#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 There is only one John Williams.Gia should be kept away from Star Wars though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Desplat? Couldn't be happier. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Wow, what a way to break the news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Bring it on. Never expected Johnny and I'm perfectly content with him just doing the main series. I don't really have any interest or expectation for the spin-offs at all, so the whole fun of it for me is to hear what another composer could bring to Star Wars, without having to worry so much about the continuity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Very intriguing choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 According to the hardcore fans, John Williams is ageing backwards, ala Benjamin Button, and has committed to scoring every Star Wars film in future existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 This is one of the good things about these spin offs, top hear other composers' take on this universe. Williams, as long as he is able, will score the main trilogy, I'm sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I was getting sick of Williams's SW music anyway. Time for some new blood that's three decades younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I'm not surprised.Alexandre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I suspected that the spin-off were to be scored by an other composer than John Williams and it's okay.I still wonder about the relevance of these spin-off, this choice may confirm that they will not be for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I have no interest in this film (or The Force Awakens, for that matter). But wouldn't mind hearing some Star Wars music from Monsieur Desplat. He's always cited the original 1977 score as a major influence on him so it's great to see him make his mark in this world. I'm pretty sure he's well excited for this.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,313 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Desplat seemed an obvious choice.Giacchino must be feeling a little down about missing the gig though, but I guess Kathy Kennedy is giving her directors a certain degree of pull in the crew they want (barring the main stories, it seems, where Williams has first right of refusal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I just hope they are all 'forced' to honor the broad melodic lines and don't make this into another monochromatic blockbuster sound (if there are no Williams themes for this specific part of the universe). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I just hope they are all 'forced' to honor the broad melodic lines and don't make this into another monochromatic blockbuster sound (if there are no Williams themes for this specific part of the universe).Well, they might be forced to honour prequel sound, too. Is that still good enough for you? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I just hope they are all 'forced' to honor the broad melodic lines and don't make this into another monochromatic blockbuster sound (if there are no Williams themes for this specific part of the universe).Well, they might be forced to honour prequel sound, too. Is that still good enough for you? KarolI guess so....i can delete the action music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 At least here we can be pretty sure the score will be performed by the LSO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Ha!So it's possible we'll have Episode 7's score be by John Williams but not the LSO, and then the first spinoff the LSO but not John Williams Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I hope Desplat can unleash himself fully on this score and make some thunderous music! And hopefully with LSO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Truth to be told, it's exactly the thunderous music i dread the most... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Truth to be told, it's exactly the thunderous music i dread the most... Too prissy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I wonder if Williams was even asked to score the spinoff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1_freeze 131 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I wonder if Williams was even asked to score the spinoffI mean seriously, what is this question?Why bother asking the best, and famous composer around who (just by accident) happened to have scored all seven starwars films. Ever heard of professional courtesy? Even if the composer of such a long franchise sucked they would have asked him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I don't think Williams generally agrees to do any project this far in advance of its release date (18 months). He might have said he couldn't commit to it until he saw a rough cut, and Edwards might have wanted a composer signed on before then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Truth to be told, it's exactly the thunderous music i dread the most... Indeed!I wonder if Williams was even asked to score the spinoff I mean seriously, what is this question?Why bother asking the best, and famous composer around who (just by accident) happened to have scored all seven starwars films. Ever heard of professional courtesy? Even if the composer of such a long franchise sucked they would have asked him.Oh please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Williams could have made it clear he was only interested in doing the main trilogy (and possibly only the first film of the trilogy) and nothing else. Williams expressed interest in TFA about 2 years ago and before he was officially announced to score.I wonder if Williams was even asked to score the spinoffI mean seriously, what is this question?Why bother asking the best, and famous composer around who (just by accident) happened to have scored all seven starwars films. Ever heard of professional courtesy? Even if the composer of such a long franchise sucked they would have asked him.Technically, there will be 8 Star Wars films by the end of the year... The Clone Wars got a theatrical release and, therefore, is considered a Star Wars film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Nobody really cares about that film Once and Sharkissimo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 True, but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Very interesting about Desplat getting the gig. His overall sound is definitely more "Star Wars" than Giacchino's, even if his melodies aren't all that memorable. I predict a score that will, at the very least, serve the film well and fit comfortably within the existing Star Wars soundscape. Whether it'll be anything I want to listen to on its own remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 His overall sound is definitely more "Star Wars" than Giacchino'sHmmm, you really think so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 It's just closer to Williams in general. It has a certain 'concert music' rhetoric to it. At the risk of sounding incredibly snobby, Gia still sounds like he's writing for television. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I hate to say it - I really enjoy some of his music, and from what little personal interaction I've had with him, he seems like a great guy - but I agree. Part of it is just the way their scores tend to be recorded and mixed. Desplat's HP scores (my main point of reference withim, I admit) have a polished, modern, clear-but-not-dry sound to them that's pretty similar to the way Williams' scores have tended to sound since the early 90s. Giacchino favors a drier, dirtier, smaller sound that works well in certain contexts...but it doesn't sound like Williams. In terms of their approaches to composition and orchestration, neither composer is especially similar to Williams, but I'd say Desplat is closer here, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Those Giacchino recordings are a thing of the past, now that Dan Wallin has retired. His scores recorded by Joel Iwataki (Star Trek Into Darkness, Dawn of the POTA, Jupiter Ascending) sound much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Jeremy Soule is the next John Williams, if anyone is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I admit I haven't heard the latter two, Jay, but to my ear, STID still sounds pretty consistent with Wallin's approach. I suspect that some of it is just inherent to the way Giacchino writes, but I couldn't feel too certain about that unless I heard, say, one of his compositions recorded by the LSO with Williams supervising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 You need to listen to Jupiter Ascending immediatelyhttps://open.spotify.com/album/6S1qMRbhIUgVmbQKberauG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Definitely a wetter sound...it's a step in the right direction. The writing itself is still pretty distinctively Giacchino, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 Fitting, since Desplat is the first film composer to win against himself for a best score Oscar since......well, Williams and Star Wars! Jay and Sharkissimo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 With Di$ney milking their new cashcow for all its worth in the next years, pretty much any halfway established composer could get near this franchise. I mean, Hans, welcome to the ST universe....One of his pet directors will do a STAR WARS film at one point, no?Truth to be told, it's exactly the thunderous music i dread the most... Too prissy?See me regularly excising all the action music from recent releases because they offer nothing than aural stress and seldom feature any throughline. Thank you, i listen to CAPRICORN ONE instead, 20 minutes of action music and i still find something new everytime i listen to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 There are like three composers who consistently write good action music these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Please don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 That's the part where you tell us who you think they are.EDIT: Let him speak, pub! It'll be fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Please don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Your pathetic begging only makes me more inclined to slap you around with the truth, but I can't be bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I had 'the truth' opened in Audition for hours last week. it was a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Come on, TGP. I need to know before I die! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Zimmer, Powell, JNH. They're hit and miss like anyone else, but less so than anyone else writing regularly. They're the only ones who seem able to not get locked into repetitive patterns that shift up a fourth or something every 8 bars while they figure out what the hell to write next. There's Shore, but I wouldn't say he writes regularly. Desplat and Giacchino still have harmonic shackles to break out of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Turn it down!! It's too darn loud!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 JNH's action music in Waterworld and The Fugitive is great!! Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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