#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 http://www.xfilesnews.com/index.php/xfiles-news/latest-news/459-new-fight-the-future-soundtrack-to-be-releasedLaLaLand will release Mark Snow's excellent X-Files: Fight The Future in expanded/complete form.While the OST had much of the score, and all of the highlights (save the final cue) on it, it had rather poor sound quality which at times made the orchestra sound like it was synth.According to the producers: This special limited edition release features much improved sound and contains some music not previously released. Also, the incorrectly reversed stereo channels on the original soundtrack release have been corrected here. Produced by Mark Snow and Nick Redman, and mastered by Mike Matessino, this exciting release also contains exclusive liners by writer Julie Kirgo and an updated print interview with Snow conducted by film music writer Randall D. Larson. The soundtrack will be available through the LLLwebsite and other online soundtrack boutiques; only 3000 copies were produced in this limited edition, and it will be sold at a retail price of $19.98.TRACK LISTING: 01) Threnody in X 3:1802) B.C. Blood 2:2803) Goop 4:2004) Soda Pop 4:4605) Quitting* :5306) Already Dead 1:4307) Cave Base 1:3208) Remnants 2:1309) Plague 3:2410) Fossil Swings :5911) Goodbye Bronschweig 2:4112) A Call to Arms :5913) Elders / Crossroads* 2:3514) Corn Hives 3:0615) Corn Copters 2:3616) Out of Luck 1:0117) Stung Kissing / Cargo Hold 4:1318) Come and Gone 5:2919) Trust No One 2:5320) Ice Base 1:3521) Space Hole* 2:14 22) Mind Games 3:5323) Nightmare 2:4524) Pod Monster Suite 5:2325) Crater Hug 2:0426) Facts 2:35Additional Music27) Plague (alternate segment)* 1:2928) Crossroads (album version) 2:20Total Time: 75:48* Previously Unreleased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 HOLY SHIT I'VE GOTTA GET THIS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,612 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,930 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I've never actually listened to this score, apart from few random cues. But I'm familiar with X-Files: I Want To Believe from 2008. While a lot of the synth-heavy material is difficult to enjoy on album, there is some surprisingly tender and lovely material in there - the love and quasi-liturgical "faith" themes are really nice. Certainly, not what I would expect from a film like this: The main theme variations in this one are a highlight of the score: How does Fight the Future compare to this score?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Fight the Future is a bigger score in scope, reflecting the more epic nature of the film. An orchestral/synth combo, but in the action material the orchestra takes the upper hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I'm disappointed that the finale cue isn't included. I only just noticed. FAT gave an explanation that's as good as any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,714 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Why have I not been calling him FAT this whole time? Brilliant!But seriously, I too am disappointed by what's missing. And I too will definitely be getting this anyway. It's chronological and mastered by Mike Matessino and will therefore be glorious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Cant wait to hear this in decent soundquality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 About that missing cue: Ford A Thaxton says My understanding is that this cue was done at the very last second (As I recall the scene in question was a added to the film at the last minute, I could be wrong) and Mark just knocked it out at his studio and sent it over to the dub stage and that DAT or D-88 has vanished in the last 16 years. He didn't have a copy in his archive either. It happens. MV Gerhard says Then why not use the film stem, ala Hook? 1. No room on the cd 2. The studio, producers and composer didn't want to use anything off the stems There were a few odds and ends that could not be found, but the real heart breaker was the final track Mr. Snow did last minute for the film. After nearly two years and thousands of dollars, we had to finally toss in the towel on the search and release it as is. MV and What a loss, that cue is incredible. Doubly so if it's something Snow just tossed off last minute. That's exactly what happened. Initially there was NO music in that scene. Last minute, Carter asked Snow to compose something so they can slap it in the film. He went to his piano and hammered something out and sent it in. That story comes directly from Mr. Snow himself during a conversation I had with him many months ago. Of all people who is bummed it can't be found it's him. Maybe one day it will turn up, but after spending nearly 2 years looking for it (even going through each of his personal DATS dated within a year of the film and tv scores) we had to end the search. MV and I wonder if Mr. Snow will be signing copies like the boxsets? There will be signed copies. It sounds bleepin amazing! The work that Mr Redman, Mike and Neil Bulk did on this is great! Julie's notes are sharp and informative...and Randall's 3 part section (3 different interviews conducted June 1997, May 1998 and April 2014) is fascinating to say the least. And then you have Jim Titus art direction... The cd will be out there soon -- July 29 MV and For your X-scholars out there: Working on this, we did find some unused tracks (not in final film) 5m4 Roadside Memorial - 1:36 6m1a Man in the Shadows - 0:36 The track “Remants” comes between these two cues. At the request of the composer, these tracks were cut from this final release. These are the tracks that ARE in the film, but could not be located for this release... 2m2 Rooftops - :26 3m2 Hole in the Wall - :27 10m1 Bee Collar - :10 15m1 Smoking Telegram - 2:57 As stated before, the only REAL heartbreaker here is "Smoking Telegram" MV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Very cool, I'd forgotten how much I wanted this when the film first came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 You didnt have the OST? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 331 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 It's a shame that Snow is like Williams in regard of nixing cues. Ah well it's bound to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Yep, but I mean a release with good quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Yeah. I've been told that there was a mastering error, which flipped the channels on the OST.The synth parts always sounded better then the orchestral parts to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 That DAT tape might become as valuable as the encrypted file that caused so much pandemonium in the Anasazi/The Blessing Way/Paper Clip episodes. fommes and Dixon Hill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 The show is brilliant, but Snow's music never struck me as anything I felt I absolutely had to listen to outside the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Snow's music for the X-Files movies were terrific. I actually prefer them over the series' scores.Glad a better version of Fight the Future is on the horizon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Thanks to John Takis for pointing this out - someone put the missing cue in question up on youtube (ripped from the rear channels of the Blu Ray) Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Takis 206 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Well, you can thank "Cvalda" for posting it on the FSM forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 The show is brilliant, but Snow's music never struck me as anything I felt I absolutely had to listen to outside the show.I completely the same. The first movie is actually among my favorite Sci-Fi movies, but the music, especially in the show, never really did anything for me. Its good mood music to be sure, but not something I'm compelled to listen to on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 This is up for sale now. Autographed copies already gone.http://www.lalalandrecords.com/Site/X-Files-FTF.htmlhttp://www1.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/27692/THE-X-FILES-FIGHT-THE-FUTURE-3000-EDITION/http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.9065/.f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Whoops, forgot all about this one. Well at least I have one TXF item autographed by Mark Snow, so I'm just happy to place an order for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Bought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 The following order #'s will receive a SIGNED COPY of X-FILES FIGHT THE FUTURE ORDER #'s: 86708 - 86900 Thanks, y'all! See you in a few weeks! MV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,714 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Got myself an autographed copy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Anybody received theirs and listened to it yet? If so, what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I'm listening right now actually. Sounds fantastic, and no glaring omissions (I'm sure that's not true for some people). This is a nostalgia album for sure. Love the development of the theme in the opening cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,714 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 "Smoking Telegram" and the alternate "Pod Monster Suite" are the only extra cues I really wanted from an expansion; well those and the film version of "Teotihuacan," but I can just rip that from the blu-ray End Credits. Seeing as none of these cues are on the new release, it is a bit of a disappointment for me, but I guess I can accept MV's explanation of why the former cue is missing...As for the sound, Audacity's built-in clipping detection shows minor clipping throughout the album, but it's all decent enough to my ears and I'm not really sure how accurate the software is anyway. I mostly bought the album for the chronological ordering and Mark Snow's autograph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 9, 2014 Author Share Posted August 9, 2014 I'm sorry, you judge sound quality by having it examined by a software program rather then listening to it?The sound on this release is far superior then the OST. Not only are the sound-channels oriented correctly but it sounds more detailed, refined and better balanced. Nice to finally listen to Crater Hug without it starting to crackle at the climax!Speaking of crackle, this is a cracking score. Excellent mixture of action music, Gothic epic/horror and 1970's suspense (complete with low paranoid piano registers ala Goldsmith) with excellent and inventive synths.Snow employs a lot of clever orchestrations and instrumentation in both the orchestra and synth elements which never makes this boring. Even though it's a score with a lot of low rumbling suspense/atmospheric music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,714 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 I'm sorry, you judge sound quality by having it examined by a software program rather then listening to it?Failed assumption. I judge an album's sound based on listening and on my first listen of this album, the crescendos simply sounded too loud to me. I would never have pulled the tracks up in Audacity if they had sounded perfect to my ears right off the bat.I have listened to the album twice since my last post and better sound equipment has made it clear that most of my initial criticisms were unwarranted. You can indeed hear a lot of detail on this release that was not as noticeable on the Elektra album, especially in the strings and on the piano. That said, there are also some details that seem a little more buried in the mix to me -- some of the background instruments near the end of "Threnody in 'X'" for instance. This isn't really a problem, it's just something that will take some time for me to get used to.And I'm still lamenting that missing cue at the end. I have always loved "Facts" and it really does work better where it is now than where it was (just before "Crater Hug"), but it seems very anticlimactic when positioned at the end of the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I haven't listened to the new release yet, but I read the entire booklet the other night. Jim Titus's art direction is top notch once again, I absolutely love the plethora of pictures included throughout on all the pages. I haven't seen the show at all (or either movie) since it left the air, so it was nice to see the whole cast again.The main liner notes by Julie Kirgo were a nice read, learning a little bit about the development of the show and how it lead to the movie, and the approach Snow took to scoring it. Couple nice anecdotes shared, like that Bernard Hermann gave Mark Snow his baton the day before he died (which also happened to be the final day of the recording sessions for his final score [Taxi Driver]).However, the interview with Mark Snow portion by Randall Larson at the end of the booklet repeated a big error multiple times which drove me nuts!Julie's portion of the notes correctly note that the movie was shot between seasons 4 and 5, and was released between seasons 5 and 6, with the season 5 finale and season 6 season premiere dovetailing into the movie's storyline.But then you get to the Randall Larson section, and it states there at least 4-5 times that the movie was between seasons 6 and 7! This includes Randall asking Mark a question about how he approached the season 6 finale and season 7 premieres as a result of the movie's score! And Mark responds as if those where the right seasons! Too bad this little booboo wasn't caught by anyone, because it's a pretty big one. Oh well.Can't wait to have time to listen to it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Incompetent fools! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 Aspergers, Jason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I've already emailed LLL for an RMA so I can return my defective copy. I can't have something with such a heinous typo sitting on my shelf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 This is now on sale for $14.98 at La-La Land's websitehttp://www.lalalandrecords.com/Site/X-Files-FTF.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,272 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Was about to buy this but glad I read this thread first! That Finale cue is one of my favourites from this score, disappointing to hear it couldn't be found. I would've been so bummed if I discovered that when listening to the set. That said, this release was 6 years ago and they've done quite a few X-Files releases since. Wonder if those elements ever turned up? No doubt Disney will be logging everything from Fox's archives during the acquisition, but OTOH that acquisition makes a potential V2 of this score unlikely from LLL (which really sucks, given the handful of missing cues on this version). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Disney owns The X-Files... that just doesn't compute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,272 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 It's hard to wrap your head around, isn't it? Doesn't fit under their brand at all... And I can't see it going on Disney+ anytime soon (or Disney commissioning another season to close things off, especially with Anderson walking away). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Disney doesn't deserve a man like Moulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,714 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 3 hours ago, crumbs said: Doesn't fit under their brand at all... And I can't see it going on Disney+ anytime soon More likely they'd stick it on Hulu with their more adult content. 3 hours ago, crumbs said: or Disney commissioning another season to close things off, especially with Anderson walking away I mean, if Seasons 10-11 taught us anything, it's that Chris Carter either can't or won't make an ending to this series. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Only 7 copies left in stock, then it's OOP! https://lalalandrecords.com/x-files-the-fight-the-future-limited-edition/ https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=147177&forumID=1&archive=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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