Bilbo 3,709 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Jay said: George doesn't run Lucasfilm any more. But they're still sticking to his word. Filoni mentioned how he and George worked out how to bring Thrawn into the canon. Stuff like the Ysalamiri were abandoned because George said they wouldn't work in the universe. I'm certain that if he didn't want Mara Jade then they'd leave him out and Filoni said fans shouldn't expect to see her. Loads of what's happening in SW at the moment is because of George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Eh, if you say so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Of you say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max 141 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Soundtracks for Season 1 and Season 2 will be released later this month. Season 1 will be released on September 16 and will have 28 tracks, while Season 2 will be released on September 30 and will have 33 tracks. I hate that they didn't release soundtracks for individual seasons of The Clone Wars. I'm doing a rewatch of the series now, and I have a greater appreciation for some of Kiner's work, especially in the later seasons. (The officially released soundtrack contains several tracks from Season 1 of the show, which aren't as good as those from later seasons. I feel like the tracks released on Kiner's website do a better job at representing the series, but there are still a ton of great cues unreleased.) The score for Rebels Season 1 annoyed me with its heavy (and unnecessary) use of Williams' themes and melodies, but there were some standouts in my opinion, like the Season 1 finale. I hope those cues make it onto the soundtrack. Season 2 was better overall, with several standouts throughout the season culminating in that amazing finale, which is hands down the best scoring I have ever heard from Kiner. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they include those cues on the soundtrack. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 475 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Interestingly Season 2's episode "Wings of the Master" contains the track "Hera Soars", which is clearly based on Horner's "Rocketeer" (especially starting at 0:56): This episode aired only a few months after Horner's death, so maybe it was meant to be an hommage to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 That's a pretty bad Rocketeer ripoff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Jay said: Racketeer Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Autocorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 KK often incorporates other composer's themes in his music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 He slipped som ET (keys theme) in one of the episodes from this season. I spent several seconds trying to identify which Williams' star wars score it belonged to! XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said: He slipped som ET (keys theme) in one of the episodes from this season. I noticed that too. Very confusing; no clue what that was doing there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 2 hours ago, Pieter_Boelen said: no clue what that was doing there. It has a vaguely threatening feel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 5 hours ago, Fennel Ka said: It has a vaguely threatening feel? Why the heck doesn't he write original music that sounds threatening then? That Rocketeer reference sounds very awkward, like a thinly veiled copy of the original that just comes off as clumsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 6 hours ago, Fennel Ka said: It has a vaguely threatening feel? I suppose.... Does anyone have a clue if he's doing it on purpose as homage? The Rocketeer bit would make sense for that. But the ET bit not so much.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 He successfully scored six seasons of The Clone Wars with very sparing reference to JW's themes (by design, IIRC at George Lucas' behest). The mission for Rebels was nostalgia and the producers asked him to be highly referential of Star Wars music - it's everywhere. I think the Rocketeer reference was intentional, and cited in interviews at the time on StarWars.com episode guides or their Rebels Recon video series as such. I don't know if the ET reference was intentional or coincidental, and TBH I have no idea what "Keys' Theme" is, although I'd know a snippet from ET if I heard it. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Keys theme: https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PL3090DCF4B8C53249¶ms=OAFIAVgQ&v=LV4WN-B3EC4&mode=NORMAL Compare to the clip at 2:09 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SBCRl1R6Fno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 4 hours ago, mstrox said: He successfully scored six seasons of The Clone Wars with very sparing reference to JW's themes (by design, IIRC at George Lucas' behest). The mission for Rebels was nostalgia and the producers asked him to be highly referential of Star Wars music - it's everywhere. I think the Rocketeer reference was intentional, and cited in interviews at the time on StarWars.com episode guides or their Rebels Recon video series as such. I don't know if the ET reference was intentional or coincidental, and TBH I have no idea what "Keys' Theme" is, although I'd know a snippet from ET if I heard it. That is exactly what makes me wonder if indeed it WAS intentional. It would certainly explain a lot. But if so... then, why? It certainly isn't obvious to me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Kiner was better in TCW when he didn't have JW as a crutch. Then again, TCW was a better show anyway. DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 He had Horner and others as a crutch then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Yeah but he used them a lot less frequently. I guess JW is more life support than a crutch. The use of Leia's theme in Spark of Rebellion ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I think the ET reference was made to insert a familiar Williams sound without ripping off music from Star wars directly. It fooled me...i thought it was from the OT! for one minute Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,892 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Keep in mind that Rebels and TCW use a lot of temp scoring. References to themes by JW and other composers probably aren't done as a homage, the producers probably told him to put them in there. I think I remember hearing in an interview a long time ago that every scene in TCW was temp tracked. Not sure how much they temp tracked Rebels, but I'm sure it's quite a bit. DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCJ 394 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Is there anyone else here who actually enjoys the score to Star Wars Rebels? If so, I have created a document to list all of the released music: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/14eRZVEtAvn3wdmatIdHzqWJYcS71ZclhvFV4UKJ3A4U/htmlview# Comments, corrections and other feedback are of-course very much welcome. Tiburon and curlytoot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, CGCJ said: Is there anyone else here who actually enjoys the score to Star Wars Rebels? No. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I enjoyed the two OST's in a guilty kinda pleasure brain turned off kind of way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I thought Kiner was a bit better in TCW where he couldn't use JW as a crutch but since then? The Leia quote in the very first episode just soured the whole thing for me . DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I wouldn't be surprised if some of it is Filoni and co.'s fault as well though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,892 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 On 10/29/2016 at 1:21 AM, Manakin Skywalker said: Keep in mind that Rebels and TCW use a lot of temp scoring. References to themes by JW and other composers probably aren't done as a homage, the producers probably told him to put them in there. I think I remember hearing in an interview a long time ago that every scene in TCW was temp tracked. Not sure how much they temp tracked Rebels, but I'm sure it's quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,386 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 In the latest episode Twin Suns the episode ends with a character on a dewback. Right before the music goes into Binary Sunset (or the second half of The Princess Appears to us LP fans) there is a quick little mysterioso bit. It's like a total of four notes. I think it's a Williams quote. I had thought it was the beginning of The Jedi Steps, but it's not. It might be a prequel cue which would be why I'd be less familiar with it. OTOH, it might be from Jaws. Any ideas? Oh, and I enjoy the daylights out of the Rebels scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicCobb 194 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 What are you referring to? The music before Luke's theme or the music before the Force theme? The former doesn't seem to be a direct quote of anything though is reminiscent of a few different TFA things. The latter is straight from the original cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Sounds like the Rebel Fanfare to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicCobb 194 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Yeah I hear that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,892 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 It's quite obviously a callback to Luke's secondary 'motif' from ANH which was reused for TFA. Rebels does not use music from any of the films, every piece of music is original (minus re-recordings). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,651 Posted March 21, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2017 This isn't about the score, but I really liked the most recent episode, from Spoiler the appearance of Obi-Wan through Spoiler Darth Maul's noble end . Tiburon, rpvee and Pieter Boelen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I see what you did there! rpvee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicCobb 194 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 On March 21, 2017 at 1:04 AM, Manakin Skywalker said: It's quite obviously a callback to Luke's secondary 'motif' from ANH which was reused for TFA. Luke's secondary motif? On March 21, 2017 at 1:04 AM, Manakin Skywalker said: Rebels does not use music from any of the films, every piece of music is original (minus re-recordings). If you talking purely recordings I think that's pretty obvious as the quality is nothing near that of the original orchestral recordings. Original is a strong word to use those when there are so many direct quotes in the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,892 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 5 hours ago, DominicCobb said: Original is a strong word to use those when there are so many direct quotes in the music. That's why I said "minus re-recordings". 5 hours ago, DominicCobb said: Luke's secondary motif? Yes. Luke has a very short 'motif', if you can even call it that. Just a few light flute notes. It appears throughout the original trilogy, mainly just in ANH. It appears again prominently in TFA as the 'map motif'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicCobb 194 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 16 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Yes. Luke has a very short 'motif', if you can even call it that. Just a few light flute notes. It appears throughout the original trilogy, mainly just in ANH. It appears again prominently in TFA as the 'map motif'. Timestamps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlytoot 97 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 On 3/14/2017 at 9:18 PM, CGCJ said: Is there anyone else here who actually enjoys the score to Star Wars Rebels? If so, I have created a document to list all of the released music: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/14eRZVEtAvn3wdmatIdHzqWJYcS71ZclhvFV4UKJ3A4U/htmlview# Comments, corrections and other feedback are of-course very much welcome. This is great! Thanks for doing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,892 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 4 hours ago, DominicCobb said: Timestamps? I don't have the time to just sit around watching the film for timestamps. Go find them yourself, they should be easy enough to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Well, here's a nice answer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Specially since it seems to be a theme that really not many people had noticed before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 @Rose Dawson will like what they've done with the music in Rebels: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,386 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 That was strangely affecting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Moreso than the actual episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I have no idea what I just witnessed. So Disney Star Wars is now ripping off Titanic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicCobb 194 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 17 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: I don't have the time to just sit around watching the film for timestamps. Go find them yourself, they should be easy enough to hear. Haha wow sorry wouldn't have asked if I knew you would be a dick about it. For most people on the site it's not a very hard request, considering the fact that you don't need to watch the film, you just need to be familiar with the soundtracks which I would have assumed you were. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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