MedigoScan 324 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 On the flipside, there are certain film mixes I prefer over the CR versions in TTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 That glass shall always be half-empty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 I distinctly remember hearing a different version of "Grond - The Hammer of the Underworld" at some point. In it, the rhaita also doubles the diminished Gondor Theme at 1:00 instead of only playing the Sauron's Theme statements. Is anyone else familiar with this? Was it the TE version of the cue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 On 3/8/2016 at 2:41 AM, Gnome in Plaid said: I distinctly remember hearing a different version of "Grond - The Hammer of the Underworld" at some point. In it, the rhaita also doubles the diminished Gondor Theme at 1:00 instead of only playing the Sauron's Theme statements. Is anyone else familiar with this? Was it the TE version of the cue? It's not from the TE, Did you see any of the live concerts? it could have been from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 On 3/10/2016 at 6:43 PM, Faleel said: It's not from the TE, Did you see any of the live concerts? it could have been from that. I haven't seen any of the live concerts. I don't remember where I heard it, but I very distinctly remember hearing the diminished Gondor Theme on rhaita. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 I didn't know where to enquire about this because of so many different topics on ROTK, but I was listening to the CR and when I got to 'The Mouth of Sauron' and 'For Frodo,' I noticed that it was missing the choir section when Aragorn is being tempted by Sauron. Haven't noticed its absence before for some reason, unless I'm having a weird day. At 0:10 - 0:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, leeallen01 said: I didn't know where to enquire about this because of so many different topics on ROTK, but I was listening to the CR and when I got to 'The Mouth of Sauron' and 'For Frodo,' I noticed that it was missing the choir section when Aragorn is being tempted by Sauron. Haven't noticed its absence before for some reason, unless I'm having a weird day. This is sound design and not part of the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Just now, Jim Ware said: This is sound design and not part of the score. Okay, thanks. I suspected that was the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Wasn't quasi the same sound effect used in TTT? God I haven't watched these in ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted September 10, 2016 Author Share Posted September 10, 2016 It's the lady from Plan 9 IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bollemanneke 3,342 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Okay, so now that this thread has ruined my perfect world in which I didn't know how imperfect the FOTR CRS were, here's a question about For Frodo. The OP says that the live to projection cue has several changes. Could someone elaborate? Please don't tell me that they changed any choir-related things before Gollum joins the fray. I want to hear my choir perform the CR version of that portion of heavenly music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 The L2P version is the TE edit with the full choral version of the Fellowship theme from the CR, and added snare as Frodo runs to Sammath Naur bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Great. How do you know all these things? Really impressive. Also, lastly, which version of the Lighing of the Beacons will they play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 1 hour ago, bollemanneke said: Great. How do you know all these things? Really impressive. Also, lastly, which version of the Lighing of the Beacons will they play? Film version (rotk 602d 811h cf813). bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 7 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Great. How do you know all these things? Jim Ware has notes on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 . Gnome in Plaid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 It's a shame so much of "Allegiance to Denethor" is dialed out in the final cut of the film; it's one of my favorite cues in the entire series. Do we know what the four brass chords at the end were meant to underscore? Some transition to leaving the city that was removed when they broke up the scene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 On 20/11/2016 at 0:28 AM, Gnome in Plaid said: It's a shame so much of "Allegiance to Denethor" is dialed out in the final cut of the film; it's one of my favorite cues in the entire series. Do we know what the four brass chords at the end were meant to underscore? Some transition to leaving the city that was removed when they broke up the scene? A transitional shot of Minas Tirith citizens I believe. The 'Pippin's vows' section of this composition was restored for the live to projection performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 This has probably been discussed before, but my one criticism of the ROTK CR's would be the inclusion of the shorter film reveal of Anduril rather than the longer one heard on the OST with the lovely Rivendell choral bit (that leads wonderfully into the Minas Tirith theme). I'm sure there's a good reason for this - namely it offers an alternate - and of course I appreciate that we at least have the former, but I guess since the CR presents an otherwise more complete track I'd have preferred the whole thing here. Anyone else feel this way? I tried to do some kind of edit of the two but it was shit, I didn't have the talent unfortunately (story of my life really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Incanus 5,714 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: I may be remembering wrong, but doesn't the OST track Anduril simply combines the music from the Anduril, Flame Of The West CR track with the Rivendell material from The Grace Of Undomiel? That is my impression as well. There is some alternate material in there as well if I recall correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Well I suppose that would make sense given the length of the Anduril scene (unless something was cut?), but I'm sure there's more than the Grace of Undomiel stuff in there (I take it you're referring to 3:34-3:47 of that track?). Also, lest we forget the Rarities version ('The Muster of Rohan'), which is largely the same as the OST version (minus the big Minas Tirith theme statement), surely suggesting it was intended for the Anduril reveal. Would the alternate version as presented on the Rarities Archive fit the scene? For the sake of ease: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 I did remember wrong: the OST track doesn't combine the music from both scenes. Actually, I looks like the OST track not only offers a longer statement of the Rivendell material, but is also an alternate take/cue. Listen for example to the build-up leading to the Rivendell theme (00:23 on the OST track, 01:44 on the CR track). Though maybe that was also edited out of the CR track... But then, the performance also sounds different to me (maybe it's simply because of the different mix?). Anyway, what exactly are you trying to do? Combine the first half of the CR track with the second half of the OST track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 The OST Anduril track is the same as the Rarity Version of the cue, minus the somber Arwen Dies/Army Of The Dead music interrupting the splendor, and an added Anduril statement, that may or may not have been edited out for the RA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crumbs 14,306 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 I wish the theatrical version of The Last Debate was on the rarities. It's so much more triumphant than the melancholy extended version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jim Ware 526 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 7 hours ago, SafeUnderHill said: Not 'all Shore' or 'co-composed', but edited with another piece? Shore's composition uses elements of Epicalypse. The trailer piece was conducted by Shore and recorded in stems over a single session in late Summer 2003. SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Disco Stu 15,495 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Randomly decided this morning to listen to Disc 4 of the ROTK CR. Is there any more emotionally powerful track on any OST than "The Crack of Doom"? No matter how many times I've heard it, I'm in tears by the end. Quite embarrassing. John and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Disco Stu 15,495 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 It's true. The entirety of the score for that final act and denouement is just perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,351 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Does anybody know this 4-track CD single for Into The West? https://www.discogs.com/release/2635539-Annie-Lennox-Into-The-West I wonder if the "Album Version w/o Orchestra Ending" track could be used to reverse-phase and get the orchestral ending with a clean opening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted September 16, 2022 Author Share Posted September 16, 2022 Yeah, I was able to download it off some shady site a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,351 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Did you try using the last track to reverse-phase and get the orchestral ending with a clean opening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted September 16, 2022 Author Share Posted September 16, 2022 I don't think so, because they don't really overlap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,351 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted September 16, 2022 Author Share Posted September 16, 2022 On the OST and promo the song ends, and then the Wagner ending starts after the last guitar note rings out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,351 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Ah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted September 16, 2022 Author Share Posted September 16, 2022 IIRC the promo just edits it out anyway instead of presenting a true clean end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,351 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Figures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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