#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/681802762/moonraker-new-recording?ref=emailOver the years Tadlow Music has produced scores of new recordings of the music of John Barry incl THE LION IN WINTER, RAISE THE TITANIC, ZULU, THE LAST VALLEY, THE BETSY, MISTER MOSES and 3 CDs of MUSIC FROM THE JAMES BOND FILMS...along with conductor NIC RAINE, they are experts when making new recordings of John's music....so a much requested new recording of MOONRAKER will be certain of the same quality.So to all the JOHN BARRY fans out there who have requested me to record a new complete CD of MOONRAKER....now is you chance to get such a recording done!It's a chance for people to put their money where their mouth is. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 Humor...it is a difficult concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Sweet. About time the soundtrack industry took to Kickstarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Backed. Though I wonder what its chances of reaching its goal are, without any special rewards for higher backer levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Yeah something like a trip to the scoring sessions would have baited more backers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Everything on Kickstarter has to be funded in 30 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 What happens to the money if the goal isn't reached? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 Your card doesnt get charged until the goal is reached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Don't believe them. Don't trust them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 Backed. Though I wonder what its chances of reaching its goal are, without any special rewards for higher backer levels.Film score fans who donate should be given input about track order, orchestra size, orchestration, track titles, the mixing process and cover art! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Backed. Though I wonder what its chances of reaching its goal are, without any special rewards for higher backer levels.Film score fans who donate should be given input about track order, orchestra size, orchestration, track titles, the mixing process and cover art!A thousand micromanagers. Oh joy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 Will 25000 cover the cost of hiring Shirley Bassey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Everything on Kickstarter has to be funded in 30 days. No. That used to be the fixed duration in the beginning, but now they can last longer (at least two or three months). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Film score fans who donate should be given input about track order, orchestra size, orchestration, track titles, the mixing process and cover art! Certainly not. But hires downloads, production videos (if available) and stuff like that might help raise more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Too bad it's just another Bond score or I'd want to contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Are they using John's manuscripts, or is Nic Raine going to do it all by ear again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Everything on Kickstarter has to be funded in 30 days.No. That used to be the fixed duration in the beginning, but now they can last longer (at least two or three months).Then why doesn't everyone do that? Wouldn't a longer timeframe ensure a greater chance of funding?It's already over $3,000 on the first day. It might happen. Someone should post this on some Bond forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I would put up money for a lot of things...but MOONRAKER? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Are they using John's manuscripts, or is Nic Raine going to do it all by ear again?Usually Tadlow uses the manuscripts I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Then why doesn't everyone do that? Wouldn't a longer timeframe ensure a greater chance of funding? I don't know, but I've backed projects with a longer running time. Perhaps it's a default setting, or the conditions vary depending on the timeframe. It's already over $3,000 on the first day. It might happen. Someone should post this on some Bond forums. I wonder what the market for a thing like this is. If we take the minimum pledge for actually getting the disc (20 quid) as the "price" of the CD, you have to sell 1250 of them up front to reach the goal. Though it's nice to see that the average pledge right now is around 80 quid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 It's already over $3,000 on the first day. It might happen. Someone should post this on some Bond forums.The first few days are probably the ones where the money comes in rather easily. It's after that that it gets more difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Someone should post this on some Bond forums.They have, believe me.Are they using John's manuscripts, or is Nic Raine going to do it all by ear again?Usually Tadlow uses the manuscripts I think.It's just Nic Raine and City of Prague didn't for their 3 CD Bond set, presumably because the scores weren't available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,630 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 So it's just for a few unreleased tracks, with the rest performed less well than the original recording Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 with the rest performed less well than the original recording You know this? How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 KM lives in 2003. He still believes the COP is a shit orchestra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I think the COP can be either good or bad, depending on the tactic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 They can also be mediocre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,679 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 They vary hugely on one CD.I guess Fitzpatrick sees all backers as simply advanced purchasers of the CD, but it would certainly be nice to encourage larger donors by offering something more special, like a more prominent credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I hope they spend their considerable talents on something else. A 45-minute Bond score of the, let's face it, middling variety that already had multiple releases doesn't need a new recording. It's a fucking waste of time and resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 I think it has a bit more music then 45 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I hope they spend their considerable talents on something else. A 45-minute Bond score of the, let's face it, middling variety that already had multiple releases doesn't need a new recording. It's a fucking waste of time and resources.It's not the best choice, but I'm funding this to support more soundtracks on Kickstarter. If it works for something like Moonraker, the labels could go to the studios and be like "Look how much money we can get before any work is done." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 And i like the theme and the space music very much but without Bassey for about 15 minutes of really interesting underscore (ast most)? I would say that even AVTAK is a more deserving candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 Bullshit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Probably true but i honestly can't think of a single Barry Bond that should be rerecorded by a conventional symphony orchestra. They either do not offer enough worthwile music for a long cd or use idiosyncratic instrumental choices impossible to recreate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I would say that even AVTAK is a more deserving candidate.Definitely, it's one of Barry's best Bond scores. The arrival at the château, the horse chase, the fight at Stacey's house, the bombastic fanfare for Bond carrying her through the fire, and the elegiac variation on AVTAK for Bond hanging on the blimp's tether rope--all terrific cues worthy of a release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I faintly remember that the film had me noticing the music more than usual for the Moore films, ie OCTOPUSSY which was really fucking boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Yeah, OCTOPUSSY's the pits for Barry. Even THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN is more interesting. Probably true but i honestly can't think of a single Barry Bond that should be rerecorded by a conventional symphony orchestra. They either do not offer enough worthwile music for a long cd or use idiosyncratic instrumental choices impossible to recreate. The earlier scores are more unconventional (I believe Barry had 8 flutes on THUNDERBALL), but it's more the acoustics of the studios, miking techniques, microphone preamps and other aspects of the engineering that gave them a certain magic. Barry had a strong background in production and knew how to get a feverish sound. publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 Probably true but i honestly can't think of a single Barry Bond that should be rerecorded by a conventional symphony orchestra. They either do not offer enough worthwile music for a long cd or use idiosyncratic instrumental choices impossible to recreate.From TMWTGG onwards the Stan Kenton-esque jazz was dropped and his Bond scores became more conventional symphonic works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 So you think it's a wise idea to re-record BOND ARRIVES IN RIO with a czech symphony orchestra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 It was originally recorded with a French orchestra. Whats your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Probably true but i honestly can't think of a single Barry Bond that should be rerecorded by a conventional symphony orchestra. They either do not offer enough worthwile music for a long cd or use idiosyncratic instrumental choices impossible to recreate.Really? You don't think FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE or GOLDFINGER could benefit from a new, preferably complete recording?Yeah, OCTOPUSSY's the pits for Barry. Even THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN is more interesting.So many people say this and I just don't get it. TMWTGG is boring, sure. But OCTOPUSSY is the pits? I mean, yeah it's a little subdued, but what's wrong with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 A standard symphony orchestra would not do very well with the similated jazz parts though. They would need to hire players who can handle that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 So many people say this and I just don't get it. TMWTGG is boring, sure. But OCTOPUSSY is the pits? I mean, yeah it's a little subdued, but what's wrong with it? That isn't to say it's terrible, it's just a bit dull by Barry's standards. There is one cue I really like though, and that's the climax of the 'Chase Bomb Theme' for when panic goes off in the circus and Bond defuses it. TMWTGG has still got some of that Stan Kenton/Bill Russo edge in the brass, and there's some cool wide (microtonal) vibrato that Barry does with the violins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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