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STAR WARS general thread

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It's better to have watched the first two to get a better understanding of the characters and to be more emotionally invested in this rollicking ride.

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I ended up doing a bunch of shopping today for various things, and realized it was Force Friday immediately upon entering many stories. Like Kohls just had a ton of stuff. There is so much Star Wars merchandise available now, its amazing. Saw a bunch of cool shirts, the stuff now is way better than anything we had in the 90s when I was a teenager actually really into this stuff.

They're really merchandised the shit out of this franchise - I mean, it wasn't just toys by any means; I saw salt and pepper shakers, bed sheets, lamps, beach towels, water bottles, bbq tongs, just all sorts of stuff.

Seemed like it was half Episode 7 related, 40% OT related, and 10% prequel-related, maybe less. I can't imagine Ep 7 stuff will sell all that well before anyone's even seen the movie?

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From what I'm hearing, the stuff is flying off the shelves. The Midnight Madness was a disaster because stores didn't have enough stock to meet demand. The action figures were bought up immediately. This didn't happen when the prequel toys were released, especially The Phantom Menace. There was too much stuff. Don't you remember this:

We wouldn't see the movie for like a month, but we bought Darth Maul and Ric Olie toys.

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There was way too much Episode I merchandise sold back in 1999. Way too much. I see the same level of commercialized crap going on with this movie. I don't remember buying a lot of it, but my mom gifted much of it to me because I liked the earlier films. Most of it was crap. Vader bodywash, Threepio bandaids, pens with all the cast, Jar Jar watches. Lots of t-shirts. I did start a collection of all empty Episode I Pepsi cans, but they were dumb to display, then cumbersome to store in garbage bags, then we just recycled them. I don't recall seeing as much merchandise for Episodes II or III.

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There was still a lot of stuff for II and III, but I think they learned their lesson from TPM. So much of that stuff was put on clearance and ended up at the dollar store.

I don't like the majority of the stuff I'm seeing for TFA. No Han or Luke figures to be found at present and that's what everyone wants. Since Disney bought Star Wars, none of the merchandise interests me. It's rare that I see something I like anymore, although I did get a latex Salacious Crumb and an adorable Chief Chirpa doll.

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I don't really collect all that excess SW merchandise anyway. Aside from art books, making-of books, soundtracks and the odd DVD or LD.

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I much preferred the Star Trek Playmates toys in the 90s. If I could just go back in time and tell the child version of myself to hold onto that electronic Tricorder.

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I don't really collect all that excess SW merchandise anyway. Aside from art books, making-of books, soundtracks and the odd DVD or LD.

Yes! The finer stuff!

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Doesn't sound like people went quite as nuts over this side of the pond. However, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the Disney store on Oxford Street had been stormed and stripped of all of its TFA stock.

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I only have bought three things: Titanium Series First Order Star Destroyer, Titanium Series Milennium Falcon (EP7 version), and Titanium Series Resistance X-Wing.

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I own the normal Imperial Star Destroyer in that series. I had no idea how much its resale value now is. Holy cow.

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I don't really collect toys anymore, but I was kind of interested in picking up a Black Series Rey + BB-8 set, assuming it looked as good to me in-person as it did online. Both Target and Wal-Mart were sold out of all action figures, of course, so I'll just have to wait. I did pick up a BB-8 shirt to wear for my race over the weekend, but that's the only in-stock thing that tickled my fancy.

Episode I was a disaster, marketing-wise, but only because the movie was so poor. The fact that stock is so low currently is a sign that franchisees have learned their lesson from Episode I - because, yeah, everybody could find every action figure all the time, but then two years later Ric Olie was still clogging up the pegs.

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I'm no toy expert but the new Force Awakens figures look pretty lousy. They look pre-Phantom Menace (toy) bad. I guess they were going for a "retro" look but it didn't work and they look like generic knock-off figures you'd find in a Dollar General recycling bin.

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Yep. They also brought back Micro Machines, but the sets look lousy and only come with one figure!

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I think the Black Series 6" figures all look great, IMO, although I've only seen Chewbacca in person from this most recent wave. Hasbro's focus with the 3 3/4" figures has moved to a more kid-friendly approach - simple articulation, focus on main characters and troopers - and for the most part I think that's a good move.

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I'm no toy expert but the new Force Awakens figures look pretty lousy. They look pre-Phantom Menace (toy) bad. I guess they were going for a "retro" look but it didn't work and they look like generic knock-off figures you'd find in a Dollar General recycling bin.

There are quite a few complaints in regards to the quality of the toys especially the vehicles. I don't think they captured the likeness of Rey and Poe but like you said, they may have been going for the old school look. The paint job on some of these figures look rushed, too.

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From a recent interview with Ridley Scott:

"I enjoyed making The Duellists so much that I decided, with David Putnam, that I’d do Tristan and Isolde. I was in LA to show The Duellists and David said, there’s a film called Star Wars at the Chinese. I can get two tickets, do you want to go? I think you should go. We went to an afternoon performance at 2:00, I was eight rows from the front with David Putnam. I never saw or felt audience participation like that, in my life. The theater was shaking. When that Death Star came in at the beginning, I thought, I can’t possibly do Tristan and Isolde, I have to find something else. By the time the movie was finished, it was so stunning that it made me miserable. That’s the highest compliment I can give it; I was miserable for week. I hadn’t met George at that point, but I thought, Fu*k George.

Absolutely seminal for me, that first one that George Lucas directed. So creatively brilliant that he decided to make it the flip side of the coin to 2001, and it certainly became the flip side of Alien which I would do two years later. George made a fairy tale story, with a princess, the young prince, and the cynical Harrison Ford playing Han Solo. To me, it was an absolutely perfect rendition of a great comic serial. I learned to draw from comic strips, the better ones. I always remembered the early Supermans were better drawn than the later one, and the early Tarzans were spectacularly well drawn, the anatomy of the jungle was great. There’s artistry in comic strips and George was obviously a devotee of that and what he did was brilliant."

Alex

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Everyone always talks about the Star Destroyer opening and how earth-shatteringly spectacular it was when it came roaring overhead. I wish I'd been old enough to see and appreciate what has clearly become a legendary moment in cinema, I always try to be there for such landmark moments but alas I was merely days old when people queued to see Star Wars.

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I saw the movie for the first time at home, but that Star Destroyer also left me quite an impression. I can only imagine what it was like in the theatre more than 10 years earlier

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There should have been more exposition making that clear then, even though I hate exposition LOL. And what was with that score? Constant planing triads, Holst and Stravinsky lifts... ugh! Can't he do anything else?

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