Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 In fact, I didn't find myself missing the LSO at all while listening to the album. The LA musicians are fine players.Only now do people realise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,135 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Oooo wait a tic, there's a definite Phantom Menace vibe to the beginning of Finn's Confession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Maybe Episode VIIII will be recorded with the LSO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,340 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Oooo wait a tic, there's a definite Phantom Menace vibe to the beginning of Finn's Confession.It's from Talk of Podracing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Oooo wait a tic, there's a definite Phantom Menace vibe to the beginning of Finn's Confession.It's "Talk of Podracing". I think they took my suggestion from a few months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Anybody else think Rey's(?) theme is reminiscient of Night at the Museum main theme? When I saw the film that's what kept coming to mind. I don't remember exactly why, I think it had to do with the chords. Could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,135 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 What a random inclusion... Isn't that just a variant of Anakin's Theme though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Yes, L&L seems to be there. I don't hear it0:10 - 0:16, probably a coincidence, though I don't recall what's happening on screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 What a random inclusion...Isn't that just a variant of Anakin's Theme though?Strange for him to use it when The Quen confronts Nute and Rune.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,135 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I think it may have been when she was sat at the foot of the AT-AT and put that helmet on while eating. Not sure though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 CD arrived today, listened to the entire thing, just finished (I haven't seen the film yet so the following observations are just based on the OST). First of all -- this is an excellent score. I honestly cannot really see why so many people were disappointed with it. The first half of the score is almost entirely brilliant and a pure joy to listen to (some of the renditions of Rey's theme are just wonderful; her theme is definitely the best in this score, it actually reminds me a lot of Memoirs of a Geisha). The second half, while containing some spectacular moments, is not quite as great as the first, overall (although, again, there are plenty of great moments in it). I was really excited reading the descriptions of March of the Resistance, as I love Williams in fugal mode. However, I was a bit disappointed by it. The structure and orchestrations of the piece were terrific, but I found the melody not quite as good as I had hoped. For me, the most memorable (new) thematic ideas throughout the score were Rey's theme and that action motif (is it the one people are calling Finn's theme?). This score is not particularly "hummable," but I'm fine with that. I don't think that's a good way to judge this lovely score from the maestro. This score is certainly one to cherish. Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Snoke > Palpatine's Teachings. You millennial younglings fall for every gimmick in the book. "Oh my gash, rubbed gongs!" Snoke sounds like the chorus is lighting candles in preparation for a sacrifice. But I grant you, Palpatine's Teaching sounds more EPIC!I prefer it as well. Snoke's music is primitive, actually a bit disturbing, rather than just "top spooky bad guy music" which was what Palpatine got. Not that that wasn't appropriate, I just like the Snoke angle more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 "Snoke" seems darker and weirder than "Palpatine's Teachings" and I find it very unsettling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 "Snoke" seems darker and weirder than "Palpatine's Teachings" and I find it very unsettling.As in, "It's effective" unsettling? or "It disturbs me and makes me not like it" kind unsettling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 The first one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Imperfections sometimes makes a song immortal they say.Well, there are at least two on the album.Rey's Theme @ 00:20 (a little delay on the 3rd beat)The Ways of The Force @ 1:30 (a bad edit or just a wanted "burst"*?)* English is not my first language. sorry... Sometimes I need Google translate and I don't think I have always the right word! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 The Ways of The Force @ 1:30 (a bad edit or just a wanted burst?)I noticed that too, figured it was an edit. There's an earlier edit in that track @ 0:11 that's a bit worse. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,118 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I just finished my first spin of the CD. I think this is my favorite non-hummable score ever. This is a lovely, lovely accomplishment. I'm proud of the Maestro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I just finished my first spin of the CD. I think this is my favorite non-hummable score ever. This is a lovely, lovely accomplishment. I'm proud of the Maestro.You'll hum it... YOU WILL HUM IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I just finished my first spin of the CD. I think this is my favorite non-hummable score ever. This is a lovely, lovely accomplishment. I'm proud of the Maestro.I don't get this whole "non-hummable" thing. The score is perfectly hummable even after one or two listens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I noticed a couple of edits during the opening cue after the Main Title. I figure there's some stuff we heard on the sessions video that goes in there we're missing could give it a better flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 there seem to be more music post-crawl in the 60 minutes video... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I prefer Snoke to Palpatine's Teachings. I can barely listen to Palpatine's Teachings as music, more like vocal sound effects. Snoke has more clearly defined notes and also has a more quasi-religious feel to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Religious feel.... Palpatine's Teachings... Snoke's Theme...These are burps. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Religious feel.... Palpatine's Teachings... Snoke's Theme...These are burps. Period. No, these are burps! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Anyway, too "Tibetan monks" for me! Can I say here that I see the "SPOILER ALLOWED" thread name with great envy?I can resist. I can resist. Concentrate... breathe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 19, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2015 The main theme renditions in Scherzo for X-Wings are wonderful. The new Resistance music is fucking awesome. Very evocative of Black Sunday and the NBC News music! I love Williams in that mode! The old fucker's still got it. Not Mr. Big, Taikomochi and Andy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I wasn't wowed by March of the Resistance on album, but it kicked ass in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I wasn't wowed by March of the Resistance on album, but it kicked ass in the film.Yup, I felt exactly the same which then made me enjoy it on the album a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I wasn't wowed by March of the Resistance on album, but it kicked ass in the film.It was the other way around for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 The Ways of The Force @ 1:30 (a bad edit or just a wanted burst?)I noticed that too, figured it was an edit. There's an earlier edit in that track @ 0:11 that's a bit worse.What's wierd is that the comparing the film to the OST, there does not really seem to be any music missing there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I thought that source music was meant to be on the album. I'm disappointed it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Terrible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I am glad the Cantina music did not make it on. It sounded pretty obnoxious in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 It sounded obnoxiously anonymous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Really digging the theme for the Jedi steps. So full of expectation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Finn's Confession is a wonderful track. On the point of hummability, I constantly find myself humming Finn's theme. Rey's is a bit harder I find myself confusing it with the theme in Jedi Steps, but once I hear it again, it brings back memories of PoA. Does anyone think March of the Resistance has a similar quality to the end of Journey to the Island from JP? Thr bit where they arrive at the visitor center? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Does anyone think March of the Resistance has a similar quality to the end of Journey to the Island from JP? Thr bit where they arrive at the visitor center?Yep, that bit in JTtI is a theme in JP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Kylo Ren's theme has really grown on me since seeing the film. Hearing his music blaring over the sound system in the movie theater really makes a lasting impression and now I really appreciate how JW uses Kylo's theme to great effect. It's old school Hollywood bad guy music and has another haunted component that comes into play. Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 He has 2 themes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 He has 2 themesThat's what I mean. JW gave him enough material to express both the menace and the pain depending on the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinspace 8 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 My 2c on first listen.. It doesn't sound auto-pilot but "overall" I don't hear any magic.. a bit like Tintin. Functional but not really compelling me to listen again and again like original triology or prequels. The main problem I have when comparing to ROTS and AOTC is that in those I felt each track was entirely listenable interesting piece. With FA each track seems to be in 2 or 3 parts sometimes with direct quotes from original trilogy. Overall there seems a lack of identity moving from idea to idea to idea. This maybe intentional on JJ Abrahms part. When you go from idea to idea the whole track seems to lack focus. Again, Tintin and War horse to me sounded focused but FA doesn't.. the long "new" melodic lines are not there it's more motivic. Also there is something wrong with the recording, the sound is flat. Brass and strings are too closely miked and acoustic is too dry IMHO, you can't fix it by adding artificial reverb it just muddys sound. Tintin had this problem aswell. I hate to make these critisims, but I'm being honest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 My first listen kinda felt like that, but the second one already started to reveal things.Right now i think this is probably the easiest playable JW score since POA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Not quite as good as Munich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 My 2c on first listen..It doesn't sound auto-pilot but "overall" I don't hear any magic.. a bit like Tintin. Functional but not really compelling me to listen again and again like original triology or prequels.The main problem I have when comparing to ROTS and AOTC is that in those I felt each track was entirely listenable interesting piece. With FA each track seems to be in 2 or 3 parts sometimes with direct quotes from original trilogy. Overall there seems a lack of identity moving from idea to idea to idea. This maybe intentional on JJ Abrahms part. When you go from idea to idea the whole track seems to lack focus. Again, Tintin and War horse to me sounded focused but FA doesn't.. the long "new" melodic lines are not there it's more motivic.Also there is something wrong with the recording, the sound is flat. Brass and strings are too closely miked and acoustic is too dry IMHO, you can't fix it by adding artificial reverb it just muddys sound. Tintin had this problem aswell.I hate to make these critisims, but I'm being honest!Same here.I'd say this JW's least original score since Chamber of Secrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 The Resistance March is surprisingly double edged. On some listens it feels nobly defiant, yet on others it sounds like John lost his marbles with some quirky nonsense. I like it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I like it?You do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie 45 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I created my own 'listening experience' playlist, trimming the fat, as follows:1. Main Title & The Attack on Jakku Village2. The Scavenger3. Rey Meets BB-84. March of the Resistance5. Rey's Theme6. Finn's Confession7. Han and Leia8. Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle9. The Abduction10. On the Inside11. Torn Apart12. Scherzo for X-Wings13.The Ways of the Force14. Farewell & The Trip15. The Jedi Steps & Finale(Representing the film, it really just misses a sense of the action music accompanying the various Falcon detours that get us to Takodana, but personally I don't think it's strong enough. I'm also annoyed that the flutes fade out at the end of the "Falcon" track.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I might try that. I'm too lazy to come up with my own trimmed version, so I'll use someone else's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Kylo Ren's theme has really grown on me since seeing the film. Hearing his music blaring over the sound system in the movie theater really makes a lasting impression and now I really appreciate how JW uses Kylo's theme to great effect. It's old school Hollywood bad guy music and has another haunted component that comes into play.Indeed! My favorite instance being the blaring one in "On the Inside" with the drums thundering. The close up of Ren that accompanied it made for a bad ass moment of film and music interaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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