publicist 4,643 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 True fans are always a nuisance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 11 minutes ago, TheWhiteRider said: I'd say there's approximately zero chance this isn't the case. Of course, some may prefer it on a purely subjective level, either genuinely or out of a need to be contrarians. Shouldn't be too hard to determine who is who. Of course. It would have to be Williams' magnum opus to top TFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, publicist said: True fans are always a nuisance... There undeniably is an aura of "true fan" around some folks. As someone who prefers, say, A.I. to E.T. and other more modern scores and concert works to the "grand classics" of the 70s and the 80s, I'm well aware that some folks don't think all JWFans are created equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 You aren't a true fan, thats for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Or shall we say, fans that aren't relaxed about their hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I'm beyond good and evil, I'm the Uberfan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 The aiFan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 2 hours ago, KK said: As always, with every new JW score, it's amusing to see folks here screaming the usual "IT'S A MASTERPIECE!!" schtick based on a minute of crappy background audio. Even more amusing is how the film critics are getting dismissed so easily when all they're doing is judging the score's purpose and context in the film, one that no one here has yet seen. But that's JWFan! It's more amusing to see certain folks here screaming the usual "IT SUCKS, IT'S NOT MEMORABLE!!' based on those same crappy clips. That's JWFan. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Just now, hornist said: It's more amusing to see certain folks here screaming the usual "IT SUCKS, IT'S NOT MEMORABLE!!' based on those same crappy clips. That's JWFan. Who said that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 No names... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Sandor, I was naturally exaggerating with that quote, as it was more a reference to the effusive praise that the tiniest snippet gets around here. And anything less than the utmost enthusiasm is met with damnation by the "JWFan purists". Heck, I don't think anyone here has actually said anything particularly negative about the clips (I myself, said I enjoyed it), and already hornist and company have come in to question the true loyalty of JWFan. And just to make it clear, when I said "crappy audio clips" I was referring to the sound quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Well, someone said that it is no memorable. I mean in general people like to be negative here of those crappy clips. First comments of the "jedi steps" clip was like "disappointment, bad, too simple" etc. And what a nice music it is in context. (and me, marcus and few other were the only ones who said it johnny's) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 There's true fans, and then there's twats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 The difference is in very minute details though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Wojo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,270 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 8 hours ago, Jay said: I appreciated the score a lot more once we got to hear the whole thing. JW made some baffling decisions with that OST, leaving off major highlights in favor of frankly boring suspense tracks A true test of the score is of course how it plays in the film and KOTCS score plays like gangbusters in the film. Like the Jungle Chase, the scene comes alive due to the dueling statements of all the themes. Irina's theme does a lot to enhance her personality and menace in the film. fuhrsy31 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 You have almost 300 posts, you should have an avatar! crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,034 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 2 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: A true test of the score is of course how it plays in the film and KOTCS score plays like gangbusters in the film. Like the Jungle Chase, the scene comes alive due to the dueling statements of all the themes. Irina's theme does a lot to enhance her personality and menace in the film. It's a true test of its functionality as a film score, but y'know, quite a few of us do like to listen to these things on their own... I'll agree about the jungle chase sequence, though - it's still no Raiders, but it sports some of the film's most enthusiastic writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 There are many many many scores that function fine in the film but are uninteresting to listen to in their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 And yet I've bought Ladyhawke three times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Thor made you do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Thor would never make a person buy an expanded score. Album is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 minute ago, publicist said: Thor made you do it? The cassette and CD were gifts for a dead friend. The LLL CD is for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I really like the movie (Tom Mankiewicz's script combines wit and romance rather beautifully) but the score so ruined it for me i dreamed of Williams/Goldsmith cues for certain scenes for years. Apparently everyone begged Donner to take the score out but he refused. Good for some, bad for many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,287 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 The lacklustre album presentation did first impressions of the score no favours. So many score highlights left off the album, in favour of track after track of uninteresting underscore. Combine the highlights from Orellana's Cradle, Oxley's Dilemma, Grave Robbers and Secret Doors And Scorpions into a single track, make room for more Jungle Chase and Nevada music, and it's a much more dynamic album. Not worth losing any sleep over though, for obvious reasons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 4 hours ago, publicist said: I really like the movie (Tom Mankiewicz's script combines wit and romance rather beautifully) but the score so ruined it for me i dreamed of Williams/Goldsmith cues for certain scenes for years. Apparently everyone begged Donner to take the score out but he refused. Good for some, bad for many. Donner usually makes good choices when it comes to his scores. But not on Ladyhawke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,488 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 11 hours ago, mrbellamy said: I don't. 5 hours ago, publicist said: I really like the movie (Tom Mankiewicz's script combines wit and romance rather beautifully) but the score so ruined it for me i dreamed of Williams/Goldsmith cues for certain scenes for years. Apparently everyone begged Donner to take the score out but he refused. Good for some, bad for many. When I watch that film, all I hear, musically, is "Silence, And I". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,270 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 More praise for that "Dream Country" sequence A particularly standout visual-accomplishment comes when the BFG takes Sophie to Dream Country to help him capture the ember-like dreams that whisk around under the reflection of stunning lake set atop a mountain. It’s a whimsical poetic triumph that just gets everything perfect from the plinky-plunky John Williams score to the choice of lighting and the stunning visuals – it’s as if the director takes us through the looking-glass and we’re walking with him in tandem through the subconscious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Plinky-plunky music? What's that sound like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,630 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 11 minutes ago, someonefun124 said: Plinky-plunky music? What's that sound like? Harp and more harp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 I found this... Quote plinky = high-pitched (perhaps metallic) and staccato - think of hitting the same very high key on a piano a few times.plunky = lower pitched and staccato - think of the noise a smallish stone makes when dropped into a well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Quote The juxtaposition of the fancy establishment and having both her Highness and her Corgis become subjected to uncontrollable musical-gas is nothing short of comedic-brilliance. So.... a fart cue by Johnny? crumbs and JacksonElmore 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 In the business we call that a dramatic music stink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 16 minutes ago, Muad'Dib said: So.... a fart cue by Johnny? In the grand tradition of "Double Trouble". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,270 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 And "Pulling the Cannon" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 And "Anakin's Dark Deeds" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,270 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 "Freedom's Call" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Sounds like BFG there, am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Tom said: Harp and more harp? My guess/hope is for the harp/piano/vibraphone/crotales/celesta thing he does. One of my favorite Williams colors when it carries nice jazzy harmonies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 I heard some dingy-things and bells in the Cannes premiere video, albeit buried in the mix so that might be what the critic is referring to. It sounded very much in line with the technique he uses in the opening of The Terminal's "The Fountain Scene" and many other scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Bill said: Sounds like BFG there, am I right? Ain't that a absurdly lovely and moving piece of music. We could hope BFG is of a similar quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 I don't expect, nor do I want, him to ever top that score! crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 He already topped it in that same year. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 You mean Shore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Both shore and Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,287 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Unfortunately, I do think A.I. will remain Williams' last true masterpiece, but I'll be damned if he hasn't had more than a handful of brilliant scores since, with many brilliant works to come. A.I. just holds a very special place in my heart that I don't think any score can replace at this point. Utterly sublime. fuhrsy31 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 A.I.'s score is one of Williams' best. Harry Potter 1 too though. I personally feel I can't pick between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,249 Posted May 19, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2016 Luckily, we don't have to! crumbs, nightscape94, Pieter Boelen and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Wrong! You MUST choose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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