BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 12 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: I disagree! I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted October 2, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2017 I sincerely hope that Kylo Ren dies, right after he kills Luke. Off the wall? Maybe, but GL wanted to say that even the worst people can be redeemed, and he said it well, in ROTJ. There are, however, some people in life who do not want to be redeemed. They are bad, and have no intention of becoming good. Kylo Ren is a c**t. He's an interesting c**t, and he's a conflicted c**t, but he's definitely a c**t. I would prefer to see him not turn back to the light side, and to die as a dark side c**t should. Of course, I doubt that this shall happen. It's just my new hope. Not Mr. Big, James and Bilbo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 http://screenrant.com/star-wars-9-john-boyega-battle/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,305 Posted October 7, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2017 It would be a fun twist if Ren actually betrays and murders Snoke in Episode VIII, usurping him as leader of the First Order. Otherwise it's going to be very hard for IX to avoid repeating ROTJ with the Emperor storyline -- with Snoke as the Emperor, Ren as Vader and Rey as Luke. Ren needs to be beyond redemption in this trilogy IMHO, and double down on the evilness. James, Bilbo, John and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 17 minutes ago, crumbs said: It would be a fun twist if Ren actually betrays and murders Snoke in Episode VIII, usurping him as leader of the First Order. Otherwise it's going to be very hard for IX to avoid repeating ROTJ with the Emperor storyline -- with Snoke as the Emperor, Ren as Vader and Rey as Luke. Ren needs to be beyond redemption in this trilogy IMHO, and double down on the evilness. There's one other way to do it that I would really enjoy. I'm going to put it in spoiler tags even though it's completely a fan theory right now with zero actual evidence: Spoiler What if Kylo = Snape and Han = Dumbledore? In other words, what if Kylo is actually a deep cover agent working for Luke to take down Snoke, and he only killed Han because he had to as part of his plan? This would cast all his TFA scenes in a stunning new light. For example, the scene where he speaks to Vader's mask: What if, when he says "I will finish what you started," he really means "I will finish balancing the Force, a job you started when you destroyed the Sith by killing the Emperor." What if when he talks about trying to resist the pull to the light, he really means that he's afraid Snoke will find him out if he stops acting evil? What if his desperation to find the map is not because he wants to kill Luke, but rather because he wants to rejoin forces with him? What if the "destruction of Luke's temple" was really just a staged cover for the start of their plan? What if, when he tells Han "I'm being torn apart ... I know what I have to do but I don't know if I have the strength to do it. Will you help me?" the reason he's conflicted is that he knows he has to kill Han to prove to Snoke his commitment to the dark side. He doesn't want to kill his father, but he has to in order to stay undercover. Of course, there are still deaths like those of Lor San Tekka that are even harder to rectify with the theory of Kylo as a good guy, although I have seen it theorized that perhaps Kylo is letting the dark side consume him in order to stay convincing to Snoke, a job that would be difficult if he didn't legitimately try to be evil. Additionally, Kylo seems to have a legitimate dislike of his father -- clearly this isn't staged. However, it's still theoretically possible that he's sided with Luke despite a falling out with Han. Certainly, it's all a little farfetched, but it's one of the more interesting routes they could go. I really don't want them to just copy ROTJ, nor would it be particularly satisfying to have Kylo stay dark, IMO. Now I want to add one note about a possible major spoiler for TLJ!! Spoiler It's rumored that at some point in the film Rey and Ren have a conversation of some sort on Ahch-To. It would be awfully strange for them to do this if Ren was still evil. Furthermore, I cannot see how Ren could switch from dark to light in only half a film. Thus, I think it is actually reasonable to conclude that Ren was good all along, although it is by no means a forgone conclusion. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 "Rey...?" "Always." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 4 hours ago, Will said: There's one other way to do it that I would really enjoy. I'm going to put it in spoiler tags even though it's completely a fan theory right now with zero actual evidence: Hide contents What if Kylo = Snape and Han = Dumbledore? In other words, what if Kylo is actually a deep cover agent working for Luke to take down Snoke, and he only killed Han because he had to as part of his plan? This would cast all his TFA scenes in a stunning new light. For example, the scene where he speaks to Vader's mask: What if, when he says "I will finish what you started," he really means "I will finish balancing the Force, a job you started when you destroyed the Sith by killing the Emperor." What if when he talks about trying to resist the pull to the light, he really means that he's afraid Snoke will find him out if he stops acting evil? What if his desperation to find the map is not because he wants to kill Luke, but rather because he wants to rejoin forces with him? What if the "destruction of Luke's temple" was really just a staged cover for the start of their plan? What if, when he tells Han "I'm being torn apart ... I know what I have to do but I don't know if I have the strength to do it. Will you help me?" the reason he's conflicted is that he knows he has to kill Han to prove to Snoke his commitment to the dark side. He doesn't want to kill his father, but he has to in order to stay undercover. Of course, there are still deaths like those of Lor San Tekka that are even harder to rectify with the theory of Kylo as a good guy, although I have seen it theorized that perhaps Kylo is letting the dark side consume him in order to stay convincing to Snoke, a job that would be difficult if he didn't legitimately try to be evil. Additionally, Kylo seems to have a legitimate dislike of his father -- clearly this isn't staged. However, it's still theoretically possible that he's sided with Luke despite a falling out with Han. Certainly, it's all a little farfetched, but it's one of the more interesting routes they could go. I really don't want them to just copy ROTJ, nor would it be particularly satisfying to have Kylo stay dark, IMO. Now I want to add one note about a possible major spoiler for TLJ!! Hide contents It's rumored that at some point in the film Rey and Ren have a conversation of some sort on Ahch-To. It would be awfully strange for them to do this if Ren was still evil. Furthermore, I cannot see how Ren could switch from dark to light in only half a film. Thus, I think it is actually reasonable to conclude that Ren was good all along, although it is by no means a forgone conclusion. JJ isn’t that clever. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 JJ is just totally going to redo Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Of course Ren is redeemable but we already got that story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 @Will That is the worst theory of ALL time. Terrible. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 7,990 Posted October 7, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2017 9 hours ago, JohnSolo said: http://screenrant.com/star-wars-9-john-boyega-battle/ Wait, so he knows nothing about the film, where it's going and what will happens to any of the characters but his description of it somehow makes a headline? Why can't I get a paid job writing articles like this? I've got tons of ideas already for the fourth trilogy coverage. Karol John, Will and Holko 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,305 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 I reckon there's a whiteboard at Disney which JJ is staring at right now, with the plot of ROTJ broken down into pieces. He will be working out exactly how to do the exact opposite of everything ROTJ did. He would be acutely aware of the criticisms he faced for TFA copying ANH and he'll be wanting to avoid a repeat IMHO. One thing is for sure: there won't be a Starkiller V2! Will and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 hour ago, BloodBoal said: Yes! Let's point fingers at him and laugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Wouldn't Episode 9 be be all planned out by now or are they just making all this up as they go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 I'm sure they have very broad strokes of where they want it to go, Kennedy once said 7 was Ford's movie, 8 is Mark's (hope this doesn't mean Luke dies so soon) ans 9 was going to be Carrie's, but that's obviously not going to happen now. However, Rian said he had completely free hands. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,944 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Film trilogies is rarely are mapped out from the beginning, even in the broadest of strokes. At best, they have an idea for what each film will be. but an idea isn't a story. Far from it! The exception are films made simultaneously like Lord of the Rings, The Hobbit, Pirates 2 and 3, Superman 1 and 2, etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 They’re totally making it up as they go along. TFA wasn’t even finalized when they wrapped shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,944 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 As does all of Hollywood, with the few exceptions I mentioned. Its what George Lucas did with his films, too. Or do you think the incest in Empire Strikes Back (of which there was a lot more left on the cutting room's floor, thankfully) was intentional? Or Qui-Gon Jinn? Watching Star Wars, there are no two films that feel like they were cut from the same cloth, continuity-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 I wasn’t disagreeing with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,305 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 If Luke survives Episode VIII, I reckon they'll just switch the intended storyline for Leia to him. Obviously Luke's character can't carry the same gravitas as a mother desperately rescuing her son from the dark side, but it's not as if there's nothing to work with between Ben and Luke. Ben betrayed Luke by turning to the dark side; he destroyed everything Luke achieved with the new Jedi Academy and murdered all his padawans. So distraught by Ben's betrayal, Luke decided the Jedi were better off extinct than being rediscovered (which presumably forms the core of VIII's plot). They would have re-shot the ending of VIII if Luke died. There's no way IX doesn't feature a Legacy character carrying the story to its conclusion; the Skywalker story is the core of the series from the start; assuming Rey isn't Luke's daughter then he needs to complete the Skywalker arc in IX. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 I just hope they resolve the Leia situation properly. Recasting isn't an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 I would love to be surprised but I just can't think of any way to make Leia's story satisfying without any role in IX. An off-screen death would be really awkward (although maybe I'm underestimating Lucasfilm). The best idea I've seen was to try to use old footage and some CGI to give her a very small role in IX (e.g. a hologram discovered after her death). But then KK denied that in an interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 KK? The Kanadian guy? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 I am known to deny things. This is true. Will and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,305 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 They won't recast, they've admitted as much. There'll be a time jump between VIII and IX and they'll probably open with a funeral or something (complete with holographic Leia atop a casket or something, as Luke, Rey and the remaining Resistance generals console one another). The crawl will mention the First Order have taken a big scalp in their war against the Resistance (assassinating Leia) and that will trigger the Galactic war to end all wars. My hope is this becomes the motivating factor for Luke's arc in IX; vengeance will carry him through the film and he will finally succumb to the Dark Side (after losing his New Jedi Academy, his best friend and his sister, all as a result of taking Ben Solo under his wing). Maybe the plot of IX will actually revolve around Rey turning him back to the Light. It would be refreshing if something totally unexpected happens in VIII, like Snoke or Ren betraying one another and murdering the other as a power grab. Pieter Boelen and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon McBride 113 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 16 hours ago, Will said: There's one other way to do it that I would really enjoy. I'm going to put it in spoiler tags even though it's completely a fan theory right now with zero actual evidence: Reveal hidden contents What if Kylo = Snape and Han = Dumbledore? In other words, what if Kylo is actually a deep cover agent working for Luke to take down Snoke, and he only killed Han because he had to as part of his plan? This would cast all his TFA scenes in a stunning new light. For example, the scene where he speaks to Vader's mask: What if, when he says "I will finish what you started," he really means "I will finish balancing the Force, a job you started when you destroyed the Sith by killing the Emperor." What if when he talks about trying to resist the pull to the light, he really means that he's afraid Snoke will find him out if he stops acting evil? What if his desperation to find the map is not because he wants to kill Luke, but rather because he wants to rejoin forces with him? What if the "destruction of Luke's temple" was really just a staged cover for the start of their plan? What if, when he tells Han "I'm being torn apart ... I know what I have to do but I don't know if I have the strength to do it. Will you help me?" the reason he's conflicted is that he knows he has to kill Han to prove to Snoke his commitment to the dark side. He doesn't want to kill his father, but he has to in order to stay undercover. Of course, there are still deaths like those of Lor San Tekka that are even harder to rectify with the theory of Kylo as a good guy, although I have seen it theorized that perhaps Kylo is letting the dark side consume him in order to stay convincing to Snoke, a job that would be difficult if he didn't legitimately try to be evil. Additionally, Kylo seems to have a legitimate dislike of his father -- clearly this isn't staged. However, it's still theoretically possible that he's sided with Luke despite a falling out with Han. Certainly, it's all a little farfetched, but it's one of the more interesting routes they could go. I really don't want them to just copy ROTJ, nor would it be particularly satisfying to have Kylo stay dark, IMO. Now I want to add one note about a possible major spoiler for TLJ!! Reveal hidden contents It's rumored that at some point in the film Rey and Ren have a conversation of some sort on Ahch-To. It would be awfully strange for them to do this if Ren was still evil. Furthermore, I cannot see how Ren could switch from dark to light in only half a film. Thus, I think it is actually reasonable to conclude that Ren was good all along, although it is by no means a forgone conclusion. This is literally the plot to the EU comic book Dark Empire Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Oh wow, interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon McBride 113 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 It's slightly different, but it's basically the same. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Empire Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Do yourself a favour, don’t read Dark Empire. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Look can take down an entire AT-AT just by raising a hand! Always liked the artwork though. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 13, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2017 Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Porg Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Porgs Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Porgs Star Wars Episode IV: A New Porg Star Wars Episode V: The Porgs Strike Back Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Porgs Star Wars Episode VII: The Porg Awakens Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Porg Star Wars Episode IX: The Fall of the Porgs Porgy and Bess: A Star Wars Story Oh geez, I'm so so sorry everyone. I just...I needed to get that out of my system. A weight has been lifted from my shoulders. Will, Bilbo and Pieter Boelen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Porg and Mindy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,689 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Porgy's Porgy's: The Next Day Porgy's Revenge Porgygeist Breakin' III: Electric Porgaloo This place is going Porgo!!! Will and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 13 minutes ago, Baby Jane Hudson said: Porg and Mindy. Starring Natalie Porgman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 And Harrison Porg! Indeporgence Day The Porgriot The Porgrait of a Lady No, I'm a porg eye, you can say it. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 My favorite novel is A Room With a Porg by E.M. Porgster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Porghub.com mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Baby Jane Hudson said: Porghub.com Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 PORG HE'S A JOLLY GOOD FELLOW PORGYGEIST PORGY PARK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 2001: A Porg Odyssey A Clockwork Porgange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,689 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 44 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: My favorite novel is A Room With a Porg by E.M. Porgster If you liked that you should try Porg & Prejudice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 PORG, ACTUALLY PORGHEART FOUR WEDDINGS AND A PORG BLACK PORG DOWN INTERPORGER (ouch!) STAR TREK II: THE PORG OF KAHN STAR TREK III: THE SEARCH FOR PORG STAR TREK VI: THE UNDISCOVERED PORG PORGSLAYER THE THIRD PORG PORGS END PORG OF ARABIA PORGER THE GREEK THE SWEET SMELL OF PORG (eww!) PORGPORT TO PIMLICO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,689 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Bunnies of Doom man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 And here's a list of Steven Spielporg films: Jurassic Porg Porgs E.P.: The Extra-Porg Raiders of the Lost Porg Close Encounters of The Third Porg Minority Reporg The BFP (Big Friendly Porg) Bridge of Porgs The Color Porgple Saving Private Porg Schindler's Porg Catch Me If You Porg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 what have i done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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