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Gordy Haab's Star Wars: Battlefront (2015)

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6 hours ago, Chewy said:

And seems like he listened to other Williams' scores as well. Hope I'm not the only one hearing a real similarity between:

Nice find!

 

Also this example seems pretty similar if we are onto "War of the Worlds":

 

 

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call me crazy but I prefer Giacchino. he at least molds his own style with Williams rather than aping him completely (I find it amusing when people call his new Imperial theme a parody when you have something like Scariff Loading B which is incredibly similar to the March on the Jedi Temple). that being said it does sound nicer at times and is more technically proficient, but when it comes to enjoyment I prefer Rogue One. however, this could be an unfair comparison since I have a strong attachment to the source material and this wasn't scored to accompany a specific scene so it's less 'gripping' by nature I guess.

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36 minutes ago, DarthDementous said:

call me crazy but I prefer Giacchino. he at least molds his own style with Williams rather than aping him completely (I find it amusing when people call his new Imperial theme a parody when you have something like Scariff Loading B which is incredibly similar to the March on the Jedi Temple). that being said it does sound nicer at times and is more technically proficient, but when it comes to enjoyment I prefer Rogue One. however, this could be an unfair comparison since I have a strong attachment to the source material and this wasn't scored to accompany a specific scene so it's less 'gripping' by nature I guess.

I don't think anyone is saying this music would be better suited for Rogue One. We can't really compare the 2 scores equally anyways. The demands on and expectations for the music are totally different. Gordy Haab just does a good JW SW imitation is all and it works well for Battle Front. 

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12 minutes ago, artguy360 said:

I don't think anyone is saying this music would be better suited for Rogue One. We can't really compare the 2 scores equally anyways. The demands on and expectations for the music are totally different. Gordy Haab just does a good JW SW imitation is all and it works well for Battle Front. 

exactly, gotta look at what each composer was trying to do in order to judge them on it.

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It's all well and good saying it's pastiche, which of course it is, but if we were on the YouTube comments section now, under some John Williams Star Wars music or some such, we'd of course see the same accusations of pastiche and unoriginality levelled at Williams' own music, and it's similarity to Holst. There's no way on good earth Haab is as good Williams, but I still think there's the usual double standard going on here in regards to the sound of their music tbh. The usual chain of boring elitism (of which Williams and his film music don't sit at the top of that pyramid to begin with). End of the day, Williams is as guilty of pastiche as anyone. 

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Thats not completely fair. We Talk about pastiche when Someone composes music consciously based on Williams material. To date, Williams has never done a franchise where he is not the 1st composer, in other words he has never had to pastiche from a previous film score... 

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We probably have different definition of pastiche. For me it is when one composer has to use the themes of other composer because its the same franchise.

 

Tomorrowland, Jupiter ascendind, John Carter, etc... = no pastiche

Rogue one, MI:III, M:I Ghost protocol, Speed Racer, Jurassic World = pastiche

 

Superman II-> The gold standard of pastiche.

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19 minutes ago, Jay said:

Yea, Quint is right and Luke is using the wrong definition of pastiche if he thinks those scores represent it

 

Ok, my mistake. I suppose Mcneely's Indiana Jones and the phantom train of doom qualifies. (And JPIII to a degree. Definately Superman II, right? is it not a pastiche made from Superman the movie??)

 

Haab's music is the same constantly quoting williams passages.

 

WIlliams does not do that even if he is following a temp track. I mean he can quote a passage... or compose en entire piece that resembles somthing but compose a track contantly mixing pieces of classical music? Never heard that sorry.

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He recently released his Death Star and Scarif suits. Some very intersting references to the Prequels in there (including a section in the Death Star Suite that reprises the Droid Battle from TPM and a section in the Scarif Suite that references "The Falcon" from The Force Awakens.)

 

 

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On 10/05/2017 at 10:55 PM, Gistech said:

A week or so ago, Gordy Haab posted the Rogue One: Scarif Suite to his Soundcloud:

 

 

interesting how the little theme he brings in sounds similar to Giacchino's Jyn Erso theme.

 

it's all very pleasant to listen to but it falls into the usual trap that his Star Wars work outside SWTOR has, essentially sounding like a remix of John Williams or another one of his Star Wars works. I'm pretty fluent in his KOTFE and KOTET expansion work for SWTOR and I did hear a lot of similarities, I just feel like its a case of it feeling like an imitation rather than another style that builds off the musical language of Star Wars like Jeremy Soul's KOTOR 1 or Mark Griskey's KOTOR 2.

 

I still get a kick out of it though because I appreciate the Star Wars musical aesthetic greatly, hopefully if he does come back to score Star Wars Battlefront 2 now that there's an actual campaign we should get more interesting work out of him.

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