Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Oh do please teach us, professor. You're so wise and we need guidance. Kasey Kockroach and Chen G. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 If Rey and Finn fell in love, it would be the downfall of feminism! The answer would obviously be give Rey a girlfriend, but Star Wars isn't allowed to be fun so that won't happen. A. A. Ron and Chen G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John 2,032 Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 I just cannot understand people who think female characters who aren't defined by a male/romantic interest are a bad thing. I think Chen's stance here is really naïve. You don't have to be an "SJW" (or whatever the term is nowadays) to see that it's a good thing to have female heroes and role models in movies. You just have to be a human being. SteveMc, TSMefford and Matt C 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chen G. 3,948 Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 hours ago, John said: You don't have to be an "SJW" (or whatever the term is nowadays) to see that it's a good thing to have female heroes and role models. Oh, sure. My issue is with the concept that to romanticise a heroine is anathema, as if it degrades the character in some esoteric way. Not that I'm a huge fan, but Wonder Woman was a good film (by a woman director), with a good female lead, who was played by a model, and walked around in a mini-skirt and corset and had a romantic relationship in the film. Rey, on the other hand... SteveMc, Matt C and DarthDementous 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Is this my cue to show off Nikita, a heroic witch of unknown species (born with a fox tail and a missile stuck in her eye for reasons forever unknown to her)? It's not? Well, here she is anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Bilbo is such a terrible character. Tolkien was so misguided not giving him a romantic relationship. The Hobbit, SJW trash! Smaug The Iron and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, John said: I just cannot understand people who think female characters who aren't defined by a male/romantic interest are a bad thing. You don't have to be an "SJW" (or whatever the term is nowadays) to see that it's a good thing to have female heroes and role models. You just have to be a human being. 7 minutes ago, Chen G. said: Oh, sure. My issue is with the concept that to romanticise a heroine is anathema, as if it degrades the character. Not that I'm a huge fan, but Wonder Woman was a good film (by a woman director), with a good female lead, who was played by a model, and walked around in a mini-skirt and corset and had a romantic relationship in the film. Rey, on the other hand... All depends on the character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,514 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: Is this my cue to show off Nikita, a heroic witch of unknown species (born with a fox tail and a missile stuck in her eye for reasons forever unknown to her)? It's not? Well, here she is anyway. Dude, draw. You're pretty damn good at it and there are millions of people online who love weird shit like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Thank youse! Though I had posted them for years on several social media pages, to less than zero feedback even when I begged for it. So I gave up a long time ago and just keep them to myself. (Pictured here is Nikita's love interest Boober the mermaid, and Nikita's older brother Kasey Kockroach. Obviously not related by blood, she was adopted and raised by a doting family of roaches). Cerebral Cortex and Loert 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,514 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Do a webcomic of their wacky hijinks, that'll get more attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I did a six-page comic years ago in college. Again, no interest was expressed. So I just keep the characters to myself. Trying to get attention and feedback just grew intensely depressing, so it was best I just draw for my own sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Chen G. said: My issue is with the concept that to romanticise a heroine is anathema, as if it degrades the character. Though as has been said, it depends on character, I can have an issue with this, as well. I also have an issue with this weird notion that in order to be a badass, a woman has be to efemulated: basically a poor imitation of a sterotypical male hero: stoic, hard-edged, and and too cool for everything around them. Seriously? I watched a comedy special with Jeff Ross where he went and roasted female inmates, and made some pretty explicit sexual jokes (such as asking a pregnant lady if she was there because she robbed a sperm bank). Afterwards, he got letters from the prison guards saying that the women's morale were high for quite a time after the show: apparently, they found it humanizing to actually be talked to like women, especially after being in prison and being treated like sexless prisoners. This isn't to condone making really crude jokes based on one's gender (playing to a prison crowd can require one to be a little more extreme than everyday scenarios, of course), but it does highlight an interesting dichotomy between certain ideals pushed for today by certain groups of ideologues, and the ways many people actually wish to be treated and addressed. To wrap this around back to Star Wars: I don't have a problem with Rey being romance-less, I just think it's confusing they tried to hint at anything else in The Force Awakens. Not to do the whole "Reylo" thing or whatever, but I do think it'd be cool for to be some kind of romantic/sexual undercurrent between the two. Unless you count the "romance" between Rose and Finn, this will be one of the most love-less trilogies in cinematic history! @kaseykockroach Pretty slick, amigo! Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Nick Parker said: Not to do the whole "Reylo" thing or whatever, but I do think it'd be cool for to be some kind of romantic/sexual undercurrent between the two. I thought the sexual tension between them in TLJ practically sparked off the screen! I also think it's fine for it to remain subtext. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Just now, Disco Stu said: I thought the sexual tension between them in TLJ practically sparked off the screen! I also think it's fine for it to remain subtext. Agreed! What I mean moreso is that it felt like a missed opportunity in The Force Awakens, and I hope it doesn't get backpedalled or totally done away with in the next one. It's a new thing for Star Wars: in the originals, you have two beloved characters Han and Leia in love; in the prequels, you have Anakin and Padme in love...Anakin's technically evil, but he's also technically the protagonist, and I think we're supposed to like him. But with these new movies, we have someone who's completely considered a rotten egg with the hots for a goodie: I don't want there to be a "love triumphs over evil" message in that way (you know the way, where the two opposing leaders fall in love and ignites a truce amongst warring sides), but it could go in really interesting ways, especially after all the stuff that happened at the end of The Last Jedi. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: Bilbo is such a terrible character. Tolkien was so misguided not giving him a romantic relationship. Well they threw in Tauriel, but she went with the dwarf.... Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 It's a shame Severin never got a love interest, as executives deemed the idea of any woman finding him romantically/physically desirable "unrealistic". Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Just now, kaseykockroach said: It's a shame Severin never got a love interest, as executives deemed the idea of any woman finding him romantically/physically desirable "unrealistic". Is that a Lord of the Rings character? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 This thread's gone downhill. To much hentai in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 God, no. He was a character in Fallen Kingdom who had a crush on Claire, but he got eaten by a carnotaurus and no one noticed or cared. 2 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: Is that a Lord of the Rings character? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: God, no. He was a character in Fallen Kingdom who had a crush on Claire, but he got eaten by a carnotaurus and no one noticed or cared. Wait, they named someone in a Jurassic Park movie Severin? That makes no sense, but at least now the title Fallen Kingdom does. 5 minutes ago, Fargo said: This thread's gone downhill. To much hentai in here. Says the man with the hentai monster in his avatar! What are those claws used for, anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Makes sense no one remembers him. He was excruciatingly ugly, his voice was grating on the ears, and his drawings sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, kaseykockroach said: Makes sense no one remembers him. He was excruciatingly ugly, his voice was grating on the ears, and his drawings sucked. Son of a gun, I just looked up "Severin Fallen Kingdom" and discovered things I didn't think I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 You found my Twitter or Facebook profiles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Just the Google results, I didn't want to be rude and rifle through them. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Look me up, Buttercup. My twitter posts are quite fascinatin'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Finally, Billy Dee returns to the franchise! Too bad he didn't get to act with his old colleagues in TFA and TLJ, but later is better than never, in my opinion. How do you think he'll fit into the story? Is he Rey's father? Or mother? Will he be the only one responding to the rebels' distress call in TLJ? https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-billy-dee-williams-returning-as-lando-calrissian-xi-1125818 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,514 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 He'll show off his pansexuality by courting Rose and Poe at once, then as a nod to Solo, shag the Falcon. WIth more seriousness, I hope they won't try and bring back the "can we trust him?" trait from Empire. Him not being part of the Resistance from the start shows his flip-floppiness and reluctance to stand out as a hero of the Galaxy well enough. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Hope he's not Finn's father. Karol Bryant Burnette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,514 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 How many black people have you seen in the galaxy who could be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,480 Posted July 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2018 He will officiate the ceremony for Han and Leia's funerals. I really hope to see Ewoks (blink their eyes and crying) in the church. crumbs, dtw42 and Holko 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, Holko said: How many black people have you seen in the galaxy who could be? How many black people are there in the galaxy? - At least two. (Kathleen Kennedy checking her requirements for the new trilogy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, Jurassic Shark said: How many black people are there in the galaxy? - At least two. (Kathleen Kennedy's checking her requirements for the new trilogy) There's not enough blue ones. The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,514 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 There's Thrawn who is canon again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bespin said: There's not enough blue ones. I'm sure you'd join to remedy that! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,649 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 There'll be some nice reveal that he's among the new resistance top brass who responded to Leia's code and united under her banner, or the resistance will remain very small-in-size like the end of TLJ and he'll be a reliable/key private sector helper in some sort of guerilla mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I hope Ep. IX will be a lego movie. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 He'll turn out to be the head-honcho of Canto Bight. "Rebellion? Ah yes. I did that for a while, once. Made a lot of money from it. Used it to get this place started. The First Order was really grateful for those arms shipments I did for them...he he he." *lights huge cigar* The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Stefancos said: He'll turn out to be the head-honcho of Canto Bight. "Rebellion? Ah yes. I did that for a while, once. Made a lot of money from it. Used it to get this place started. The First Order was really grateful for those arms shipments I did for them...he he he." *lights huge cigar* Is this supposed to be a joke? That actually sounds like one of the interesting ways to handle it! I'd love to see Billy Dee go baddie. The fans would revolt even more than they already have though. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 That's exactly why I think Lucasfilm wouldnt go there in a million years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Yeah JJ's definitely gonna play it safe. Probably for the best, I suppose. My hope is that where JJ takes it will make some fans look back on TLJ more fondly in retrospect. A fool's hope, I know. The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post karelm 2,911 Posted July 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2018 I think he'll get killed after the opening crawl then show up on Rey's desk that has framed pictures of Han, Leia, and Luke in what is clearly a still from previous movies. crumbs, Not Mr. Big, Gruesome Son of a Bitch and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Lando has been shacked up with this guy, after they eloped together shortly after the events of ROTJ: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 14 minutes ago, Quintus said: Lando has been shacked up with this guy, after they eloped together shortly after the events of ROTJ: Who could resist those eyes?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 He looks like @Quintus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: How do you think he'll fit into the story? As long as his first scene goes something like this (minus Han, of course): Then I'm good with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Mark Hamill Beard's gone! What does this mean for a possible IX appearance. - - - (begin weird speculation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 So does this mean that is was only his beard which died at the end of TLJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I'll agree if Han's there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Still okay if Luke reforms on Crait, but beardless. Heck, we saw a grey beard, a whitish beard, even a brown beard from him in The Last Jedi. Now he's coming back with no beard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I'm wondering if Lando's inclusion in the final episode was always the plan or if Fisher's death had something to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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