A24 4,326 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 See! It has already started. Let's continue this conversation at JWFan Pro, Thor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 JWFAN Pro keeps on going downhill.Thank god for JWFAN Premium! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,988 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 I couldn't even bring myself to call Prometheus visually "flawless". Clean and crisp, is about as much as I could muster. Which let's face it loads of films are. This one merely kids people into thinking it's more interesting on the eyes because it has modern sci-fi production design, but that veneer has no affect on me.It was guilty of one movie crime... It was simply boring. And all the "questions" and "themes" raised were uninteresting. I remember watching the first 10 minutes with some mild interest. But that's it.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,477 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Inception, a seminal sci-fi film? A reference point? I just don't see it.Sure, many people loved it, but is it considered a classic? I don't think so.It's about as classic as any 5-year-old movie can be. Obviously, more time is required to see a film's proper position.But it's definitely a reference point in popular culture, film literature and general knowledge. Every time I've asked an audience (of young people) about a science fiction film they loved -- or a film score they loved -- INCEPTION is the one that comes up the most often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Don't waste your time Thor! It's still too fashionable to deride any Nolan productions. It'll take several decades for the masses (both the rabid critics and the deluded pseudo-intellectual fanboys) to approach his work with even tempers.I also didn't hate Prometheus but Alex is completely right about why it isn't what it could have been. If Alex likes The Martian, after declaring Interstellar a 2/10 experience, I'll eat my hat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 You didn't hate Prometheus. Did you enjoy it? Did you merely tolerate it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 It has enjoyable elements. It seemed unremarkable and too much of a sequel setup the first time I saw it. I watched it again recently and found it was ok. I'd rather see the rest of that story than more Alien stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 What rating would you give it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Sorry, I don't rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Do you think the movie treats the audience like they are idiots? Some seem to think so. Do you agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Isn't that typical Damon Lindelof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Not with HBO's The Leftovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Do you think the movie treats the audience like they are idiots? Some seem to think so. Do you agree?So many people say that about so many things nowadays. I don't really know what it means. Does that make me an idiot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Yes.You are an idiot the moment you don't know that someone is treating you like an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Wow, that makes you an idiot!But to be serious, I don't really agree. And I don't think that's Lindelof's MO either. Could someone give specific examples of moments where they feel they're being treated as idiots? I don't know the film well enough to recall possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Don't waste your time Thor! It's still too fashionable to deride any Nolan productionsI'm not deriding anything!I'm just doubting the fact that it's considered a milestone in sci-fi cinema (regardless of what I think of the film itself). I don't think it had an influence on the sci-fi genre as a whole, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Well I barely remember this flick, but with Lindelof scripts, it seems to be that shit happens, usually raising questions, we're supposed to accept it and not ask logical questions, typically building toward something that is either never sufficiently explained, raises more questions or is in some way a total letdown, we're supposed to accept it and not ask logical questions. By the end, there doesn't seem to have been any kind of a point to the last two hours of our lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Wow, that makes you an idiot!But to be serious, I don't really agree. And I don't think that's Lindelof's MO either. Could someone give specific examples of moments where they feel they're being treated as idiots? I don't know the film well enough to recall possibilities.I don't remember the lines but the general over-exposition in the dialogue of Prometheus made me want to throw bricks at my TV screen. BTW, Ridley Scott no longer trusts the intelligence of the audience. He actually said so in interviews. This could explain a few things, of course.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 The only part I remember being "spoon feedy" was the presentation that the two main characters give the rest of the crew towards the beginning. Some clumsy writing there. Doesn't help that the dude was a rather stiff, meatheaded actor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 The poor man's Tom Hardy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Heh, he is isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 You mean Holloway? Not only did I hate the character, I couldn't stand the actor who played him.No idea why. He just rubbed me the wrong way. If I was David, I would have spiked his drink too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 The only part I remember being "spoon feedy" was the presentation that the two main characters give the rest of the crew towards the beginning. Some clumsy writing there. Doesn't help that the dude was a rather Steef, meatheaded actor.I find that remark...insulting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 You mean Holloway? Not only did I hate the character, I couldn't stand the actor who played him.No idea why. He just rubbed me the wrong way. If I was David, I would have spiked his drink too.Oh yeah, why did he do that again. I prefer the original Alien. We didn't know who these people were or where they came from, but we understood their actions.Also, the David viral marketing was a ripoff of A.I.'s David viral marketing, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Alien has characters who feel totally natural and realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Scott never took that Ken Loach approach again. I wonder why. Perhaps it was a contribution of Dan O'Bannon?The Ken Loach Approach ... I like the sound of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Rest me to say that I don't quite agree that Alien or Blade Runner are dead serious. Yes, they might not contain actors cracking jokes like probably in The Martian but I can't say that it's Ridley Scott doing very grave and serious science fiction. For instance, in Alien there a moment when we see space and hear classical music. The first thing that comes to our mind is: Aha, the director is doing a little Kubrick thingy here, then we see Ash simply turning of the music he was listening to. It wasn't part of the score at all. To me that's humor too.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,318 Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 Michael Biehn says Neill Blomkamp’s (possibly canceled) Alien movie is about Newt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 All seems like one big tease now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Hey, didn't we joke about that?! It seems the joke has turned into reality ... or a nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 On 1-11-2015 at 4:38 PM, TheGreyPilgrim said: If Alex likes The Martian, after declaring Interstellar a 2/10 experience, I'll eat my hat! Well, you don't have to eat your hat, TGP. I didn't like it. But I thought the film was all right, that is, until the people on Earth were going to bring him back home. From that moment on it was a borefest. It would have been better if the movie was just Matt Damon struggling to stay alive on Mars. That whole NASA "Let's get him back, boys" feeling is simply not interesting. In fact, Saving Private Ryan is a whole lot better than Saving Astronaut Watley. Alex - probably giving up on movies from now on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Filmmakers aren't even that good at filmmaking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,318 Posted April 22, 2016 Author Share Posted April 22, 2016 Neill Blomkamp's Aliens sequel is "worth the wait" says Sigourney Weaver “Well, I think it is. Ridley asked Neill not to make our Alien ’til after ‘Prometheus 2.’ [Ridley] wanted his movie to shoot and be released first. But it’s an amazing script, and Neill and I are really excited about doing it. We’re doing other things until we can get going on that. I’d be really surprised if we didn’t do it, because it’s such a great script, and we love working together. So, it’s just going to take a little bit longer to get out to you, but it’ll be worth the wait.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Another great script, huh. What else is she gonna say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 On 12/26/2015 at 0:57 AM, Alexcremers said: In fact, Saving Private Ryan is a whole lot better than Saving Astronaut Watley. Alex - probably giving up on movies from now on Saving Astronaut Watley is a hell of a lot more fun and has rewatchability something Saving Private Ryan has none of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,304 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Doesn't quite sound dead-in-the-water yet? Here's hoping it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 7 hours ago, Joey said: Saving Astronaut Watley is a hell of a lot more fun and has rewatchability something Saving Private Ryan has none of. You obviously have no respect for your fallen soldiers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 8 hours ago, Joey said: Saving Astronaut Watley is a hell of a lot more fun and has rewatchability something Saving Private Ryan has none of. First hour was rather good but forgettable fluff. The Saving Astronaut Watley part is when the film completely lost me. Too boring and unoriginal for me, Joey, and certainly impossible to rewatch. Alex - who has never seen Joey drool over a Ridley Scott movie before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Doesn't Joe love Alien? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Nah ... Joey only talks about Alien to say how much better Aliens is. Really, The Martian, fun and rewatchable? These are extremely positive comments for Joey. Even if he happens to think that Alien is fine (because it was a good platform for Cameron's superior Aliens), you must admit that this is an unexpected reaction from Joey. I mean, Ridley Scott satisfying Joey ... How the world has changed! Alex - putting disturbing images into people's heads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I bet Joe loves Thelma and Louise too Alex 8 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: Alex - putting disturbing images into people's heads Jason loves Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Joe loves Scott.... Mate, you really have become a bad parody of yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Who cares what you say, steef. You're the town's ... Oh wait, I can say that word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 SPAMBOT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Yeah, that too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I am not a SPAMBOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 You are BloodBoal 2 or he was Stefancos 2. Take your pick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 9 hours ago, Alexcremers said: Nah ... Joey only talks about Alien to say how much better Aliens is. Really, The Martian, fun and rewatchable? These are extremely positive comments for Joey. Even if he happens to think that Alien is fine (because it was a good platform for Cameron's superior Aliens), you must admit that this is an unexpected reaction from Joey. I mean, Ridley Scott satisfying Joey ... How the world has changed! Alex - putting disturbing images into people's heads I just like more than SPR. I don't own either film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Didn't think this project was even on the table anymore. Glad to hear it since, regardless of the recent critical woes of the director, I was looking forward to seeing it. Quintus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,477 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 My views on this project hasn't changed -- I'm skeptical because a) Blomkamp hasn't made a good film since DISTRICT 9 and b) I hate the fact that he's ignoring 3 and 4. On the other hand, I really can't get enough of the ALIEN universe, so any chance to spend more time there is great news. I'm continually torn between these two poles. Whatever Weaver or others say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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