Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 New TV show January 2017. http://www.startrek.com/article/new-star-trek-series-premieres-january-2017 Executive Producer Alex Kurtzman. Is there a barf emoticon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Will Tasker 21 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 New TV show January 2017.Executive Producer Alex Kurtzman. Is there a barf emoticon?I don't like the new films at all (despite a really good cast), but I'm holding off on a little bit of hope in that Kurtzman is the *least* of offenders from the Abrams stable. If you told me it was Damon Lindelof, I'd probably be on a private plane to LA right now. Tallguy and Matt C 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Star Trek used to be better then everything! Will Tasker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 New TV show January 2017.Executive Producer Alex Kurtzman. Is there a barf emoticon? I don't like the new films at all (despite a really good cast), but I'm holding off on a little bit of hope in that Kurtzman is the *least* of offenders from the Abrams stable. If you told me it was Damon Lindelof, I'd probably be on a private plane to LA right now.Yes, and subsequently removed by studio security in most amusing fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Tasker 21 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 New TV show January 2017.Executive Producer Alex Kurtzman. Is there a barf emoticon? I don't like the new films at all (despite a really good cast), but I'm holding off on a little bit of hope in that Kurtzman is the *least* of offenders from the Abrams stable. If you told me it was Damon Lindelof, I'd probably be on a private plane to LA right now.Yes, and subsequently removed by studio security in most amusing fashion.I assure you, on such an errand, only the hand of God himself would stop me in such a task Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 I'm ready when you are. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 The Hand of God, reaching out to destroy Will Tasker as he seeks revenge on Damon Lindelof for not being good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Quintus 5,399 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0SR24Y20151102I heard this news 8hrs ago and expected to find a thread or conversation about it here, but there's nothing. Star Trekkers are obviously a dying breed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 37,363 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Pathetic!http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=24899&p=1182456 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 Streaming service...Alex Kurtzman...it sounds bad already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Sounds like a load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Lol you trekkers... I even used the 'forum express' to see if there was a relevant Star Trek thread in which to post AND THERE WASN'T ONE! That masturbatory fans-only thread linked above wasn't listed, so up yours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 37,363 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Quint, are you actually excited about this new show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Tasker 21 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Before we clamor onto the bandwagon - one usually steered by me because I love ragging on things - there are a few things we should be thankful of about this announcement.First off, and perhaps the most obvious one, is that we got Kurtzman instead of Orci. For those not in the know, Orci is basically a homeless crazy person. If his nutjob reactions to people's internet posts wasn't evidence enough, the fact that his original draft of Star Trek Into Darkness was even *worse* than what the film turned out as should speak volumes to the person he is. Then, he got fired from two major movie franchises (Star Trek 3 and the Amazing Spider-Man series when it was still developing a third film) and then Kurtzman made a public announcement that he and Orci have split ways professionally. To me, that guy burned a series of bridges and will likely end up in the lucrative if unpopular job of script doctor (ala Carrie Fisher). So that, right there, is something to be happy about.Secondly, this is for CBS. That may not seem like anything to you but I have some backstory to go with it because its important.After the 2009 Star Trek movie came out, JJ Abrams tried to put the franchise in a choke hold. For lack of a better term, he asked Paramount to can all prior iterations of the franchise (TOS, TNG, etc) in all its multimedia versions and push his new timeline as the one and only. This is because, since the 2009 film was by his production company (Bad Robot), a huge chunk of Star Trek money would go straight into his hip pocket. I'm not sure if Paramount was on board completely (his reluctance to direct Into Darkness seems like a shrewd ploy for him to get more sway) but CBS - who owns Star Trek on a "TV level" - told him to go jump in the coldest, deepest river he could find. Word even filtered down that the reason that there was no television tie-in to the 2009 film reboot was because CBS is *very* aware of how much money the franchise has given them and treats it with silk gloves and they didn't like the Abrams "pew pew pew" version of the characters. So without CBS's backing, Abrams couldn't get his mits any further into the pockets of Trek.(Since we're soundtrack fans here, let me point out a nice bit of evidence to that story: GNP put out a lovely expanded CD of Goldsmith's Star Trek Insurrection. It was delayed for about a year because Paramount didn't want that album AND Giacchino's Into Darkness debuting on the market at the same time. If Abrams's wishes had gone through, that Goldsmith album would've been canceled or "put on hiatus" for legal reasons but obviously Paramount wants money from old fans and new fans alike...)So, if anything, CBS making Trek is way better than Paramount. I am not sure how *not* having Rick Berman will change things (after Enterprise was canned, Berman was escorted off the Paramount lot by security, according to the actor who played Harry Kim on Voyager) but I'm willing to give it a go. I actually like Berman *most* of the time, though some of his choices are very arbitrary. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Let's not kid ourselves: in the end, CBS did it for the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Quint, are you actually excited about this new show?Couldn't care less about it Agreed. It absolutely was. The game was much better I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Idiot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Tasker 21 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Let's not kid ourselves: in the end, CBS did it for the money.Its always about money. But its about getting money for a while, not just one windfall. CBS wants your money for years, so they're going to try to appeal to old fans as much as new ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,386 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I've always been curious who the weak link in the JJ Trek movies is. There's a lot about 2009 that I enjoyed a lot. But there's just something off. And it was way off in ID. So was it Lindeloff, Orci, or Kurtzman? I've seen Prometheus, so I'm willing to give Lindeloff a lot of grief right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 They need to hit the reset button...again. I don't want to see a series set in the current movie universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Tasker 21 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I've always been curious who the weak link in the JJ Trek movies is. There's a lot about 2009 that I enjoyed a lot. But there's just something off. And it was way off in ID. So was it Lindeloff, Orci, or Kurtzman? I've seen Prometheus, so I'm willing to give Lindeloff a lot of grief right there.A good question. I'd say they're all guilty to some extent. though JJ Abrams is likely the bandleader here.STID suffers badly from Orci's personal slant: he's a hardcore (I mean HARDCORE) Truther / Conspiracy person and the film was written as a "post-9/11 America" analogy. At some point, rewrites softened the film a bit: originally it was that Starfleet as an entity was evil, but then they put the onus on the Admiral played by Peter Weller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I've always been curious who the weak link in the JJ Trek movies is. There's a lot about 2009 that I enjoyed a lot. But there's just something off. And it was way off in ID. So was it Lindeloff, Orci, or Kurtzman? I've seen Prometheus, so I'm willing to give Lindeloff a lot of grief right there.The weakest link in the rebooted Trek movies are the scripts. The directing, acting, editing, cinematography, special effects, and music are all top notch. The problem is the stories they are telling.Ultimately, its hard to know specifically who to blame for that. You can only blame the writers if what we are seeing is their intended vision that they got the directors and producers to agree to make. But usually for big movies like this, you have more of a case of the director, or even studio execs telling the writers what to write. So who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I agree. The scripts are the weakest links.I'm still amazed they managed to get a cast together who are totally acceptable replacements for actors who have played those roles for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 The last 3-4 Trek movies, even those predating Abrams, are basically about villains who want revenge with superweapons or something which usually look like Annorax's ship from Star Trek: Voyager. Yes, Wrath of Khan is beloved and a great sequel, but stop ripping it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Yes. How about some regular wondrous exploration? I propose a Malick Trek film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Tasker 21 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I agree. The scripts are the weakest links.I'm still amazed they managed to get a cast together who are totally acceptable replacements for actors who have played those roles for decades.I agree completely but for some reason still can't stand the lady who plays Uhura this time around? Maybe its me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,386 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I've always been curious who the weak link in the JJ Trek movies is. There's a lot about 2009 that I enjoyed a lot. But there's just something off. And it was way off in ID. So was it Lindeloff, Orci, or Kurtzman? I've seen Prometheus, so I'm willing to give Lindeloff a lot of grief right there. The weakest link in the rebooted Trek movies are the scripts. The directing, acting, editing, cinematography, special effects, and music are all top notch. The problem is the stories they are telling.Ultimately, its hard to know specifically who to blame for that. You can only blame the writers if what we are seeing is their intended vision that they got the directors and producers to agree to make. But usually for big movies like this, you have more of a case of the director, or even studio execs telling the writers what to write. So who knows.I love the new cast. Especially Pine. A good question. I'd say they're all guilty to some extent. though JJ Abrams is likely the bandleader here.STID suffers badly from Orci's personal slant: he's a hardcore (I mean HARDCORE) Truther / Conspiracy person and the film was written as a "post-9/11 America" analogy. At some point, rewrites softened the film a bit: originally it was that Starfleet as an entity was evil, but then they put the onus on the Admiral played by Peter Weller.Ugh. I saw STID and Iron Man 3 almost back to back. That was not a good week. I never knew how much of that came from Orci. (I did think it was really weird that STID was criticized for having no message.)So given that, maybe Kurtzman is our best bet?I would LOVE to see a Star Trek movie more like Corbomite Maneuver. But then, people always complain about Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 They need to hit the reset button...again. I don't want to see a series set in the current movie universe.Star Trek Beyond might be good. They dumped the writers and got some fresh blood behind the camera. Will Tasker and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 One of the neat things about a new show means possible appearances by characters from the other series. Even if the show sucks, that alone makes me excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 7 Things We Want In The New Star Trek TV Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Bryan Fuller hired as showrunner for new Star Trek series Suddenly feel a lot better about this show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 RIP Hannibal, then! Fuller's an awesome writer, here's hoping he gets full control on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 He did good work on DS9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I love all his TV shows (Wonderfalls, Pushing Daisies, Hannibal, even Mockingbird Lane) - though I never saw Dead Like Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I recall watching a few eps of that back in the day. Pretty good IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Great news. Pushing Daisies is among my all time favourite TV things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Have you seen Wonderfalls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Okay, now I'm really starting to get excited.Nicholas Meyers joins new Star Trek TV series as writer and executive producer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Holy shit dude. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Star Trek is saved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I mean, we're getting Fuller working with Meyer. This is the stuff dreams are made of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Star Trek will be better then everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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