Jay 37,287 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Our fourth release is a very special one, for obvious reasons.Twenty years ago James Horner wrote one of his finest scores. Now, we present to you this definitive editionBRAVEHEART: LIMITED EDITION (2-CD SET) LLLCD 1375Music by James HornerLimited Edition of 3000 UnitsRETAIL PRICE: $29.98La-La Land Records, Icon Productions, Paramount Pictures and Universal Music Special Markets proudly celebrate the 20th Anniversary of the 1995 historical epic BRAVEHEART with an expanded and remastered 2-CD limited edition release of renowned composer James Horners (ALIENS, GLORY, SEARCHING FOR BOBBY FISCHER, TITANIC) original motion picture score. The 1995 Best Picture winner, starring Mel Gibson, Sophie Marceau and Patrick McGoohan, and directed by Mel Gibson, continues to endure today as a cinematic landmark and Mr. Horners indelible, Oscar-nominated score ranks among his finest thrilling, dramatic, romantic - expertly supporting and advancing plot, character and heartfelt emotion in equal measure. Produced by Dan Goldwasser and Mike Matessino, and mastered by Matessino from Paramount vault elements, this 2-CD expanded presentation has a total running time of nearly 2 hours and 10 minutes and contains previously unreleased music, as well as source music tracks and additional alternate cues. Exclusive, in-depth liner notes from writer Jeff Bond, featuring new interview comments from director/star Mel Gibson, and bold art direction from Jim Titus complement this deluxe release, marking this classic films anniversary and composer James Horners rich legacy. This limited edition release of 3000 units is dedicated to James Horners memory.TRACK LISTING:DISC 1 (Total Time: 67:42)1 Logo / Main Title 3:382 Hanging of the Peacemakers* 1:213 Williams Father Leaves to Fight* :594 A Fathers Final Return* 2:565 A Gift of a Thistle 1:396 Outlawed Tunes on Outlawed Pipes 2:067 Royal Wedding* / Domino Fidelium 2:108 Grown Wallace Arrives* 1:199 Prima Noctes 1:5810 Wallace Courts Murron 4:2911 The Secret Wedding 6:3612 Attack on Murron 3:0213 Revenge (extended version)+ 6:4614 Murrons Burial 2:1715 Wallace on the Move* / Run to the Stronghold* 3:2616 Making Plans / Gathering the Clans (extended version)+ 2:1317 Sons of Scotland 6:2218 The Battle of Stirling (extended version)+ 6:1819 Wallace Moves on York* 1:2520 Wallaces Dream* 2:1321 Vision of Murron 1:5522 The Princess Was a Pawn* / Wallace Moves Again* 2:38DISC 2 (Total Time: 61:27)1 Falkirk 4:082 Betrayal and Desolation 7:513 Mornays Dream 1:194 The Legend Spreads* 1:135 The Fire Trap* 1:166 Romantic Alliance* 2:257 Wallace Is Caught* 1:438 The Princess Pleads for Wallaces Life (film version)* 3:399 Wallace to the Scaffold* 1:2210 Freedom / The Execution / Bannockburn 7:2311 End Credits 7:1512 For the Love of a Princess 4:11Source Music:13 Scottis* Wedding Music 1:2514 Drum Roll* / Sleepy Maggy* 1:13Additional Music:15 Main Title (album version) 2:5516 Sons of Scotland (alternate)+ 6:2117 The Battle of Stirling (alternate opening)* 2:0618 The Princess Pleads for Wallaces Life (album version) 3:43Total Album Time: 129:09* Previously unreleased+ Contains previously unreleased materialhttps://www.facebook.com/lalalandrecords/photos/np.1448611350741012.502903435/10153864674573755/?type=3&theater Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,301 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Brilliant! Day one purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Holy bottlecap Batman! I'll get this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Drum Roll! My most wanted unreleased cue from any score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Drum Roll! My most wanted unreleased cue from any score!I thought it was the Typewriter from Jaws, 24 seconds of sublime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 This looks like a wonderful release. But... I can't even make my way through the original 1995 soundtrack album. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 This looks like a wonderful release. But... I can't even make my way through the original 1995 soundtrack album. KarolSeriously man, have you not ever dreamt of owning that Drum Roll/Sleepy Maggy piece from the film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I can't remember the film. Seen it only once about 18 years ago.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Does it contain the unreleased "for the love of a princess" bit the Hornershriners were obsessing about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted November 27, 2015 Author Share Posted November 27, 2015 Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 So how complete is this expanded release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 So how complete is this expanded release?I am assuming it is complete despite the way LLL names their releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 That would be great. Would be better if they just called it 'complete score'. Deleting my previous albums now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 OMG... It was rumored, but now it's official. 2+ hours of absolutely gorgeous and thrilling music.I've always preferred the film version of the main title with that haunting opening on synths. Immediately puts me in the right mood!I'll be able to throw away my customized and way shorter edition.In the year Horner dies his number one masterpiece (IMO) gets the best possible treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Deleting my previous albums now!Why? The OST is a great album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Could have been 20 minutes shorter, though. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,672 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 That would be great. Would be better if they just called it 'complete score'. Deleting my previous albums now!I think they stopped doing that because people kept complaining that some small morsel was left off (it would be hypocritical to deny I was one of those people).Like crocodile, I can't make it through the original album. Not sure how 2 hours of this will play. I do however have a DVD-rip of what I assume is A Father's Final Return (synth-based cue right at the beginning). Corellian2019 and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I'm becoming more of an OST completist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Because I have issues with OSTs as soon as expanded releases come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 They're important pieces of the score's history. The older mastering (more dynamic in the 80s), the old-school artwork, the composer's desired way for the music to be heard, the fact that you own something that came out at the same time as the movie (or at least as close as possible to the film's release). bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 They're important pieces of the score's history. The older mastering (more dynamic in the 80s), the old-school artwork, the composer's desired way for the music to be heard, the fact that you own something that came out at the same time as the movie (or at least as close as possible to the film's release).Yeah yeah yeah, whatever man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted November 27, 2015 Author Share Posted November 27, 2015 So how complete is this expanded release?That would be great. Would be better if they just called it 'complete score'.The release looks pretty complete to me.As for the name, LLL decided years ago now that they would never label any edition as "Complete" even if they were 100% sure it was, because of vocal complainers would would raise arms when one 10 second unused synth overlay from a bootleg or some alternate way a cue was edited in the film was not included, or whatever. So most LLL releases that are called "Expanded" are actually complete, no worries. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I will buy this one because I never bought the OST. It was legal when Napster was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Will buy it even though i probably don't need it. It's fan duty of the highest order. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 THIS IS AMAZING. Biggest release of their batch for me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,739 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I'm sure there will be tracks I drop from the playlist -- there were with the OST -- but I'm still drawn to this one for its sound and comprehensiveness. No longer will there be multiple versions of this score on my shelf haha!Fantastic cover too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted November 27, 2015 Author Share Posted November 27, 2015 The only thing that surprises me about this release is that its 3,000 units and not 5,000. This will be the first title out of this year's batch to sell out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 cool, Do you think this and the pagemaster bodes well for a Willow release?Instant buy LLL, i tell you.So how complete is this expanded release?That would be great. Would be better if they just called it 'complete score'.The release looks pretty complete to me.As for the name, LLL decided years ago now that they would never label any edition as "Complete" even if they were 100% sure it was, because of vocal complainers would would raise arms when one 10 second unused synth overlay from a bootleg or some alternate way a cue was edited in the film was not included, or whatever. So most LLL releases that are called "Expanded" are actually complete, no worries.Let's be fair.It's not just us ungrateful score collectors.This way they also cover their asses if they find new elements and release the true complete score years later bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 The only thing that surprises me about this release is that its 3,000 units and not 5,000. This will be the first title out of this year's batch to sell out.Could very well be. It remains popular outside of general film music fandom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I know score-lovers are supposed to salivate over this release, and I'm truly happy for them, especially Horner fans since it's been a tough year emotionally, but this score doesn't really do much for me as a stand-alone experience. Nice pastoral main theme though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 This will be a buy for sure. I just hope there will be a copy of it still December 2nd despite going up for sale December 1st. I don't get any money until the 2nd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Definitely buying this on day one! Hopefully it'll arrive in Ireland in time for Xmas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 384 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I do however have a DVD-rip of what I assume is A Father's Final Return (synth-based cue right at the beginning).Yes! I'll be happy to finally hear that unreleased highlight without wind or sound effects. It's a beautiful little theme that reappears at 4:41 of "Sons of Scotland", and throughout the end credits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I can't remember the film. Seen it only once about 18 years ago.From a historical perspective, it's hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Just like SPARTACUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I don't think Spartacus really counts as a great film anyway. Kubrick never regarded it as good.Karol bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Oh, it is a very good film as far as these things go. But historical accuracy almost always goes against the dramatic requirements of motion pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 That is why I never really valued historical epics as a genre. Or any "based on real events" films, for that matter. Seems like most of them are worthless in that regard.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Gladiator happened okay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I wish they would do Titanic like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 They will, at some point in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Gladiator happened okay!A great film.Not historically accurate in any way shape or form though.I cringe every time I watch it and it gets referred to as "the colosseum". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I already have a 2-CD Titanic. And all the good bits from the sinking are available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I want a version of Titanic that doesn't have dialogue and sound effects, unrelated recordings of period music, inferior re-recordings and various memorable cues still not included despite an overabundance of a bunch of other crap I didn't want and would never listen to.(sorry, Horner) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I wish they would do Titanic like this.I am really happy with the OST and it is enough music from the film as I rarely listen to even the OST these days. At first I was tempted to get this Braveheart release for completeness' sake but now I am leaning toward no after all. The OST is fine for me in that case too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Good... gooooood... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 There are some pieces i would choose over the redundancies on the official - which also has strange distortions in the rear end - and the film version of the 'For the Love of a Princess' still is a top cue i miss, so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 does the hornershrine still exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 HornerShrine allowed is not! Is forum forbidden! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 Some info from Mike Matessino about this release Posted: Nov 30, 2015 - 1:46 AM By: mxmx (Member)I'm wondering if anyone who worked on the new release can comment about the audio. The North American release (green cover) had a lot of clipping whenever the bass got intense. Cues like 'Attack on Murron', 'Mornay's Dream' and the ending of 'Bannockburn' have it. The international release (black cover) eliminated most of the clipping but has swapped audio channels and actually sounds correct because of it. Are the clipping issues inherent in the recording at all since some were eliminated from the black cover release but not all? Also for cues like "The Secret Wedding" there were two different takes used, one on the first album, the second being the film version which was heard on the "More Music from" follow up. The only difference between the two are in Tony Hinnigan's quena solos, as the film version was more loosely performed (if that makes sense) while the first album version was more musically precise. I'm betting on the film version for the new release but I just wanted to mention it in case anyone could explain why there was such a subtle difference between them. At the risk of compounding a felony, I'll address the Braveheart questions here. Re: "The Secret Wedding" - as there is no track with that title on the "More Music" release, can you explain what music you're looking for? Was it something that was pulled right off the film? As I recall, the track in the main program is the same as the one on the original album. Dan Goldwasser assembled the program and he delivered pre-mastered mixes to me that did not show any signs of clipping. If anything, the levels were very low and it seemed that this was the case on the original album as well. I came onto the project because La-La Land wanted Mr. Horner's blessing for the release, and as I was already dealing with his representatives on the Williams and Silvestri projects (the ones released over the past few weeks) as well as two other Horner titles (Pagemaster and another coming early next year), I relayed the request and was then asked to work on the project and master it. Mr. Horner approved the release less than two weeks before the tragic accident. So it is dedicated to him and contains a lovely page with memorial notes from Mel Gibson and from James' longtime music editor Jim Henrikson. Everyone who worked on it is very proud of it. Dan did a great assembly and everything available to us was included with the exception of one bagpipe source track that we were asked to cut. Mike M. http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=112880&forumID=1&archive=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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