Makeshift Python 22 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Either some have not seen CRYSTAL SKULL or they're being over dramatic. I just never cared for Temple of Doom. I was referring to those who don't include CRYSTAL SKULL in the rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Either some have not seen CRYSTAL SKULL or they're being over dramatic. I just never cared for Temple of Doom. I was referring to those who don't include CRYSTAL SKULL in the rankings.Ah I figured you were saying the opposite and that anybody putting it anywhere other than last was being dramatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 1. Temple of Doom2. Raiders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,041 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Fuck the hate, Short Round is a child sidekick done right. When he gets chained to mine, he doesn't wait for Indy, he takes the initiative to free himself then break Indy from the spell. And he can kick ass! Yeah, I actually enjoy Short Round's presence in TOD. It's Willie who drives me up the walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 The problem is not the characters per se, rather their incessant screaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Yeah. Willie's wailing remains the major reason I haven't gone back to TOD. That and the overblown Indian stereotypes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I liked her in that red dress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 TIE: ROTLA & TLCKOTCSTOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Ooo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Risky!1. Temple of Doom2. RaidersAnd the other 2?Your dislike for TLC is well documented. (the tie)But do you rate KOCS higher or lower? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Risky!amh1219 likes to live on the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Johnny B. Goode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Risky!1. Temple of Doom2. RaidersAnd the other 2?Your dislike for TLC is well documented. (the tie)But do you rate KOCS higher or lower?I basically don't care about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,119 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Release order.RaidersTempleCrusadeSkull Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Risky!1. Temple of Doom2. RaidersAnd the other 2?Your dislike for TLC is well documented. (the tie)But do you rate KOCS higher or lower? I basically don't care about them.Indifference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 TOD - ROTLATLCKOTCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Short Round, for me, is the most annoying character in cinema history.Oh my god is that actually CGI out of the movie? It looks worse than Xbox graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Raiders of the Lost ArkIndiana Jones and the Temple of DoomIndiana Jones and the Last CrusadeIndiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal SkullSo yeah, they get progressively worse. I'm not so emotionally attached to this series, though.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I can see his point. Man-child Spielberg had an USP that man Spielberg lacks a bit.Man-child Spielberg's USP was too similar to Lucas's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Raiders of the Lost ArkThe Last CrusadeTemple of DoomKingdom of the Crystal SkullI enjoy them all, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I can see his point. Man-child Spielberg had an USP that man Spielberg lacks a bit. Man-child Spielberg's USP was too similar to Lucas's.The skill per minute ratio difference between the two ultimately made them vastly unalike, though. Young Spielberg ran circles around any era Lucas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I don't think Spielberg had USB ports back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Short Round, for me, is the most annoying character in cinema history.Oh my god is that actually CGI out of the movie? It looks worse than Xbox graphics.From what I can tell, the image is overexposed and stuff.But yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,041 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Yeah. Willie's wailing remains the major reason I haven't gone back to TOD. That and the overblown Indian stereotypes. To be completely fair, none of the Indiana Jones films are squeaky clean when it comes to racial stereotypes, even my beloved Raiders. But TOD certainly flaunts it a lot more deliberately than the others. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Risky!amh1219 likes to live on the edge.Damn straight!Who?No, that's someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I can see his point. Man-child Spielberg had an USP that man Spielberg lacks a bit. Man-child Spielberg's USP was too similar to Lucas's.The skill per minute ratio difference between the two ultimately made them vastly unalike, though.True. Different strokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Temple/RaidersCrusadeRaiders scene on the Great Movie Ride at Disney WorldIndiana Jones Stunt Show at Disney WorldIndiana Jones Adventure at DisneylandIndiana Jones Diet Coke commercialYoung Indiana Jones with the guy from Suicide Kings who fucked up his face with plastic surgeryBasically anything Indiana JonesCrystal SkullShort Round is the greatest sidekick of ALL TIME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I've been watching Count Duckula on DVD for the last few weeks and even on kids' TV in 1988 to 1993, there were racial stereotypes. Thankfully I have the DVD because I don't think they air repeats anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,041 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Oh yeah, you don't have to go back far at all to find some positively cringeworthy stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Yeah. Willie's wailing remains the major reason I haven't gone back to TOD. That and the overblown Indian stereotypes.To be completely fair, none of the Indiana Jones films are squeaky clean when it comes to racial stereotypes, even my beloved Raiders. But TOD certainly flaunts it a lot more deliberately than the others.That's true, but where it's fun in Raiders, I find it excessive in TOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Oh yeah, you don't have to go back far at all to find some positively cringeworthy stuff.But I would never change a frame in Count Duckula! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temple Raider 3 Posted September 4, 2014 Author Share Posted September 4, 2014 I never got the criticism of TOD being racist. Wouldn't Raiders and TLC also be racist against Germans for portraying them as Nazis, or KOTCS for having Russians as Soviets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I never got the criticism of TOD being racist. Wouldn't Raiders and TLC also be racist against Germans for portraying them as Nazis, or KOTCS for having Russians as Soviets?Erm no. False analogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Racism against whites doesn't exist!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temple Raider 3 Posted September 4, 2014 Author Share Posted September 4, 2014 I never got the criticism of TOD being racist. Wouldn't Raiders and TLC also be racist against Germans for portraying them as Nazis, or KOTCS for having Russians as Soviets?Erm no. False analogy.They're still pretty negative stereotypes, though. And absolutely can be racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I can see his point. Man-child Spielberg had an USP that man Spielberg lacks a bit. Man-child Spielberg's USP was too similar to Lucas's.The skill per minute ratio difference between the two ultimately made them vastly unalike, though. Young Spielberg ran circles around any era Lucas.Says the man with Lucas as an avatar, portrayed as the heroic visionary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makeshift Python 22 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 TEMPLE OF DOOM is looney, but I don't think it really comes off offensive as some of the films it was inspired by, like GUNGA DIN with its warm-hearted racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I never got the criticism of TOD being racist. Wouldn't Raiders and TLC also be racist against Germans for portraying them as Nazis, or KOTCS for having Russians as Soviets?Erm no. False analogy.They're still pretty negative stereotypes, though. And absolutely can be racist.Portraying the Wehrmacht as Nazis and the Soviet Armed Forces as... Soviet, is RACIST? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I never got the criticism of TOD being racist. Wouldn't Raiders and TLC also be racist against Germans for portraying them as Nazis, or KOTCS for having Russians as Soviets?Erm no. False analogy.They're still pretty negative stereotypes, though. And absolutely can be racist.Portraying the Wehrmacht as Nazis and the Soviet Armed Forces as... Soviet, is RACIST?To avoid promoting generalizing negative stereotypes Spielberg should have also shown the wide range of German and Soviet experience. The good German and the good Soviet person/people.Because e.g. Toht is not at all caricature of a Gestapo officer in a way that would offend any German person, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I felt offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Serves you right, Fritz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 You shut up or we invade you again. Sharkissimo and Gnome in Plaid 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 You've already done so with the Euro!You kraut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I can see his point. Man-child Spielberg had an USP that man Spielberg lacks a bit. Man-child Spielberg's USP was too similar to Lucas's.The skill per minute ratio difference between the two ultimately made them vastly unalike, though. Young Spielberg ran circles around any era Lucas.Says the man with Lucas as an avatar, portrayed as the heroic visionary!I already told you my avatar usage is ironic the other day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 sstttt...whetever happens in the PM's, stays in the PM's!Sweety.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temple Raider 3 Posted September 4, 2014 Author Share Posted September 4, 2014 Portraying the Wehrmacht as Nazis and the Soviet Armed Forces as... Soviet, is RACIST?To avoid promoting generalizing negative stereotypes Spielberg should have also shown the wide range of German and Soviet experience. The good German and the good Soviet person/people.Because e.g. Toht is not at all caricature of a Gestapo officer in a way that would offend any German person, no?Portraying them in a historical context obviously isn't, but in fiction (as the IJ films are) they could be be taken that way by some. In Raiders and TLC we don't exactly see any good Germans and same with KOTCS, we don't see any good Russian characters. Not to mention both are pretty bad stereotypes that could easily be seen as offensive by some. At least in TOD we see the good Indian people that Indy is helping to balance out the Thuggees.For the record, I've got some German and Russian in me, and Raiders/TLC/KOTCS don't offend me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Do we have any Indian members here? Maybe they can tell us if it's still OK to watch TOD!For the record, I've got some German and Russian in me,Threesome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Was there any love lost between the Wehrmacht and the SS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Damn Goebbels prodigies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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