Fancyarcher 350 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 They won't overhype this one a bit, when it turns out to have nothing to do with the plot, no sir-re. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 This is one of the many things I dislike about Abrams. If he feels so strongly about it, why didn't he do it himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 LGBT is very important these days. They are about 40% of the population. Manakin Skywalker and Will 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 2 hours ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: This is one of the many things I dislike about Abrams. If he feels so strongly about it, why didn't he do it himself? Because LGBT would be anti-Star Wars. It's why the Finn/Poe relationship is so light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Publicity photo of Snoke in a new pose: Spoiler Looks much better than TFA's model but still not exactly photo-real in the way Davy Jones and Gollum were. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Looks like Sin City's Yellow Bastard (the flesh-colored bastard?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Looks like an undead Hugh Hefner. Matt C and Incanus 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Still not on the same level as Hobbit-Gollum. Although he looks weird removed from his natural setting - in a dark throne room, I guess he'll look a little more convincing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 If the concept art is to be believed, Snoke doesn't inhabit a dark throne room. Quite the opposite actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I still think Snoke's design is fucking boring. As for Laura Dern's character, she'll probably barely be in the movie. Those things have way too many characters. And I think they're separating Poe and FInn storyline wise on purpose. And they aren't going to do a Legend of Korra thing because the franchise is scared of EVERYTHING. I don't even know if there's somedy in Lucasfilm with a robust, clear, overarching idea of what to do and explore with those movies. Τhey even said they didn't have a plan for the trilogy... Will and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Snoke was the weakest link in TFA. He's a substitute Palpatine for the sake of needing a dark lord in the shadows! I can see the remnants of the Empire needing a strong figure to pull the strings from behind the scenes, but I don't understand why they didn't just make a villain that needn't be mystical, old and deformed and one that is just a strong character upfront. Why do I get the feeling that they think a convincing villain must be reduced to used-up stereotypes at the risk of having a one-note, big baddie? 41 minutes ago, Brónach said: I don't even know if there's somedy in Lucasfilm with a robust, clear, overarching idea of what to do and explore with those movies. Τhey even said they didn't have a plan for the trilogy... That was my problem with having three different directors. With the Harry Potter series, we ended up with the stale Yates at the end to round out the series, and for all the flaws present in his handling of those stories, at least they're consistently devoid of magic and wonder and any semblance of colour. He also had the books to take from, but here with this new trilogy, not only do we have a carousel of directors with different sensibilities, but the "Brain Trust" doesn't even have a plan! John and toothless 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I think the "not having a plan" can also hurt character interactions or romance storylines. Hence when they mention the "gay character" thing I just snort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 3 hours ago, Brónach said: And they aren't going to do a Legend of Korra thing because the franchise is scared of EVERYTHING. wat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Brónach said: I think the "not having a plan" can also hurt character interactions or romance storylines. Hence when they mention the "gay character" thing I just snort. Gay people on Disney's Star Wars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 "news" Bilbo and mstrox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 27 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Gay people on Disney's Star Wars? There are a whole bunch of queer characters in Disney's new-canon literature, too - books as well as comics. One of them -Doctor Aphra - stood toe-to-toe with Vader for the 25-issue length of Kieron Gillen's run, and now has a monthly ongoing of her own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 45 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Gay people on Disney's Star Wars? The moral guardians there don't like us much. The problems might steem with different folks in the production having different ideas and different levels of moral guardian-ness. That would be awkward. It's kind of like featuring red-head heroes (different, attractive, used as symbolic short-hand for stuff) and can spice up character dynamics, but this trilogy I think doesn't have anything romantic going on. Besides maybe FInn and the new girl. In fact the general tendency now is that heroes are isolated or isolate themselves and might die at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Even Plinkett noted that these new movies are weirdly sexless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Rogue One really drove that point home In fact I think most of the idea of seeing gayness here stems from the scenes that have had the most chemistry between actor/characters, which happen to be only Finn/Poe and the quips between Chirrut and Baze I mean Daisy and Adam Driver were great together and K2 is awesome, but those couldn't have any sort of implication like that... (I really like Rey's creepy interrogation scene) And then there's Finn asking id she has a boyfriend, which really just sounds dumb in the context of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I like the lack of sex. They're space movies for kids. Even the old movies with their one-dimensional crush on Leia because she's a pretty hologram were extremely modest. Not that I'm defending TFA in any way, but the lack of a romance was not an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Keep sexual politics out of Star Wars please! stewdog1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 They couldn't even keep super weapon politics out... Actually depolitizing things beyond "kill the nazis" might have been a bad idea in Rogue One, because I still don't understand what the hell were those differences between parts of the rebels that seemed so important but not really. Like for a second I thought it would get explained, Guerrera would accompany them and the conflict but explode in a critical moment making everything worse. But nope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Lets hope Ep 8 will have loads of anti-Trump politics in it! Which wouldn't date the film at all. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 And a 5-second clip of Po's husband embracing him after a battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I think it'd be cool if Poe and Finn fell in love. We could get a love theme called "Poe Dameron and The Stormtrooper." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 7, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2017 Will, John and Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Didn't Episode III prove that George Lucas is a 9/11 Truther? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Order 66 was an inside job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Maybe I'm too pessimist and this one movie will make me feel feelings. Who knows. I think my favourite sequence of those new movies is Finn and Poe escaping together from the ship. A heartwarming action scene from JJ, who would've thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I liked the dynamic between those two characters a lot. However I never got a gay vibe from it for one second. Oh well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 It less than five minutes, it uses less than one to establish how they interact together. That's hard to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Yes, it's very well done. More actual emotion in one scene that all of the Prequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 1 minute ago, BloodBoal said: Nowadays, two men having a good, dynamic relationship = gay. So... Finn and Poe = gay Merry and Pippin = gay Kirk and Spock = gay Albert and Gordon Cole = gay Legolas and Gimli = super gay Batman and Robin = gay Batman and Superman = gay Harry and Ron = gay Frodo and Sam = ultra gay Caesar and Maurice = gay Will Turner and Jack Sparrow = gay Quintus and Stefan = gay John Williams and Steven Spielberg = gay yes no no no no yes no no yes who yes no bi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I'm sure Merry and Pippin showed each other a good time giddy on entdraught and pipeweed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 So... all this time they could have just been friends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Quintus and Stefan = gay Surely you mean "Stefancos and Quintus = gay"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 You two are an item now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Wow! I never said that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Congratulations on your outing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Now just wait one goddamn minute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Reminds me of an article I came across Googling the lady from Fantastic Beasts. This guy just seems desperate to find gayness in the film. http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2016/11/28/fantastic_beasts_has_a_gay_subtext_its_sequels_should_make_it_text.html I'm not trying to offend anyone, but are women (throwing this in there because of women-centric redos such as Female Ghostbusters and Nurse Who) and non-heteros really that desperate to see people like them in movies and TV? Why? I don't watch movies and TV to see anyone resembling myself. It sounds like a vanity thing. Many of my "role models" in these things have been women. I must be doing it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 America seems to have completely politicised sexual identity. Both the left and the right. It's not only slightly annoying, but could be potentially dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 You'd think sex was the only important thing in the world to these people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, Evil-Lyn said: I don't watch movies and TV to see anyone resembling myself. That's because nobody is like you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Interpreting the Colin Farrell/teenage boy subplot in Fantastic Beasts to be a gay thing is very creepy. I didn't take that at all from it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Much like mutants in X-Men, it has always been possible for any minority to see themselves in the world of Harry Potter. Magical people who have to hide who they are from the rest of society and such. And I'm sure Rowling intends a degree of universality where many different kinds of people can identify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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