A24 4,327 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Oh, yes, I have! Yesterday! To prove it to you, it ends with one more and last spore jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Curious to see where they ended up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 They ended up into the far future, Steef! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,689 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 They're in a parallel universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I'm 99.9% sure they ended up in the Mirror Universe. OneBuckFilms 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,689 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Wherever it is, Lorca certainly didn't enter the coordinates to Starbase 48 when he plotted that jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Lorca and Stamets were discussing alternate universes earlier in the episode. 3 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: Wherever it is, Lorca certainly didn't enter the coordinates to Starbase 48 when he plotted that jump. Alex should like that. The female Admiral he screwed over came back, so Lorca had to run to safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Smart of Lorca! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Or was it? Tune in January 8, 2018! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 At least Lorca makes it interesting, which I can't say about Michael & Ash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,689 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: Or was it? Tune in January 8, 2018! What a change of heart about this show you've had Steef! Now, go watch Orville! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 What change of heart? At no point have I ever claimed I would stop watching DSC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,178 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 5 hours ago, Nick1066 said: In fact I'd like to just see it become more of a genuine ensemble like the other shows, with the Captain being the character everyone else pivots around. I'd like to see some of the other characters actually become characters. Most of the bridge crew is still nothing more than a set of recurring faces. Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I don't think they're supposed to be anything more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,178 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Maybe, and I guess that would fit Meyer's original concept, but despite all its confusion and identity crises, STD is still too anchored in the Trek series concept to simply say that a large part of the regular bridge crew is just backdrop. Not when the main characters are all high ranking and/or bridge officers. Every recurring character in Quark's had more character than these guys.... and Morn had more lines than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 You mean Fuller"s original concept? Neither Burnham or Tilly are high ranking officers. Stamets and the Doc certainly arent bridge officers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,178 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 9 hours ago, Stefancos said: You mean Fuller"s original concept? Both of them, I guess. 9 hours ago, Stefancos said: Neither Burnham or Tilly are high ranking officers. Stamets and the Doc certainly arent bridge officers. Not Tilly, no. Stamets seems to be chief science guy or something, and the Doc is the Doc. It occurs to me that I actually have no idea *what* Burnham's rank or official role is. But whenever we see her, she's clearly dealing with "important" stuff, so if she isn't high ranking, she at least has some special status. If the original concept was to show a "officer-level plot" from the view of (hierarchically) minor characters, there really isn't much to see of that. Data's Day had more and better insights into the lives of the common starship folk than the entire STD series so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Burnham, after the first 2 episodes is basically as "asset". No rank, since she was stripped of her original one after becoming a mutineer. Basically put to work by Lorca and eventually becoming a "science specialist". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,689 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: Data's Day had more and better insights into the lives of the common starship folk than the entire STD series so far. Lower Decks is probably the episode that did this the best. Data's Day is still from the POV of a high ranking officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,178 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Nick1066 said: Lower Decks is probably the episode that did this the best. Data's Day is still from the POV of a high ranking officer. So STD is not even second best at it. 4 hours ago, Stefancos said: Burnham, after the first 2 episodes is basically as "asset". No rank, since she was stripped of her original one after becoming a mutineer. Basically put to work by Lorca and eventually becoming a "science specialist". The thing is, one might argue that the bridge crew is made up of non-characters if this was a character centric show from the POV of a non-bridge character. But it isn't, or at least it's only partly. Lorca is very much a main character and a POV, and surely to him the other bridge officers are, if not friends like on TNG, at least familiar people who he regularly interacts with, and who she should at least see a bit more of as part of that relationship. But they're really nothing more than command receivers. And Lorca doesn't even seem to address them directly when giving most of his commands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 There's a distinct lack of character interaction as an ensemble. When do we see Lorca and Saru working together? Does Lorcs even know who Tilly is? idril 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,689 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Yeah. There are individual connections between characters, and definitely characters working together, but I get no sense of camaraderie among the crew as a whole. In every iteration of Star Trek the crew has felt like a family, and you just don't get that here. I would just dismiss that as "it's only nine episodes in", but frankly as painful as some of the first nine episodes of TNG, DS9 & VOY were, by that time you already felt like they were a genuine crew working towards a common goal. So while Discovery may get better, I'm not sure that aspect of it will change. Maybe that's just not how the show is designed. idril 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 But will Jason Isaacs still be here season 2? Martin-Green was told her character would eventually become Captain of the ship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,689 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 If Isaacs goes my interest in this show will take a serious hit. Every Trek show has had a high caliber actor in that role. Martin-Green is fine, but she's just not there yet and lacks the pure presence that Shatner, Stewart, Brooks, Mulgrew & Bakula had. One thing Trek has always done really well is cast their lead. idril 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Quote “STAR TREK: DISCOVERY” ORIGINAL SERIES SOUNDTRACK AVAILABLE GLOBALLY ON FRIDAY, DEC. 15 Soundtrack Features Original Music by Emmy® Award-Winning Composer Jeff Russo Available Digitally, With CD and Vinyl Album Following in Early 2018 Dec. 5, 2017 – CBS Television Studios announced today the release of the original score of the CBS All Access series STAR TREK: DISCOVERY, which premiered earlier this fall. The album, featuring the score by Emmy Award-winning composer Jeff Russo and distributed by Lakeshore Records, will be available digitally on Friday, Dec. 15, with presales beginning Friday, Dec. 8. The soundtrack will be available as a CD and vinyl album in early 2018. “Grand, glorious, hopeful, heartbreaking, intimate, bittersweet, tense, soaring, surprising. Over 51 years, in its many iterations, there's been no shortage of adjectives to describe the music of Star Trek,” said co-creator Alex Kurtzman. “On the other hand, the list of composers capable of capturing them all is short, and this is where Jeff Russo comes in. Jeff manages to hold each note in beautiful balance, evoking the nostalgia of Alexander Courage's original theme while scoring Discovery with his own unique ear and heart. We're lucky to have him, and we hope you'll love his music as much as we do.” “The producers and I talked a lot about telling this story from an emotional point of view,” explained Russo. “Relationships play a big role in this incarnation of the series, so trying to be true to that and create themes that connect characters is important.” SOUNDTRACK LIST: 1. MAlN TITLE (AIRED VERSION) 2. WE COME IN PEACE 3. FIRST OFFICER'S LOG 4. I'LL GO 5. THE DAY IS SAVED 6. TORCHBEARER 7. PTSD 8. PERSISTENCE 9. STRANDED 10. WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY THAT? 11. I CAN'T DANCE 12. CAPTAIN MUDD 13. STELLA 14. FACING OFF 15. UNDETERMINED 16. WATCH THE STARS FALL 17. WEAKENED SHIELDS 18. WHAT'S HAPPENING? 19. PERSONAL LOG 20. THE CHARGE OF MUTINY 21. MAIN TITLE (EXTENDED) OneBuckFilms 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 It's an official press release Lakeshore Records sent out; It's been shared to many places: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=124073&forumID=1&archive=0 http://www.startrek.com/article/discovery-soundtrack-set-for-release https://www.trektoday.com/content/2017/12/star-trek-discovery-soundtrack-coming-soon/ https://trekmovie.com/2017/12/05/star-trek-discovery-soundtrack-coming-december-15/ http://trekcore.com/blog/2017/12/first-star-trek-discovery-soundtrack-due-this-month/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Dude, it's perfectly normal and polite to link your source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 The piping on the shoulders and the metallic plastic on the sides of the uniforms are awful in this (gold in particular is camp AF), I can already see how dated these costumes are going to look in 10-15 years. It's pretty surprising that somebody in charge approved these designs actually. TNG and DS9 have some dubious costume design choices when you look back, but one thing they got bang on target was the starfleet uniforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,689 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Quintus said: The piping on the shoulders and the metallic plastic on the sides of the uniforms are awful in this (gold in particular is camp AF), I can already see how dated these costumes are going to look in 10-15 years. It's pretty surprising that somebody in charge approved these designs actually. TNG and DS9 have some dubious costume design choices when you look back, but one thing they got bang on target was the starfleet uniforms. I agree the gold doesn't look good. Still an upgrade of the blue overalls from Enterprise though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 STD is back from its hiatus. Anyone seen it yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 You know, they make ointment for your STD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Mike had a great theory about the Lorca being his evil "Mirror" version in the latest episode. Shame that we basically get another Mirror Mirror... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 On 08/01/2018 at 12:08 PM, Arpy said: STD is back from its hiatus. Anyone seen it yet? Wait this is back again already? I thought I was going to be done soon for another year at least ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I told you atleast twice that Discovery was on a mid-season break and would resume in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Arpy said: Mike had a great theory about the Lorca being his evil "Mirror" version in the latest episode. Shame that we basically get another Mirror Mirror... It is not another mirror mirror. Its more likely it is a mirror mirror mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 31 minutes ago, Stefancos said: I told you atleast twice that Discovery was on a mid-season break and would resume in January. With only three episodes left I'd had my hopes up that I'd be done soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 It resumed on Sunday. I have seen it and after Sunday's episode I'm more convinced now that Discovery is from a SLIGHTLY alternate reality from the main established prime universe. Despite that the producers say it's from the established prime universe but as I said after Sunday's episode I really question that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 There is NO other way to explain the inconsistencies between STD and TOS. Technology far more advanced, the look and feel of the Kelvin timeline, I just don't understand why they couldn't say it was an alternate universe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idril 86 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 What did everyone think of 'Despite Yourself'? I was a little disappointed not to discover that we had been in the Mirror Universe all along.. But that said, I actually enjoyed this episode. The uniforms were so nice! God I wish they would just wear those the whole time. Still not particularly interested in Michael Burnham but I did find Ash Tyler more interesting this episode. I was a little surprised to find myself invested in his personal conflict actually. Overall there was a sense of fun here as well as danger and some twists and turns. It would be better if I actually cared more about the crew overall in this show but I'm trying to be patient. I still think Lorca is from the MU originally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 8 hours ago, idril said: What did everyone think of 'Despite Yourself'? I was a little disappointed not to discover that we had been in the Mirror Universe all along.. But that said, I actually enjoyed this episode. The uniforms were so nice! God I wish they would just wear those the whole time. Still not particularly interested in Michael Burnham but I did find Ash Tyler more interesting this episode. I was a little surprised to find myself invested in his personal conflict actually. Overall there was a sense of fun here as well as danger and some twists and turns. It would be better if I actually cared more about the crew overall in this show but I'm trying to be patient. I still think Lorca is from the MU originally. I think that as well with Lorca. The explanation of his supposed death and the way how Lorca survived the destruction of his ship from where Discovery originated from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 God, the terran empire was infodumped in one episode that basically rebooted the show. Jason Isaacs is awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idril 86 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 The question is how much of a reboot will this be. How long are we going to get to hang out in the MU? Is this the rest of the season or will they never return (thus explaining why no one ever has heard of the MU or super-fast travel in TOS). To be honest I'm sure they will return to the ordinary world but I am much more interested in staying in the MU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 The Wolf Inside The Burnham/Ash romance scene early in the ep is awful. The two actors have ZERO chemistry together. But everything else was good. I liked the moral complications Burnham had to deal with. I liked the way they dealt with Ash/Voq here. Some weird stuff though. Stamets dies, but of course he doesn't (they're not gonna kill 2 gay characters in two eps). Some of the CGI looked silly and the ep has no less then 5 shots of the CGI camera going though ships hull, 4 of those in the teaser. Discoveries visual style remains rather random. But this is a lot of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 You people should learn to have patience. You say you don't like Discovery, but when push comes to shove, you can't wait to watch it. Fanboys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 What are you talking about? It's still a very flawed show, that seems to be getting a little better. Have you even watched it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, Stefancos said: What are you talking about? Okay, I'll Nolanize my simple post for you. You all complain about Discovery (except Thor) and yet as soon as the next episode airs, you' re all sitting in front of the TV, unlike me who waits until all the episodes have aired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I haven't complained about Discovery, i've stated my opinion about it. But I've never said this show shouldn't exist or that I wouldn't watch it. That's for the The Last Jedi hating Wars fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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