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Disney World is my favorite place on earth. 4 parks, 2 water parks, Disney Springs, Disney Boardwalk, and a never ending amount of resorts that are as beautifully designed as the parks themselves.

And you like Always and John Williams?

I think E.T. And Elliott just found himself a girl!

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Haunted Mansion Holiday is just the worst.

It's ok. But if you only go to Disney every few years and you happen to hit the holiday season it means you don't get to see the real HM. (Which is my favorite ride. Star Tours was third.)

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I thought a similar thing when watching Star Wars fairly recently, how I felt parts were comparable to the prequels. Luke's poor acting, the humour between R2D2 and C3PO (which made me surprised at the reaction to Jar Jar, perhaps nostalgia plays a big part or the breakthrough in visuals).

I agree. People clearly love those films mainly because of nostalgia. R2 and C3PO are very much like Jar-Jar, and Hamill is basically just a 77 version of Christensen.

The movies really aren't that great, when you don't look at them with rose-tinted glasses.

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I don't think it comes down to a superior performance. I mean, the performances aren't bad, but no one in Star Wars (1977) gave a particularly strong performance. Dare I say even Guinness and Cushing were going through the motions a bit there. Everyone got better after that one, even James Earl Jones, who was a bit hammier in the first one.

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The difference probably comes down to something like charm or charisma. You can describe it but not really define it. I think the original film had a certain simplicity, it's confident and lacks pretense. It knew what it was doing and you can trust the tone and the storytelling so you're happy to go along for the ride. The main characters have an affability and a sense of humor, they may not have a lot of nuance but you generally like spending time with them. You feel like you could hold a conversation if you were to meet any of them.

The prequels, you were never quite sure exactly what movie George was really trying to make. It's hard to give in to those flicks, it's either too goofy or too serious, too much or not enough and you surely never related to the people you were watching. Always questioning their decisions, integrity, intelligence, the way they behave and socialize isn't convincing and doesn't remind you at all of real life. Nobody has any joie de vivre, except Jar Jar. But let's be honest with SUH's comparison, we'd all rather have Threepio around because at least he's fairly self-aware and shuts up when people ask him to. What the hell would you talk to Qui-Gon or Padme about, anyway? If you made a joke would they understand? It'd be totally awkward, it's actually unpleasant to imagine...

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Is Lucas really saying that he wasn't able to do what he wanted with the Prequels?

As for being sad that Lucas is no longer involved with Star Wars....

No!

The last 3 films he made were terrible. The franchise was pretty much dead in the water. Only excistsing as a few cartoon series and the expanded universe.

There was talk about a live-action Star Wars TV show after ROTS, but that never went anywhere.

Lucas no longer had the energy or inclination to do anything with the franchise. So it's good that it's now passed to a new generation of film makers.

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Meh. What a bunch of nostalgic fanboys. C3PO is no better than Jar-Jar.

Remove the rose-tinted glasses, guys. These films were never great.

So why did all of the grown ups in 1977 think they were terrific?

Hamill acted like an 18 year old from Modesto. You've met people like Luke. I've never met anybody like whatever Christensen was doing. They might have been aiming for the same target, but Hamill hit and Christensen missed.

I remember audience laughing at Star Wars. Not so much at the prequels.

I know I have a lot of nostalgia for Star Wars. That doesn't change that it was considered a terrific movie from the git go.

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Prior to the Disney acquisition of Lucasfilm, the Clone Wars animated show was a smashing success, the now-canceled video game 1313 was highly anticipated, Star Tours was updated at the Disney theme parks, the movies were being released in 3D and a new live action series was being developed. It wasn't dead in the water! Lucas simply lost interest in it because, well, why shouldn't he have? He's like super old and has a hot wife. Disney came along and wanted Star Wars, and the choice was clear. Cash out of this kiddie space opera.

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