JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 On 12/8/2015 at 10:05 PM, TheGreyPilgrim said: I enjoy the film and score so much. It seems like neither get a fair chance from most people. It has some good moments and it has even more terrible moments. Good....the opening, the Enterprise B, Bad...where to start. The villain. Retread story using Georgi's visor....again, yawn. the death of the Enterprise D by an 80 year old BoP. Of course the worst is the terrible fight between Picard, Soran, and Kirk with Kirk's less than noble death. Oh my. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Picard wasn't in the final fight with Soran because Kirk always knew he'd die alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 But...he didnt! Not that I consider that an error. No one knows how he will die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 The awkward Generations final confrontation in a canyon was more like something out of crappy action movie of the era, not a Star Trek film with three old guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 4 hours ago, Joey said: Kirk's less than noble death. I know, dying to save a nearby planet populated by millions (who we never get to see, but that's beside the point) wasn't all that noble at all. Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 No. It was a noble death that aligned with the values of Starfleet: self-sacrifice to save the greater good. The fact that the movie unnecessarily killed the series' greatest hero in an unnecessary crossover was the bad part. Other beloved characters' fate were left ambiguous. I think the two rebooted movies are payback for fan backlash against Generations. They threaten Earth instead of just a nameless planet we'll never see again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Q: You hit me! Picard never hit me... Sisko: I'm not Picard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 3 hours ago, Drax said: I know, dying to save a nearby planet populated by millions (who we never get to see, but that's beside the point) wasn't all that noble at all. it was a death unworthy of Kirk, and worse Picard buries him by covering him with rocks when he knew he would be rescued soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, Joey said: it was a death unworthy of Kirk, and worse Picard buries him by covering him with rocks when he knew he would be rescued soon. What death would be worthy of Kirk? And put yourself in Picard's mindset at that moment. History recorded Kirk dying a hero saving the Enterprise-B. To suddenly inform Starfleet that he had Kirk's corpse, fresh from death only hours beforehand, probably wouldn't have been appropriate. He perhaps felt it would have been too upsetting to have to rewrite the history books like that. As a result, I think he kept the whole Kirk element to his story to himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Saving the Enterprise twice (let's count the B as being his first "death") and countless other people in the system wasn't worthy of Kirk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 Joe's getting confused because Kirk died in a mediocre film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 You mean Joe is getting mediocre because Kirk died in a confusingly great film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 That makes a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 We will not debate my profound wisdom at these proceedings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 Because yours is the most... human? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 So we're watching In Theory, the episode where the cute engineer chick rebounds straight to Data. My woman wants to know if he can actually have sex. I respond yes, he is fully functional (it's okay if you forget The Naked Now). "What's he squirt in there, battery acid?" I'm not... I don't know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Well, he did cry something in Generations when he found Spot, which I always thought really ripped off the scene where Tik Tok cries oil in Return to Oz, although that could have been a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Generations ripped off The Mind's Eye as well. It was the in thing. I personally feel stupid that I only noticed that Netflix is showing the remastered TNG episodes about ten ago. The Enterprise looks stunning. The shot in Reunion with her and the three Klingon ships made me giddy. I'd buy this if Netflix ever yanked it. Though now that I think of it, Borg cube repairing itself in Q Who looked pretty neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I know, I just realized that as well! Seeing DS9 in Birthright was life-changing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I'll get there in about two weeks or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 http://consumerist.com/2016/01/19/raiders-of-the-lost-walmart-have-no-idea-how-much-star-trek-ds9-toy-costs/ Tough little ship. Must've been cloaked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 That's a steal. Would be three figures on the secondary market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I think that even the Micro Machines version is valuable. There is a shortage of miniature USS Defiants! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 I'm presently marathoning the Original Series again. I think this has the best aesthetic of any TV show ever. Beside maybe the 1960s Batman, has anyone seen a TV show so richly colourful and dynamic? Star Trek definitely looks better than everything. PS: but that all changed when they made TMP. The rainbow poster would fool you into thinking you'll be watching something as colourful and vibrant as the show, but the bridge of the Enterprise looks dull as dishwater. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 It does everything better! Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 And the uniforms never looked better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I prefer the TNG movie/DS9 season 5-7 uniforms, but I love them all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 Yeah those grey-top uniforms from that era are my second favourite. Followed by the Abramsverse uniforms. The II-VI movie uniforms are interesting but they look awfully impractical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Fuck the Abramsverse! I hate this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 More? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Absolutely not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 And the Enterprise far exceeds that piece of junk the Millennium Falcon at sheer awesomeness. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 It should be hauled away as garbage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 Even the ID4 ships were better than SW ships. I still have my old Trendmasters Alien Attacker. I have got to get me one of these! Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 All SW has going for it is John Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 19 hours ago, Drax said: Pathetic. I agree this thread has become.... Gruesome Son of a Bitch and Unlucky Bastard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 That is because you haven't been properly..stimulated yet. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 You haven't done that in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 I could use a shower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,911 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 I couldn't find this posted anywhere, but there is a 50th Anniversary Star Trek tour like the Star Wars in Concert coming: http://www.treknews.net/2016/01/02/star-trek-ultimate-voyage-concert-tour/ It started a few weeks ago but will tour for the next few months and include 40 foot HD screen and live orchestra performing themes from all the films and shows. Details: http://startrekultimatevoyage.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Over the weekend I delved, tentatively into one of my least watched Trek films -The Motion Picture (Director's Edition). I've not been made on it all these years but I always give it a try and this time I liked it more than before, though it's not endangering Wrath of Khan's top spot anytime soon. Takes forever to get away from Earth -rightly showing off the refitted Enterprise (inside and out), the uniforms are a bit bland and overall it feels disjointed. Like a mix of late second season/third season TOS but focused on the SFX. The perk is Jerry Goldsmith, DeForest Kelly ("Why is every object we encounter called a thing?") and "The Enterprise" scene. And yes, better than the JJ output (for one, this was how you did lens flare) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Old footage from a ’76 Star Trek convention is awkward, hilarious, and really sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 All the Treks except for First Contact are now on Netflix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 What makes FC so snobby that it can't be on Netflicks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 You think I want to go to the Netflix? I don't even like to stream! I watch physical media! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Well you did bring it up. Bipolar much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 On 16 January 2016 at 10:16 PM, Stefancos said: But...he didnt! Not that I consider that an error. No one knows how he will die. Kirk did die alone...twice. He died physically, on the Enterprise B, and again on (enter planet's name here). Imagine Picard trying to log that incident! What Kirk meant was that he would die without Spock, or McCoy (his two best friends in the universe) being present. On 15 February 2016 at 5:11 AM, E.T. and Elliot said: I could use a shower. Yes. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockwave 8 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 5 hours ago, Richard said: Kirk did die alone...twice. He died physically, on the Enterprise D, and again on (enter planet's name here). Imagine Picard trying to log that incident! What Kirk meant was that he would die without Spock, or McCoy (his two best friends in the universe) being present. Yes. Enterprise-B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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