Quintus 5,399 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 But the trailer says the book is the "holy grail" haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 mstrox and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 4 hours ago, Cerebral Cortex said: What I hope the CGI sequences will be like: What I fear they will be like: Hasn't the trailer already made clear which of those two this will look like? crumbs and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 JURASSIC PARK cost $65 million, in 1993, and it still looks great. TLW cost $70 million, in 1997, and it still looks great. KOTCS cost $175 million, in 2008, and it looks like shit. Go figure. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Those are only a few examples. Thousands and thousands of older films which cost nothing to produce still look better than millions-worth blockbusters being made these days. It's sad, really, to see so much money poured into projects for such a lame result. James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 The Jurassic Park one still looks great because the CG effect was composited onto a real set. Filmmakers today, including Spielberg, seem to think CGI is just as convincing, if not more, when it's contained in a green screen studio. The problem is the actors, whom aren't CGI. Ollie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Obviously the living actors need to be replaced by digital versions who can more realistically interact and blend in with the CGI background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicCobb 194 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Obviously the living actors need to be replaced by digital versions who can more realistically interact and blend in with the CGI background. Isn't this exactly what they're doing for RPO? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 This is what I wish they'd do with Indy V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Is Robert Englund playing Freddy again in this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saulocf 79 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 3 hours ago, Quintus said: This is what I wish they'd do with Indy V. I would actually prefer it, now that you mentioned it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 I wouldnt! Perhaps gamers like Lee could get past the Uncanny Valley. I know I could not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Presumably it bothered you in Tintin then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Did Tintin look like Harrison Ford? That was a cartoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 What do you think I meant with Indy V then? I'd happily see it as an animated mocap film like Tintin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I don't fully understand the use of mocap if it's all animated. With something like Davy Jones for example you need someone for the other actors to act against and who can interact with the environment (and still a lot of the character is animated from scratch anyway), as well as someone as a reference for the animators, but in a movie like Tintin or those Zemeckis movies it feels a bit weird. I suspect Spielberg not being an animator might be part of it, but I dunno On 25/7/2017 at 6:54 AM, publicist said: The book is CGI catastrophe. I've read now some parts of it and it's kind of horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Brónach said: I don't fully understand the use of mocap if it's all animated. Naturalistic movement and performance capture. Koray Savas and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I think they can animate that. Maybe the mocap lowers the budget though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Not really. Gollum wouldn't have been anywhere near as successful without Serkis' performance. Within a fully CG cartoon animation? The actor's performance is arguably superior to animated performance work. It's a whole new level of expressive sophistication. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Quintus said: What do you think I meant with Indy V then? I'd happily see it as an animated mocap film like Tintin. I thought you meant photo-realistic CGI. Just now, Quintus said: Not really. Gollum wouldn't have been anywhere near as successful without Serkis' performance. Agreed excellent merger between an actual actors performance and digital animation. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 But Gollum is a different case to the one I'm talking about. It's actually rather close to animation from scratch from a model. They didn't work Avatar style back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Well Steef, I'd also be happy to see them using the de-ageing technique on Ford too, were it on the cards. I was blown away by it in Ant Man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 It was very good in Ant-Man. Probably too cost prohibitive for a full 2 hour movie though. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Dunno what these techniques cost these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Nor do I. but it would have to be perfect, every single shot throughout the whole film. Not like Tarkin in Rogue One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Tarkin looks shit. They just about got away with it on a secondary character, but there's no way that work could be passed off on a big lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Just watched the Comic Con trailer. Looks okay, although with its use of Tom Sawyer, and the display of 80s pop imagery in a future setting, it looks like fan service stew. MUST WATCH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,624 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 After seeing the trailer I am VERY dissapointed that Williams chose another boring historical drama over this The movie looks cool from the trailer Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bor Gullet 7 Posted November 8, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2017 A new tidbit. Spielberg is working closely with ILM on the massive number of visual effects for his next epic, ’80s-inflected Ready Player One (Warner Bros., March 30), based on the 2011 Ernest Cline sci-fi novel, which wrapped principal photography a year ago. Spielberg said he spends three three-hour meetings a week going over visual effects with ILM. "This is the most difficult movie I’ve done since Saving Private Ryan." http://www.indiewire.com/2017/11/steven-spielberg-the-post-ready-player-one-ben-mendelsohn-arthur-miller-writer-1201895214/ Will, John and Disco Stu 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 All easy peasy compared to Jaws though. It doesn't bode well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Three three-hour meetings a week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 From what I've seen, this movie looks pretty ugly. If it wasn't for Spielberg's name attached to it, most people would probably have dismissed it as trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I dunna, I think it looks like it could be pretty good, and I'm sure the visuals will be fine. The source material is supposed to be very poor, though I've never read the book myself, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon McBride 113 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 The books crap. Some neat stuff could be done with it though, so I'm holding on to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 2 hours ago, KK said: From what I've seen, this movie looks pretty ugly. If it wasn't for Spielberg's name attached to it, most people would probably have dismissed it as CG trash. You could say that for a couple of other Spielberg films as well. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,296 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Very surprised this is an ILM production? Spielberg just wanted to keep it local? Weta did Tintin and BFG, both his previous CGI/Mocap movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 VFX houses bid on projects and the film company usually settles for the one which makes the best price. Of course Spielberg has a special relationship with ILM, so I guess if he wants to work specifically with them, the studio agrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Don't most of the big movies have several effects houses working on them now anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Yes, but that's because of the massive workload (and tight deadlines) of some vfx-driven films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 16 hours ago, KK said: From what I've seen, this movie looks pretty ugly. If it wasn't for Spielberg's name attached to it, most people would probably have dismissed it as CG trash. It looks like what would happen if Kamiński became the Lawnmower Man. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 On 25-7-2017 at 6:49 AM, The Doctor said: Terrible trailer. It's a CGI catastrophe. Again. but ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 It still looks ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 It does tell us that Spielberg watched Bates Motel and said "Get me that Emma chick or else ...!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bor Gullet 7 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 I’m just interested in this film for the music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bor Gullet 7 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Incoming trailer. http://www.trailer-track.com/2017/12/05/in-the-pipeline-get-ready-for-a-new-trailer-for-steven-spielbergs-ready-player-one/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi 404 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 YEAH!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2017 This could be a game changer, cinematically. Fancyarcher, Cerebral Cortex, Not Mr. Big and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeH 768 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 43 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: This could be a game changer, cinematically. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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