Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Great news! I'm now sure I'll fall in love with this music tomorrow!! Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Tasker 21 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 The Arena is an awesome track from that OST.I never cared much for AOTC but the score is gangbusters, especially that speeder chase cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I love Across the Stars, Love Theme/The Arena, and Williams' music for the speeder chase at the beginning. More highlights there than in ROTS, at least for me. Jacck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I love Across the Stars, Love Theme/The Arena, and Williams' music for the speeder chase at the beginning. More highlights there than in ROTS, at least for me.Well, not for me! ROTS for the win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I adore the Tintin score. And those two first tracks are treasures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I love Across the Stars, Love Theme/The Arena, and Williams' music for the speeder chase at the beginning. More highlights there than in ROTS, at least for me.Well, not for me! ROTS for the win!You mean overall, or just specific cues?I adore the Tintin score. And those two first tracks are treasuresI like the Tintin score as well. That first track demonstrates his background as a jazz musician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Too bad the AOTC OST sounds so flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I'm sad now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I'm sad now. Come now. Cheer up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I'm sad now. Come now. Cheer up.Okay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Okay, so that wasn't the advice you wanted.But how will being sad help you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I'm sad now. ANH was before Williams truly found his footing, and TFA was after Williams truly lost it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Okay, so that wasn't the advice you wanted.But how will being sad help you?It will temper my expectations so I'm not more sad after I see the film later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I love Across the Stars, Love Theme/The Arena, and Williams' music for the speeder chase at the beginning. More highlights there than in ROTS, at least for me. Well, not for me! ROTS for the win! You mean overall, or just specific cues?Compared to AOTC, both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Okay, so that wasn't the advice you wanted.But how will being sad help you?It will temper my expectations so I'm not more sad after I see the film later...So you're basically lowering your expectations to where you can take any disappointment that comes at you?But at the same time, you'll have a much higher ceiling for your excitement.Did I divine your intentions correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Okay, so that wasn't the advice you wanted.But how will being sad help you?It will temper my expectations so I'm not more sad after I see the film later...So you're basically lowering your expectations to where you can take any disappointment that comes at you?But at the same time, you'll have a much higher ceiling for your excitement.Did I divine your intentions correctly?yeah.Looking on the bright side, I'll at least have a new okay Williams score to play video games to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 So how does it compare to Michael Giacchino's Star Trek?Heh heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Oh, I;m sure it'll be better than any non-Lost Giacchino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Looking on the bright side, I'll at least have a new okay Williams score to play video games to...Not if it sucks...Well, let's hope it doesn't come to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 And you actually believe him?Come on, what does a Norse god know about the music of us mortals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Well, then you're an idiot!I'm human. There's a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 It doesn't suck. Far from it. It simply didn't live up to my expectations, thematically and structurally. I'm all prepared for re-evaluating (and hopefully liking) the score once the album is out. Maybe the film experience was totally misleading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Will Dan Hobgood like it? Will Tasker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Well, then you're an idiot!I'm human. There's a difference.There's no difference when it comes to synonyms.Except "god" and "human" aren't synonyms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 A film critic seem to think Williams is a lock for an Oscar nomination:"After Dolby intros by Disney chairman and CEO Bob Iger, who plunked down $4 billion to buy Lucasfilm because of the potential value of the "Star Wars" franchise, Disney studio head Alan Horn, and Lucasfilm chief and former Steven Spielberg producer Kathleen Kennedy, who recalled hiring 16-year-old J.J. Abrams to edit some Spielberg Super 8 films they had found, Abrams set up standing ovations for "Star Wars" creator George Lucas and 83-year-old composer John Williams, who scored all the "Star Wars" films (he won five times, including "Star Wars") and will surely land his 50th Oscar nomination for this one (he already holds the record as the most nominated person ever). Other Oscar prospects? Visual Effects, I'd say."http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/inside-star-wars-the-force-awakens-premiere-20151215Wrong on the "ever" note though, that would be Disney, should be living not ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRIGA01 32 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Im torn on wt to think as iv noticed that most people on here are negative even about JW's most incredible work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 MOST people on THIS BOARD are negative about JW scores? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonTHX 21 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 There's cool unreleased stuff in AmistadAmistad is one of JW's most under-appreciated scores by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Some day I'll see that movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I watched it a few months ago. There are loads of great unreleased cues. Would love a treatment by Intrada or LLL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 The problem is that JW has set the bar so high, I can't remember the last time I was blown away by anything he's written (maybe Buckbeak's Flight?). But I just excited to hear new JW Star Wars music, I never thought this would happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonTHX 21 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Amistad the movie didn't do anything for me but that music - divine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 The problem is that JW has set the bar so high, I can't remember the last time I was blown away by anything he's written (maybe Buckbeak's Flight?). But I just excited to hear new JW Star Wars music, I never thought this would happen.If bars couldn't be set so high, what drives humanity to do better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 The problem is that JW has set the bar so high, I can't remember the last time I was blown away by anything he's written (maybe Buckbeak's Flight?). But I just excited to hear new JW Star Wars music, I never thought this would happen.I could have written that myself.Amistad the movie didn't do anything for me but that music - divine.It's a decent film and a very good score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaPeanuts 0 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I'm sad now. ANH was before Williams truly found his footing, and TFA was after Williams truly lost it.I think ANH is one of the top of the Star Wars soundtracks, it has a more symphonic feel to me. Prequel trilogies are forgettable to me and the music came off to me as overproduced especially the action pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 If bars are set too high, musicians won't be able to read them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 If bars are set too high, musicians won't be able to read them.Those would be ledger lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Tasker 21 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I'm sad now. ANH was before Williams truly found his footing, and TFA was after Williams truly lost it.I think ANH is one of the top of the Star Wars soundtracks, it has a more symphonic feel to me. Prequel trilogies are forgettable to me and the music came off to me as overproduced especially the action pieces.I sort of feel you on this.The greatest thing about Williams's output in film is that it doesn't seem like film music; it's allowed to breathe and take its time and develop. That isn't to say other composers didn't (Goldsmith, Herrmann, Rozsa especially) but the nature of film often abuses music and chips away at it and really doesn't do it justice (see: How Ridley Scott treated Jerry's music on Alien).But somehow Johnny's seems to thrive and sound more like concert work that just happens to work in a film instead of the other way around. Something about his approach changed around the first Harry Potter or The Patriot where he stopped writing so "broadly" and started writing "to the edits", which I imagine is why we have over two dozen short cues on this new album, which, though will certainly have IMMENSE quality to them, will lack that wide sweep of "scenery meets music" that even the prequels had.The days of a Star Wars film having a cue like "Binary Sunset" are over, I'm afraid. DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,278 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 The problem is that JW has set the bar so high, I can't remember the last time I was blown away by anything he's written (maybe Buckbeak's Flight?). But I just excited to hear new JW Star Wars music, I never thought this would happen.The great stuff comes in little moments now, I would say. It's hard for an entire piece or score to make me think "WOW!" against his highest standard, but there are moments in all his recent scores where I just have to smile. That cool bass clarinet/harpsichord riff at the beginning of "The Adventures of Tintin," the crazy piano bouncing around in "Snowy's Theme," the multiple false endings of "The Adventure Continues," little dramatic moments like the Homecoming theme on solo piano with Albert/Joey silhouetted against the sunset or the slow pull-back of Abe Lincoln reading to his son with that beautiful melody on oboe. Stuff like that still makes it all worth it. Jacck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 The problem is that JW has set the bar so high, I can't remember the last time I was blown away by anything he's written (maybe Buckbeak's Flight?). But I just excited to hear new JW Star Wars music, I never thought this would happen.The great stuff comes in little moments now, I would say. It's hard for an entire piece or score to make me think "WOW!" against his highest standard, but there are moments in all his recent scores where I just have to smile. That cool bass clarinet/harpsichord riff at the beginning of "The Adventures of Tintin," the crazy piano bouncing around in "Snowy's Theme," the multiple false endings of "The Adventure Continues," little dramatic moments like the Homecoming theme on solo piano with Albert/Joey silhouetted against the sunset or the slow pull-back of Abe Lincoln reading to his son with that beautiful melody on oboe. Stuff like that still makes it all worth it.And I believe that it's ideal that the great stuff comes in little moments. Seriously, there is such a thing as musical acclimation. Regardless of mastery, how long can a composer hold an audience's plateau of excitement over the course of an entire work?And you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned those musical moments in Tintin and Lincoln (i.e. the instrumental riffs, the false cadences, the instrumental solos, etc.), but that's the average take-away from a musical score by any given audience member: pockets of excitement. It's one thing to say "Oh, I loved that warm french horn solo" or "That string harmony in the first movement was just mesmerizing", but when was the last time you genuinely loved every minute and every note of an entire score? DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 If bars are set too high, musicians won't be able to read them. Those would be ledger lines.So we'd better transpose our bars, or use a different clef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 If bars are set too high, musicians won't be able to read them. Those would be ledger lines.So we'd better transpose our bars, or use a different clef.A simple 8va or 15ma would do. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 "The score is medicore. Nothing great."http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2488496/board/thread/251554006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 "The score is medicore. Nothing great."http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2488496/board/thread/251554006That user is on my ignore list so I don't trust his opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 "The score is medicore. Nothing great."http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2488496/board/thread/251554006The user's breadth of film music knowledge is mediocre. Nothing great.QED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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