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Rey's Theme – John Williams' Best Theme Yet?

Rey's Theme – John Williams' Best Theme Yet?   

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  1. 1. Rey's Theme ? John Williams' Best Theme Yet?

    • YES! Sweeping, malleable, chameleon, fresh, beautiful, and perfect!
      26
    • NO! It's terrible!
      4
    • Maybe, it's too early to tell, but it keeps growing on me!
      37
    • I'm a Communist and believe all themes are equal, though Rey's Theme is more equal than other themes.
      13
    • I don't have any opinion yet
      4


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Well, it obviously isn't better than his golden age work or some of his 90s themes, but it is my favourite post original trilogy Star Wars theme with the exception of Dual of the Fates. I love Anakin's theme and Across the Stars but there is something really special about Rey's theme that those two don't have.

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Yeah, I'm looking for that too...

Wonderful theme, but this is a man who has written some of the finest melodies of all time, and I'm not even talking about the famous ones.

Yeah I agree, I absolutely love Rey's theme but I'm unsure I'd put it above Jaws' End Credits for example.

It is also a difficult question because we've been listening to Rey's theme for just days, whereas we've had other themes for literally four decades with all the emotional and nostalgic attachment that brings.

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Yeah, but for example, I didn't got caught so much with the melodies of Tintin -despite adoring that score, the only theme that really got stuck with me was Haddock's, and it appropiately showed up when I was drunk.

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Well, obviously the poll is borderline insane, but I will take the bait and say this: at this point, I would place the theme in the top 10 of Williams' themes. It has a mature, sublime quality that borders on some of his best concert works but with a more accessible style. I do not think the three minute track itself is a top ten piece, though it could be with a longer arrangement. I know it is wishful thinking, but he could easily incorporate the flute-theme in the final track and work up a more substantial piece.

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I'm on my second listen of The Jedi Steps and End Credits... wow. This theme is just sublime. The way he plays with it in the credits is a sheer delight; I only wish he'd played with it more in the film score proper.

Anyone who thinks Williams has lost his touch has no clue. What a transcendent, emotive, intellectually and heartfelt written theme. Not one other composer in Hollywood could've written such a layered and complex piece for a modern film.

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Yes. I would absolutely agree with that.

It's also the first time since 1983 that the new lead character theme for a SW movie feels like it accurately represents that character.

Anakin's theme is lovely, but it really never fitted much with the character IMO.

Across The Stars is an epic lovetheme for a completely unappealing romance

Battle Of The Heroes...What? Anakin is a hero?

With the Prequels I guess Williams was stuck scoring concepts of characters rather then actual characters. TFA gives him more to work with.

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Rey's theme is used to great effect but because it has so many parts it sounds more motivic than melodic. Purely as a piece of music, I prefer the major themes from Lincoln and War Horse over Rey's theme partly because those themes are more lyrical and less segmented. Rey's theme is way stronger than anything in Book Thief or Tintin though.

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I think Sayuri's Theme is a better-constructed melody in this same vein of character writing. The first six notes of Rey's theme seem to meander slightly awkwardly around the tonic. And the transition into the B part of the theme bugs me. That bit is stunning on its own, but always seems pasted in, like Williams never really figured out how to merge the two ideas. In the concert track, he switches to the B theme at two different points in the A theme, and neither sound perfect to me. Minor quibbles, but to me, the melody falls short of the "inevitable" quality that his best themes have.

Having said that, it is my favorite of all the character themes in all of Star Wars. I think it conveys the broadest, most complex range of emotions of any theme in the series—maybe of any of his themes, ever—and it's the only one in the series that feels like it captures a character's personality and not their archetype.

Like, to me, Leia's theme is a princess theme—it's hummable, but it doesn't really capture what makes her great as a character, her courage or her military leadership. The Imperial March is a bad guy theme—maybe the best of all time—but it doesn't capture Vader's internal struggle.

Part of that is probably that Rey is maybe the most fully-formed Star Wars character to ever appear within the space of one movie. I mean, we didn't know that Vader had good in him in ESB. But it also seems like a deliberate shift in philosophy from Williams—like he's saying, "Ok I've done the heroic theme, the love theme, the bad guy theme, etc." and now in the new trilogy he's going to take a more character-driven approach to the material and score them more like straight-up dramas. To me, that makes me excited for the rest of this trilogy.

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Typical new-Williams-release overreaction. No, it is not.

It doesn't grab immediate attention, it lacks the long lined Williams punch, and is just uninteresting in the score except for the concert Theme itself and the finale Piece.

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