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I have a quick TOS question:

In the one with Joan Collins (I think it's called CITY ON THE EDGE OF FOREVER), Kirk and the gang were told that events had to play out as they originally had and Collins had to die. So...why did this not happen in ST:IV? What impact would bringing the whales to the 23rd century have for the Earth? Why didn't someone remind the crew about the events in COTEOF?

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Maybe the sudden and unexplained disappearance of George and Gracie, whom nobody even kept track of, was the ultimate cause of the total whale extinction in the first place!

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Eh, some people like it, some people don't.


It's slower paced than all the movies that followed in the franchise


Glorious score, of course.

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TMP is a fine film, it takes some cues from better films and doesn't pull them off as well, but it's still good, and certainly better than any Star Trek content that's been released since 2002.

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1 minute ago, Nick Parker said:

No joke, I sent that article to a friend like five minutes ago and now I have a wingman for that in September. He said he's going to dress up as the space cloaca, which has no meaning for me as of yet. 

Get ready for penetrating the orifice.

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6 minutes ago, Dieter Stark said:

My favorites are V and Generations.

 

V was the first one I got on tape and I watched it a million times. I even had a tee with the Klingon on it. I was surprised to learn years later that it was hated.

 

Having not seen V, could you remind me again why so many dislike it?

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1 hour ago, Dieter Stark said:

 

It seems like pretty much every reason you can think of besides the music, although if Uhura singing counts, there's that too.

 

Uhura sang on TV in the rather good TOS episode Charlie X. Her singing in a movie isn't any reason for its ire. 

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I'm pretty sure that this has been discussed, elsewhere, but...I believe there would be issues with remastering all the (then) new CGIs.

The shot inside V'ger where the bit which connects the Enterprise nicelle to the main body, is missing, still wasn't corrected.

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3 hours ago, Richard said:

I'm pretty sure that this has been discussed, elsewhere, but...I believe there would be issues with remastering all the (then) new CGIs.

 

Yeah, a lot would have to be redone from scratch.

 

On 7/29/2019 at 3:59 PM, Richard said:

STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE is the best damned Star Trek film, ever!

That's official.

 

None of them really capture the magic of the show (I tend to think FORBIDDEN PLANET is what the real Star Trek film), but TMP has an artistry and message which at least mark it as an earnest effort.

 

 

I do like this fan 22-minute edit (even though they replaced the music) (though it does work here):

On 7/29/2019 at 3:37 PM, Jay said:

Glorious score, of course.

 

No doubt! Probably the only film score I listen to more than any JW score.

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TMP is remarkably like an Original Series episode, probably because it evolved from the Phase II pilot. Every time the Ilia probe appears, I expect a cheesy crescendo and a fade to commercials!

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TARANTINO: I’m a big fan of the show Star Trek. I really like it a lot, but my portal into that show is William Shatner. I love William Shatner on Star Trek. I love his performance as James T. Kirk. That is my connection. That is my umbilical cord. It’s why I like Star Trek more than Star Wars, because William Shatner’s not in Star Wars. I think it’s one of the greatest performances in the history of episodic television, of a series lead, and rightly so, because very few series leads have ever gotten the opportunity to play all the different wild, crazy things. “The Enemy Within” alone…


Source: Quentin Tarantino On ‘Once Upon A Time,’ ‘Star Trek’ As ‘Pulp Fiction’ In Space – Deadline


He’s spot on, in my opinion!


I love this, too:

 

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TARANTINO: Well, it’s an idea then we got together and talked it out and then we hired Mark Smith, who did Revenant to write the script. I don’t know how much I can say. The one thing I can say is it would deal with the Chris Pine timeline. Now, I still don’t quite understand, and JJ can’t explain it to me, and my editor has tried to explain it to me and I still don’t get it…about something happened in the first movie that now kind of wiped the slate clean. I don’t buy that. I don’t like it. I don’t appreciate it. I don’t — fuck that…I want the whole series to have happened, it just hasn’t happened yet. No, Benedict Cumberbatch or whatever his name is is not Khan, alright? Khan is Khan. And I told JJ, like, “I don’t understand this. I don’t like it.” And then he was like, “Ignore it! Nobody likes it. I don’t understand it. Just do whatever you want. If you want it to happen the exact way it happens on the series it can.”

 

TARANTINO: The reason I was actually intrigued by the JJ Abrams version of it is because I thought Chris Pine did a fantastic job not just playing Capt. Kirk but playing William Shatner’s captain — he is William Shatner. He’s not just another guy, he’s William Shatner’s Capt. Kirk. And it’s literally, Zachary Quinto is literally Leonard Nimoy’s — because they both have the same scene together — he’s his Spock. They fucking nail it. They just nail it.

 

Source: Quentin Tarantino's Star Trek Movie Is Set In the Chris Pine Timeline

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QT has to understand that Star Trek as a franchise got over Williams Shatner decades ago now. The most prolific era of Star Trek happened in the 90's. Not a lot of James T. Kirk there.

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