BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,339 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 You start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Whats there to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Surprisingly the article doesn't mention Aliens 2/Alien 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Wow, that author really hates selective sequels, which can sometimes reboot or retcon a franchise. I think they're a great idea, if you have the capital to back them and treat the property well. Why permit a previous crew's mistakes paint future movies into a corner by perpetuating the same mistakes, if they hinder future profitability, er, creativity? Is the average film goer really going to be butthurt about spending $15 on a movie today just because it ignores the events of a movie he spent $11 to see three years prior? Is he going to obsess over that? The dangerous side of the selective sequel path is the sloppy sequel path, when it's clear the filmmakers made it all up as they went with complete disregard for details to a point. Not pointing fingers, X-Men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,339 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Wow, it is indeed odd the article doesn't mention the Aliens / Alien 5 situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Not really. Alien 5 isn't out yet, while Jurassic Park 2, erm, Jurassic World is. The article wants to hype a film in theaters, not ride the speculation train. Wow, that author really hates selective sequels, also called reboots or retcons. Reboots aren't selective sequels.I knew it would be you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thor 7,490 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I'm with the author of that article -- I'm an extreme continuity junkie and hate reboots of franchises that I love, or films that ignore parts of the storyline. I know such things are not a big deal to many here, but it most definitely is to me. That being said, I think JURASSIC WORLD fits well with existing timeline, so no big issues there. But the way they're rebooting, say, the HULK and SPIDERMAN franchises every other year is such ridiculous. And don't even get me started on Blomkamp's ALIEN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Jurassic World does ignore the fact that Hammond became an environmentalist and actively fought against having dinosaurs used as a theme park attraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 In the film, masrani says the park was made to make people notice who tiny they are in the big picture. To humble humanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 In the film Masrani claimed he had taken over Hammonds dream and legacy.He must mean his initial one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 or deathbed one... there is much we dont know.Hmmm, now i notice... that there is not a 'This film is dedicated to richard attemborough' message in the film. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 They didn't even have a real close-up of the Hammond statue, I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 The backstory for the characters states that Hoskins gained his position in part by killing the pteranodonts that escaped Isla Sorna at the end of JPIII.The films never explain how Hammond died, though we know from TLW that he was dying anyway. Who knows what he said on his deathbed after he made his speech about leaving them alone? Or Masrani could have lied about Hammond's legacy. It'd make for some interesting theories, but I think I'll leave that to others. I might mention that Hammond does not outright rule out creating another park. He simply states that the dinosaurs living on Isla Sorna should be left alone.I think in this case, Jurassic World purposefully neglects to mention the last two but companion material makes it plain that the events of the other two movies did happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 For all we know, Nublar became the new park while Sorna remained the preserve. As for selective sequels, what is it about films like the Muppet movies and the Monty Python movies that allow us to accept zero continuity between them, but people lose their shit because Jurassic World doesn't mention San Diego? Because anthology movies operate under different, nonlinear rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Selective sequels? Bring 'em on! Lol maybe one day they'll let me make an alternate sequel to The Empire Strikes Back or a different version of The Hobbit that doesn't necessarily ignore Jackson's LOTR!**Totally kidding. Don't stone me!These guys erase the past and change the future with just a couple of comments in an interview. The Terminator’s long since abandoned numerical sequels, but if it hadn’t, they could have called this one Terminator 3 2: Genisys.I was just joking the other day that they could call the next one "The Lost Park" and then the final film would be "Jurassic World III: Jurassic Park VI." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Selective sequels? Bring 'em on! Lol maybe one day they'll let me make an alternate sequel to The Empire Strikes Back or a different version of The Hobbit that doesn't necessarily ignore Jackson's LOTR!**Totally kidding. Don't stone me! A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Not acknowledging TLW of JPIII is the very least of this film's problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter.anschutz 43 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 As for selective sequels, what is it about films like the Muppet movies and the Monty Python movies that allow us to accept zero continuity between them, but people lose their shit because Jurassic World doesn't mention San Diego?And all 23 James Bond films in which most of them have absolutely no relation to the others' plots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I don't watch James Bond movies, but I guess you're right. I guess that's why they never bothered to number them or create one cohesive story across the decades. Each actor's installments create their own little continuity, and that's okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Even the first three Indiana Jones films acknowledged very little of each other. The only example I can think of is the Ark of the Covenant painting in the catacombs under Venice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 They were better for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 So where does Jurassic World go from where it left the viewers?Is Biosyn gonna get involved again like they did in JP? Is Henry Wu going to try to salvage the park again?Or is it just going to be...Jurassic World 2: The Lost Profits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,650 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I don't think Jurassic World even IS a "selective sequel." There are a handful of references to the previous sequels, where it makes sense. BTW, if a rhinoceros rampaged through San Diego, people would still visit the San Diego zoo and look at the rhinos. If a lion ate a person on safari, people would still go on safari the next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Where are those references? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,650 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 T-Rex busting through the spinosaurus skeleton. Ian Malcom's book, which was seen in several shots (I know he was obviously in JP as well, but his character would be more primed to write such a thing after the public revelation of dinosaurs in TLW). Since those movies took place on Isla Sorna (and since the events of the third one really only occurred to one family), there really wasn't a great way to shoehorn in references to the events of those two movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 That's a handful? Have your hands been damaged? mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,650 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I have very small hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 The T-rex kingdom arena seems to be based on the amphitheater from San diego's Jurassic park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Hoskins' backstory is another indicator. He killed the pteranodont clan that escaped Isla Sorna at the end of JPIII (apparently they got to Canada). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fommes 153 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Looking forward to the selective sequel that ignores the previous selective sequel and goes back to the sequels that the previous selective sequel chose to ignore instead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 24, 2015 Author Share Posted June 24, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Jurassic Park V: Meanwhile on Isla Sorna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 It's not mentioned in the film, though, just in some tie-in stuff most people haven't read!They didn't mention that the T-Rex is the same one as in Jurassic Park either (I wonder how they recaptured her, and how they failed to hit her when they napalmed Isla Nublar) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,339 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Did they even napalm Isla Nublar in the film world? I mean I know they did in the bookAlso, is it realistic that T-Rexes would live to be 22 years old+? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Being the alpha predator on the island, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Some crocodiles live over 70 years, so yes. But this is a genetically invented hybrid animal. Who knows what kind of disease or defect it could be susceptible to after years? It would need constant medical attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Two words: Lysine contingency.Did they even napalm Isla Nublar in the film world? I mean I know they did in the bookAlso, is it realistic that T-Rexes would live to be 22 years old+?It's in a deleted scene for TLW. They mention they did napalm the island, which would not account for how the T-Rex, or the original visitor's centre, are still there unless they did a poor job of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,650 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Deleted scenes are not canon, they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Unless they decide they can't come up with anything original so they shoehorn in bits of it anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 I suppose the T-rex could live that long. The indominous had growth speed, i dont know if they did all dinosaurs like that but i doubt it.She looked a little old-emaciated though.Two words: Lysine contingency.Well, the dinosaurs roam free...so the herbivores can eat lysine plants, and so on. Like they say in TLW.But the thing is the park must have been constructed now many years after TLW or JPIII. I dont think there could be enough dinomeat to sustain the rex for lets say, 10 years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,339 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 65 million years ago, the T-Rexes would have had entire continents to roam to find food. Stuck on island, they'd run out of wild goats pretty quick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 he could eat all the other dinosaurs... but that wouldnt last much...It being the same rex in like a nice easter egg...but full of plotholes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Or the lysine contingency was useless. No vertabrate produces lysine anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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