion processing on older TVs, and in the case of my own Sony TV I was actually very impressed with how authentic a faux (interpolated) 48 or 60fps refresh was reproduced. I last tried it with Stranger Things, and it was really quite amazing how 'hyperrealistic' the image was in motion. But a lifetime of muscle memory will still make it a viewing adjustment which is difficult to get used to, to 'accept'. I think Peter Jackson faced this problem head on with his 48fps Hobbit movies. He failed there, sadly, but I still appreciated his attempt to force a shift. Decades and decades of 24fps film motion is not easily undone by the viewing eyes, even if on a technical level the higher refresh results do yield the potential to be superior to older juddery film frame rates in every respect. It's something PC gaming enthusiasts have already become well accustomed to for many years. Indeed higher frame rates are strived for. In that medium, 60fps motion is the norm, and even 120fps is an enjoyed option (it looks absolutely phenomenal). It's not uncommon to read complaints on forums from high end PC gamers, unhappy that a silky smooth gameplay presentation can be suddenly and extremely jarringly broken by a cutscene which is only rendered at 30fps. It can be genuinely unpleasant to drop back down to 'juddery' motion from a 60+ refresh, after a while. To that end, I don't think the old film frame rate/post processing book is closed yet. Holko and Nick1Ø66 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 24 frames per second is my preferred framerate for anything but VR porn. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 In Australia, we have 25 fps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 51 minutes ago, Quintus said: I disable all TV post processing tricks myself, but I did experiment with different settings when I first got my most recent Sony panel. Tbh, post processing technology on higher end sets has come on along way since the weird Spanish soap opera look of crude motion processing on older TVs, and in the case of my own Sony TV I was actually very impressed with how authentic a faux (interpolated) 48 or 60fps refresh was reproduced. I last tried it with Stranger Things, and it was really quite amazing how 'hyperrealistic' the image was in motion. But a lifetime of muscle memory will still make it a viewing adjustment which is difficult to get used to, to 'accept'. I think Peter Jackson faced this problem head on with his 48fps Hobbit movies. He failed there, sadly, but I still appreciated his attempt to force a shift. Decades and decades of 24fps film motion is not easily undone by the viewing eyes, even if on a technical level the higher refresh results do have the potential to be superior to older juddery film frame rates in every respect. It's something PC gaming enthusiasts have already become well accustomed to for many years. Indeed higher frame rates are strived for. In that medium, 60fps motion is the norm, and even 120fps is an enjoyed option (it looks absolutely phenomenal). It's not uncommon to read complaints on forums from high end PC gamers, unhappy that a silky smooth gameplay presentation can be suddenly and extremely jarringly broken by a cutscene which is only rendered at 30fps. It can be genuinely unpleasant to drop back down to 'juddery' motion from a 60+ refresh, after a while. To that end, I don't think the old film frame rate/post processing book is closed yet. Solid post. HFR with HDR will eventually become SOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I really liked that rear projection TV in that episode of Seinfeld about the handicap spot. TVs were huge back then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 46 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: TVs were huge back then! Thank god for flat panels! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Suddenly big screens didn't look quite as big anymore without the bulkiness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Now we're looking at a screen instead of a closet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 So I was looking at a 65" Philips OLED at the store. There was a demo playing that also had some Hollywood movie excerpts. A salesman asked if he could help me. I said that the typical demo footage looks good but that the movie excerpts look terrible. I asked if I could bring along a movie myself to play it in the store. The salesman took a USB stick out of his pocket and said, no need, I have Dunkirk on this stick. Guess what? It looked horrendous, probably a lousy 500MB file. Look at the faces of the actors, I said, all smeared out. It looks like early VHS. He agreed and said that next time I should bring my own movie to the store. JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Do you have any 4k films? Ben Hur was restored to 8k so it should look great on everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 No, I don't have anything on 4K, but if a film on Blu-ray doesn't look great on a TV then I won't be buying it. I don't want a TV that only produces a great picture when you play 4K demos or 4K movies on it. All the stores here are selling TVs on the basis of those high contrasty 4K demos and the reason for that is because they make every TV look like the best thing ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 For sale in my neighborhood: Seller claims it's the best Trinitron Sony ever made! Only 90 Euro! Come and get it, folks! Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Someone needs to put it in a museum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 it is a museum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 The seller is exaggerating there. That doesn't look quite like the last one Sony made. Probably a few years older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Alex said the best one, not the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 The best one was the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Not in The Matrix movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I finally took the plunge. It's coming next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 About the integrated B&W sound system: In short: The best sound ever coming from a TV! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,362 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 That TV looks awesome, Alex! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Thanks, Jay! It was the Black Friday price and the 500 Euro Payback promotion that finally made up my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 My 65" LG TV, a 2012 model that I've owned for six years, finally stopped working last week. Best time of the year to be TV shopping. I suppose I could get the mainboard repaired, but I don't know how much longer it would last. I also don't like having a 105 pound television in rental units that I can't wall mount. So I will junk it, and a newer 55" Samsung is on order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Only 6 years old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 It was also an open box floor model, so I got it minus remote (I already own an older version Harmony), instructions, 3D glasses, and the Wi-Fi receiver. It would likely have been on all day for almost a year before I bought it. Its time was gonna come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,362 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I've had excellent luck with Samsung TVs! The 42" I purchased in 2010 is still running strong, though its in our basement now as we have a 55" TCL in the living room now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 My 65" OLED arrived and I'm floored! Old movies do show their age a little bit more now though ... BTW, Ambilight is really fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 What does ambilight add to the experience exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 It's too early to tell but this is what Philips says: "Ambilight. Take the emotion beyond the screen. With Philips Ambilight, movies and games feel more immersive. Music gets a light show. And your screen will feel bigger than it is. Intelligent LEDs around the edges of the TV cast on-screen colours onto the walls and into the room, in real time. You get perfectly tuned ambient lighting. And one more reason to love your TV." At first, I wasn't really interested in Ambilight (I thought I was going to leave it off), but it's fun to see how it adapts to the surrounding wall to the tones of the lighting of the shots. But I really need to see a couple of movies with Ambilight before I can give my final thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Fun because he paid hard cash for it. If someone else 'ere was saying they'd got a TV with Ambilight, Alex would dismiss it as a distracting gimmick. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 My thoughts exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Checking some ordinary DVDs. Black Swan doesn't look good, Vicky Christina Barcelona is doable while Mike Leigh's Happy-Go-Lucky looks surprisingly good. It's really nice to see the room's lighting being adjusted to a scene. I have it on movie mode with most enhancements switched off or on 'minimum. This makes a world of difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Was tempted by a 55 inch LG 4K HDR....only 600$ Even their lower line of TV's have great pictures But I'll wait next year to replace my 2010 TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 I like mine so far. I need to teach my remotes to crosstalk so I don't need three to watch anything. Looking forward to getting a USB hub so I can play Steam Link games right from the TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 You people are buying TVs with mood lighting now, yet you criticize me because I enjoy Sony Trinitrons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Just checked the image quality of Better Call Saul (Ultra HD) on my 65" OLED .. Holy schiit! WTF?! R.I.P. Plasma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Annoyingly, Saul on Netflix doesn't output in HDR, which is a stupid missed opportunity for the distinctive contrast theming seen in that show. Netflix puts out all the Marvel content in HDR, but trust them to skip it on something I actually want to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Alexcremers said: R.I.P. Plasma Plasma is the new Trinitron! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 12:34 AM, Alexcremers said: Just checked the image quality of Better Call Saul (Ultra HD) on my 65" OLED .. Holy schiit! WTF?! R.I.P. Plasma You pulled the trigger Congrats. A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Just bought this TV. which seems the best bang for your buck TV right now. https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x900f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 What size? I had a Sony but it died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 55 inch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 You have to sit right in the middle with this one though ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 For a single man, this is not a problem. As you know Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Alexcremers said: You have to sit right in the middle with this one though ... I saw the demo in store and the viewing angles are a lot better than I expected .Doesn't matter if I'm slightly off center on my couch I used to be an IPS panel fan for the viewing angles but apparently VA's are better for HDR because the native contrast ratio is way better The cheaper Sony X800E uses IPS and has better viewing angles but according to the reviews can't display HDR contents as intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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