Pellaeon 593 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Poe’s opening joke to Kylo Ren’s face felt a little forced, but Finn, Han, BB8, all their humor by and large worked for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,942 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 But one must wonder if a similar approach will work for episode IX. If they're going for something more impactful with this final chapter, they'll have to tone it down a bit to make it more serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Serious is overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,942 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 It isn't, but that's besides the point: do you doubt they'll actually make episode XI serious? I don't. Like it or not, Star Wars has evolved into something more serious than its 1977 roots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chen G. said: Like it or not, Star Wars has evolved into something more serious than its 1977 roots. More expansive? Yes. More serious? No, not at all, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,942 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I didn't say they always necessarily pull it off all that well, but I do think that every film that has followed in the series has tried to be more serious. They may have sideplots that were meant to be of a more comedic nature (Ewoks, Jar Jar, Canto Bight) but the films' themselves always attempted to be serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick1Ø66 4,687 Posted April 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 26, 2018 32 minutes ago, Chen G. said: It isn't, but that's besides the point: do you doubt they'll actually make episode XI serious? I don't. Don't you think it's a little early to start speculating on that? Let's get through Episode IX first. Bilbo, Naïve Old Fart, John and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,490 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 A quick TFA/TLJ question: if Leia could sense Han's death, then why couldn't Luke? Why does he ask "Where's Han?"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chen G. 3,942 Posted April 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 26, 2018 Isn't it said that he cut himself off from The Force or something to that effect? Besides, does it really matter? What matters is that we have what I thought was a nice cut from that scene to Kylo Ren, as if to asnwer Luke's question not through dialogue, but through cinema. Naïve Old Fart, Nick1Ø66, mstrox and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,490 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 A good answer. Ok, here's another one, for ya: how long had it been since Luke tried to kill Ben? How long had Luke been on Ahch-To? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 30 minutes ago, Richard said: A good answer. Ok, here's another one, for ya: how long had it been since Luke tried to kill Ben? How long had Luke been on Ahch-To? I'd guess 10-15 years or so. Isn't Ben like 30 now - makes him about 15-20 years old when it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,637 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 The exact date hasn't been defined. It takes place after the novel Bloodline, so Kylo was at least 23. Wookieepedia basically says, any time between 23 and 29 y.o. (any time between Bloodline and The Force Awakens. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Destruction_of_Luke_Skywalker's_Jedi_Temple http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kylo_Ren Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,490 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Thanks for that, Mike. Ok, another one: if Luke took the bit of map with him, so the Resistance couldn't find him, how did Lor San Tekka get his mitts on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,491 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I don't remember anything about Luke taking the map with him. I guess he just gave it to Tekka for safekeeping because he trusted him not to give it up and it was worthless without R2's piece or the full Imperial Archives anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Holko said: I don't remember anything about Luke taking the map with him. I guess he just gave it to Tekka for safekeeping because he trusted him not to give it up and it was worthless without R2's piece or the full Imperial Archives anyway. How did Tekka get it? Maybe he was a teacher at this academy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,491 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 According to the Wiki, he was an underground Jedi fanboy, collecting all kinds of relics and info about the old ways, making him useful to the New Republic and especially Luke. Maybe he only allowed Luke to look at his map piece but the deal was that he would keep it. He may have even been the one to take it from the Imperial Archives, making the First Order's map incomplete. But when things started turning dark, he decided to contact the Resistance and give his piece up for the greater good. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,637 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I don't think Luke took anything with him. Luke went to "the most unfindable place." Rumor was, it was the site of the first Jedi temple. TFA was about people who heard that rumor finding that site. They had an incomplete map from the Imperial archives. Not sure how the map became incomplete, or how LST got the piece. Maybe it wasn't a "piece of the map," but an alternate Jedi-owned map that, when overlayed in the context of the larger Imperial map that people already had, would fully direct them to that planet. Marvel's POE DAMERON 1-26 show the entirety of Poe's search for LST, up through the beginning of TFA. I don't remember if it got more into the nature of the map or not. My guess is, between the TFA novelization (which I haven't read), the Poe comics, and the TLJ novelization (which I haven't read), a clear in-universe picture for it is out there. For the purposes of the movie, I was always satisfied enough with "this map is needed to find the McGuffin (Luke)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 minute ago, mstrox said: I don't think Luke took anything with him. Luke went to "the most unfindable place." Rumor was, it was the site of the first Jedi temple. TFA was about people who heard that rumor finding that site. They had an incomplete map from the Imperial archives. Not sure how the map became incomplete, or how LST got the piece. Maybe it wasn't a "piece of the map," but an alternate Jedi-owned map that, when overlayed in the context of the larger Imperial map that people already had, would fully direct them to that planet. Marvel's POE DAMERON 1-26 show the entirety of Poe's search for LST, up through the beginning of TFA. I don't remember if it got more into the nature of the map or not. My guess is, between the TFA novelization (which I haven't read), the Poe comics, and the TLJ novelization (which I haven't read), a clear in-universe picture for it is out there. For the purposes of the movie, I was always satisfied enough with "this map is needed to find the McGuffin (Luke)." I'm a little confused. The academy of Luke's wasn't on Ahch-To? What?! That hut that Ben was in in the flashback was the same one as the ones on Ahch-To! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 No, the academy was not on Ahch-To. If it was that would have been the first place people looked to find him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Demodex said: No, the academy was not on Ahch-To. If it was that would have been the first place people looked to find him. Wow. I'm cut to the heart. Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,491 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 And you're to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,942 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 hour ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: I'm a little confused. The academy of Luke's wasn't on Ahch-To? What?! That hut that Ben was in in the flashback was the same one as the ones on Ahch-To! Yeah, they should have made the two more distinct. It does resemble Luke’s Island, but clearly we’re supposed to understand that they’re not the same. Otherwise the story of both films would make zero sense. Just judge the film based on its cinematic verve: the plotting, directing, editing, structure, production value, characters, drama, action, setup/payoff, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,491 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 I'm slowly starting to warm up to the idea of this movie. I could be fun. 1977 and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick1Ø66 4,687 Posted April 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2018 12 minutes ago, Holko said: I'm slowly starting to warm up to the idea of this movie. I could be fun. Excellent. You're responding to their promotional material exactly as Disney expects you to. Everything is proceeding as The Mouse has foreseen. Holko, Kasey Kockroach, 1977 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,491 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 To be honest, the only way I wouldn't watch it in the cinema was if the marketing was really, really, really bad. The marketing we have is just really bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 The only thing that annoys me is that trailer music, but that's par for the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 23 hours ago, Holko said: I'm slowly starting to warm up to the idea of this movie. I could be fun. 23 hours ago, Nick1066 said: Excellent. You're responding to their promotional material exactly as Disney expects you to. Everything is proceeding as The Mouse has foreseen. I am anticipating it to be a very fun movie to take in. I'm for it! To heck with the Mouse. I care no matter what Mickey wants me to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick1Ø66 4,687 Posted April 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 minute ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: I am anticipating it to be a very fun movie to take in. I'm for it! To heck with the Mouse. I care no matter what Mickey wants me to think. Goooood....goooood.... The Illustrious Jerry, Holko, Kasey Kockroach and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 It really is kind of crazy when you think about the fact that in a few weeks we're getting a Lawrence Kasdan script directed by Ron Howard. Like it's 1986 or something. Bayesian and John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,687 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Hmmmmm. Quote Ron Howard Calls Solo A Different Type Of Star Wars Film “The Star Wars universe that we see in Solo is different than anything we’ve seen in any of the Star Wars movies. The Empire controls everything, everyone is struggling to survive, but we discover this incredible free spirit." Isn't this exactly the plot of every film in the OT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Nick1066 said: Hmmmmm. Isn't this exactly the plot of every film in the OT? Yes, but the Empire is supposed to be at their height here, and plus that "free spirit" is Han Solo, so yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 So, Han Solo is a free-spirited headstrong Disney princess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 ‘Solo: A Star Wars Story’ Soars on Tracking to Potential $170M+ Four-Day Weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Support this initiative from Lucasfilm and Solo: A Star Wars Story. Fun. New TV spot. Just realized Lando was never really able to say "Han" properly. This looks so fun, fun, fun. Cannot wait, score and movie! Obi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Preordered a ticket. I hope I don't regret this.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Nah, you won't. Not sure if pre-ordering was necessary but hey good show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Probably indeed wasn't, but I figure it's Star Wars so it'll be sold out for awhile if I don't pre-order. And then I'd have to read spoilers about how it turns out Qi'ra's character falls in love with Chewie (I'd ship it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Nah. Lando will have a way with Qira. I see hints in these trailers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 I have never ventured out of my way to see a Star Wars movie before. This feels indescribably surreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 I did for TLJ. Precaution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 I saw TFA in theatres but it was not by choice. Rey x Finn was my favorite thing about it, so I didn't bother with TLJ since they don't interact at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,326 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: I saw TFA in theatres but it was not by choice. Rey x Finn was my favorite thing about it, so I didn't bother with TLJ since they don't interact very much. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Well, apparently not enough to be worth the ticket to see my ship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 kasey and jerry, do you two need a room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 You mean a cell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 30 minutes ago, Fargo said: kasey and jerry, do you two need a room? Nah, I'm good. 28 minutes ago, John said: You mean a cell? Good one 😄! Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,270 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Maybe not of that much interest, but I think this is the first high-res credit block I've seen. It's kind of neat just seeing John Williams with a credit for new Star Wars music merely 5 months after Last Jedi. Still so unexpected. John and Tiburon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Thandie Newton's in this? Hehe, I've seen her naughty bits in WestWorld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,287 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 I know we don't even know the next standalone movie, but it would be seriously cool if Williams kept composing the main theme for all of them moving forwards. Even a suite of new themes for Rian's new trilogy, just to set things in motion, would be a cool gesture. I think he'll be finished writing entire Star Wars scores after IX, as he's plainly indicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 He should have composed the Imperial theme in Rogue One!...oh, wait, he already did an Imperial theme... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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