Popular Post Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted July 11, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2015 - pontification redacted Gnome in Plaid, KK and Will 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Great thread Grey. Looking forward to checking out some of the examples you've posted for Soule and O'Donnell. I'm familiar with Wintory find him to be a fantastic colourist. Just what the next generation of film music really needs. To add to your list, I recommend checking out the Banner Saga as well. It's a wonderful mix of stirring brass chorales, aleatoric woodwind colours and some ethnic elements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I'd flip the comparisons for Wintory and O'Donnell, and would probably compare O'Donnell more to Mansell than to Goldsmith, what with his string writing and darker electronic texturing, but all three I think are really underrated. I'd love to see what Soule could do with a film, although I have to admit the only example of Wintory's film work I've heard (Majid) left me pretty underwhelmed. Either way, you left out two of my favorite Wintory scores.And here are a couple more fun O'Donnell and Soule pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Both Soule and Wintory are composers whose work I have kept my eye on for years now. They write great and interesting stuff. I wish Soule could transition from sample libraries to real orchestras and film scores. I think he could do something really special with live musicians although his work for something like Guild Wars showcase excellent hand in orchestration, colours and melody even with his sample libraries. Wintory seems to have managed to get into films to a degree and I'd love to hear from him in movies but honestly in any musical form.I have no experience with O'Donnel's music but will certainly take a listen to more of his work after this recommendation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Typically the STAR WARS clip is the lamest one. Rarely was something gained by trying to plod along Williams' lines though i admit some cues on the OLD REPUBLIC game were fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 O'Donnell is the biggest discovery for me. On the other hand my opinion on Soule hasn't changed. It's colourful, thoughtfully written music, but it lacks rhythmic vitality to my ears. I miss syncopation, polyrhythms, isorhythms, phase shifts and a general sense of unpredictability. It's too comforting, too safe, not free enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 But, I'm not terribly familiar with him outside of the Elder Scrolls games. There could well be better examples of what you're after elsewhere. And again, whether or not these guys have done it, I think they can. I'll post more from Morrowind later. Actually, the album is short enough so everyone should check it out. It's very singular music. Certainly not predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Thing is, would Soule *want* to do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Don't we already have a thread about video game music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 Thing is, would Soule *want* to do it?Yeah, he has oddball opinions on some styles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Thing is, would Soule *want* to do it?Yeah, he has oddball opinions on some styles.That's my biggest frustration with him as a composer. Dude has some serious talent and potential, but he seems to limit himself. We all know limitations can be freeing, but in his case they seem to confine him to his comfort zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Don't we already have a thread about video game music?Another thread for you to troll is another source of sweet sweet post count bumps. "They have taken you from the Imperial City's prison,first by carriage and now by boat,to the east to Morrowind.Fear not, for I am watchful,you have been chosen." Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 Aw yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I need to listen to more Soule. Only familiar with Skyrim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I need to listen to more Soule.There you go: Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 O'Donnell is the biggest discovery for me. On the other hand my opinion on Soule hasn't changed. It's colourful, thoughtfully written music, but it lacks rhythmic vitality to my ears. I miss syncopation, polyrhythms, isorhythms, phase shifts and a general sense of unpredictability. It's too comforting, too safe, not free enough.Speaking of comfortable, I have a serious question: has Giacchino ever written anything as unruly, obnoxious and fun as this: https://youtu.be/VmVV2Fy1McIBecause I'd love to hear it. The end credits from Cloverfield don't do much for me, before anyone links me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 I reckon this is the closest he's ever come to real rambunctiousness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Love that cue. There's plenty of stuff in his game scores of that caliber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 Post 'em.--------This was in my original post but it's one of the ones that didn't get embedded. So I'm putting it here again. Because it's SO DAMN BADASS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I really like what I've heard from SouleThe Elder Scrolls and KOTR stuff is great but this is cool too: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 These go nicely together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I dare you to listen to this, pictures yourself climbing some wintery mountain in overcast gloomy weather, twilight-like weather, and not be moved to wondrous tears: Sharkissimo and Dixon Hill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 Yes I love that one. The Oblivion appearance of that tune is nice too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Listen to this (TGP posted it already) from the beginning...to appreciate the haunting passage from 0:58-1:39 The fact that there is similar lovely interdependence in each piece hints at the level of "architectural" attention Soule gives his music. You can't just jump midway into the music and get the full effect, you have to actually listen from the beginning. This piece I always thought was analogous to what "Aboard the Executor" was to "Imperial March." It's the Dragonborn/Skyrim theme, but a bit more brassy and a bit sharper to my ears. The superior version! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 Love the way this one unfolds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 If you like Death or Sovngarde you'll love Star Trek Insurrection! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 Meaning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 It's written similarly to action music in that score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 Hm, what cues are you thinking of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 "Not Functioning," "Out of Orbit/Something something" on the expanded release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I approve of this topic.Prey Overture : the ending of this track is rousing. Speaking of comfortable, I have a serious question: has Giacchino ever written anything as unruly, obnoxious and fun as this:https://youtu.be/VmVV2Fy1McIBecause I'd love to hear it. The end credits from Cloverfield don't do much for me, before anyone links me to it.Give Small Soldiers: The Videogame a try. Musically it's essentially everything Giacchino isn't these days. I love its balls to the walls fun-ness.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share Posted August 7, 2015 -dead link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Now THIS is a march ! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Listen to this Soule piece that plays under one of his Kickstarter updates. I assume it's a "sketch" for the symphony, and not from one of his scores I'm unfamiliar with. But how beautiful. It's wonderfully pure and clean music. Like Sibelius said, "cold spring water."https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/499808045/from-the-composer-of-skyrim-soule-symphony-no-1/posts/430577Very GreyPilgrim music. Shades of Beneath the Ice from A.I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 It's similar yeah. On 8/10/2015 at 10:07 AM, DreamTheater said: Now THIS is a march ! Right on, that's my go-to example of his music to appeal to the Williams masses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Is that Kickstarter thing still happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 Lol yeah, he's just taking a loooong time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share Posted September 15, 2015 Great piece. Aside from the main Elder Scrolls theme, there are only three or so other musical ideas that recur over the three scores, or even just within individual ones. This one first appeared in the Oblivion setting of the main theme. Love the icy string accompaniment in the reprise of the A section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Slim pickens. Sounds like a LOTR leftover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share Posted September 15, 2015 It's the most "familiar" thing he's done, that's for sure. But excellent in the context of the score, if you can let it not be ruined by other, and lesser, things in the same vein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 He seems a bit vague, even though i like the meditative pieces on ELDER SCROLLS: SKYRIM) and when he's 'on' (like the Potter video game scores), i can't really stand the old-fashioned patina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Great piece. Aside from the main Elder Scrolls theme, there are only three or so other musical ideas that recur over the three scores, or even just within individual ones. This one first appeared in the Oblivion setting of the main theme. Love the icy string accompaniment in the reprise of the A section. The contrapuntal movement in coupled octaves and the general modality is reminiscent of Hans Zimmer, Only thing missing is some synth pads and the basses and tenors vowel cycling (a-e-i-o-u etc.) ad lib. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 At the moment i'm just tired of all these chord progressions and harmonic colourings. Might change after the next trend has settled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share Posted September 15, 2015 Morrowind really features him at his most strange/inventive/colorful, since the game itself is all those things at a level that Bethesda hasn't returned to yet. I'd love VI to be set somewhere in the game world that aesthetically justifies Soule's return to that more singular sound. IV and V are certainly more "traditional" fantasy in how they feel thanks to the quasi-medieval or Norse settings and cultures. Morrowind was just weird! Some vague Eastern influence on the world and stuff but very much different than anything before or since. I dunno, does Sharky or anyone detect a particular influence on that score? It's always seemed sui generis to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Pastoral musings are what one would expect from Elder Scrolls open world music though, so it's a bit redundant to moan about not being in the mood for it as a form of criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Did you even listen to the piece Pilgrim linked first?(and yes, i of course possess and like these pieces, as the release of ES:SKYRIM is one of the lengthiest entries in my itunes library). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 I'm incredibly impressed by Soule's Main Titles for the Prisoner of Azkaban video game. Amazing cue. The best non-Williams one I've heard this week, dare I say! DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted August 25, 2016 Author Share Posted August 25, 2016 I like seeing this thread get bumped by someone who isn't me. Soule knows how to enter a musical world without imitating. DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,275 Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Those Harry Potter games have good scores! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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