Incanus 5,714 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 That scene would have tied perfectly into the Gandalf/Galadriel scene in AUJ where he says Bilbo gives him hope, which is exactly what he does here.And that version of A Hobbit's Understanding sounds like it comes from Moria (specifically the track Gollum on the CR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 It's wierd, because it sounds like there is some Celeste from 1:08-1:14...Must be added by the documentary music guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 It's wierd, because it sounds like there is some Celeste from 1:08-1:14...Must be added by the documentary music guys.Yeah I wondered about that. Must be an addition by someone else as you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I thought there was something different/weird going on at the start, that's what threw me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Judging by this video, there might have been some extra Thrain stuff talking about Nazgul (something about from "nowhere they woke up?") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I think I'll refrain from watching this stuff until I get the EE set. As much as it pains me. SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Interesting to see the scene numbering for the Dol Guldur battle - it gives an idea of where it would have appeared in the two film cut! SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I hate the way these docs play with history. They put up the May 2011 date in the beginning, but then show filming with the replacement actor for Thrain hired during DOS pickups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I hate the way these docs play with history. They put up the May 2011 date in the beginning, but then show filming with the replacement actor for Thrain hired during DOS pickupsWhite washing their mistakes! Those blighters!Yeah I wish they would give the actual chronology and openly discuss when things were changed and why. I don't think it is hurtful or particularly unbecoming of the film makers to tell about the process as it actually happened.Interestingly they do not talk about adapting the book as its own documentary in any of the EE documentaries. This material is sprinkled all over the individual featurettes so we never actually hear how they began their work and how it evolved from start to finish and what was adapted and moved about. I would love to hear their justifications to all those deviations from the novel (or other source material they claim to have used). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Interesting observation. I suppose that means any kind of filming dates could be lied about in these docs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Well I'm sure the rest of the Dol Guldur stuff including the battle was filmed in May 2011, but the new Thrain stuff wasn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 There was an extra bit where Thranduil is talking with Gandalf (though maybe not to Gandalf) about wanting his White gems retrieved in the appendice "The King of Wood and Stone" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 And I refuse to watch those documentaries until the end of November when the EE is released! They keep flooding here so it is going to be an agony. SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 It's the new way of watching Blu-Ray extras, Inky! In small bits of shitty quality, on Youtube! One minute there, another minute there, and another minute there, all in glorious 240p quality!The future is here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 320x240 was fantastic quality in 1993! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 The HD of its time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Mpeg1 man!Mpeg1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Those were the days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 There and Back Again title card from the BOTFA EE Appendices:https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9aUhZcVVYNXc5c0U/view?usp=sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Neat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Probably just made for the Appendices (Though maybe using a design made when that was still the title)There is also some more deleted footage shown right before they show the Acorn scene that has more of Gandalf and Bard talking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Some shots of scenes not in the EE cuts, Thorin in the counting room through Sea of Rhun concept art:https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9WjNIZ1F4cmFPSFk/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9bGVhdmMwVWk5NFk/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9LTRMZUFRSkpQd0U/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9QmxOV3k1U1M4ZGs/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9RE1aMXg3anJuYVU/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9aURVS2hlXzJCekU/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9QnlwSjFjYmg2M3c/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9MU1OVXFRejFnSWM/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9U2xpazViODEyLUk/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9UlNTN292UmdIdkk/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9eDdZTzIzTUhERUE/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9aDJZQ0hiZmFyeVE/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9NE94bVV6VnlMSW8/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9Nk56TEN1ci1aVnc/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9TGxnNjN6QklPWm8/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9bnR6QlREN24xa1E/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9WEhuUTE5UzR3Vmc/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9c2Q5WmlnYm9rTTA/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9ckxRaEdTRXo5U2s/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9Z2MwSElaYkx4ZVE/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9YkVZR2lET2RRaDg/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9RXZaOW16cWRxbms/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9bjVIanFSTTVVc2M/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9T3F1bDR5cWJhdUE/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9cllmbTlqUDZRTnM/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9LVZ1eXU4OF9DdlU/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9LXdpWmd1MXQzWHc/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9NnhHczluYTJlZzg/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9QTdkN1BtMUMwSjA/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9clU4QUs3VHcxNDQ/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9SnRMV0ZpN0hzdDg/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9Y2laak9Tb05NXzg/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9U1hTbG5jNS1QTzQ/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9QWQ2S0QzbHpFV00/view?usp=sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 BB can use some of those palantir shots and still is his score restore video if he ever redoes that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 BB can use some of those palantir shots and still is his score restore video if he ever redoes that oneYep, the shots are longer than they look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 That's what all the girls tell me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 How was Sea of Rhûn going to come into play in the Hobbit?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 Haven't you read the book? It's an essential part of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 How was Sea of Rhûn going to come into play in the Hobbit?!! That was where Sauron was going to Rhun off to after Dol Guldur in early concepts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 But why?!!! And why would Gandalf go after him as it looks based on the pictures. Very strange elaborations on the original story and I am glad they never went to that direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 It would have at least made a smidgen more sense if it had been Saruman who pursued him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 But why?!!! And why would Gandalf go after him as it looks based on the pictures. Very strange elaborations on the original story and I am glad they never went to that direction.Why did Arwen almost fight at Helms Deep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 But why?!!! And why would Gandalf go after him as it looks based on the pictures. Very strange elaborations on the original story and I am glad they never went to that direction.Why did Arwen almost fight at Helms Deep?Because PJ was a fool, but an honest fool he remained and listened to the blood curdling cries of the fanboys and girls and changed his mind!But I would not have squandered time and energy on such an ephemeral plot thread as Sea of Rhûn, not even on conceptual art level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Gundabad got it's day in the sun (well, not quite sun, but you get my meaning) - why can't the other sights of Middle-earth get a visit? I believe they've earned it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 But why?!!! And why would Gandalf go after him as it looks based on the pictures.Because if he caught Sauron he could have ended that war right then, he had a job to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 But why?!!! And why would Gandalf go after him as it looks based on the pictures.Because if he caught Sauron he could have ended that war right then, he had a job to do.So if Sauron wiped the floor with him the first time 10-0, Gandy thought taking him on again would make a difference? "Come Sauron, I caught you a second time. The rules say you havet o surrender now." It is like the English bobbies in the old television series where their mere authority and shout "stop" would make thieves and robbers stand frozen out of sheer respect and cry "right-o guv. You nicked me!". Honestly when Sauron fled to the East he didn't hide around the next corner. The whole point was to get away and hide from the White Council. I doubt Gandalf wandering to and fro through the wide East would have helped.So I still think it is a silly and futile plot thread to try to shoehorn into the Hobbit. Makes absolutely no sense. They write and direct "The Wanderings of the Grey Pilgrim" later.But I guessing I am going to see this stuff discussed in the Appendices of BotFA EE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 Yes.Boyens originally wrote that as a joke, but PJ wanted to include it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Yes.Boyens originally wrote that as a joke, but PJ wanted to include it anyway.PJ is not a very discerning fellow is he. Everything suggested gets put into the script right away, shot half-through and then decided against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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