Bofur01 245 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Is it me, or is the March which was replaced from the Attack on Jakku sounds related to the music when Hux mentions the resistance in the restored Parage Grounds sequence, which in turn sounds pretty similar to The Arena from AotC? (it's most likely me making connections that aren't there, and I'm sorry if someone's suggested this before!) Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Yep, I noticed that too. I believe that little motif is actually a theme in the score (because it appears in several other places too). But I'm still flummoxed as to what it might represent. I initially thought it was a B theme for the First Order but now I'm wondering if it's connected to the Resistance, given the rather heroic nature (plus some of its positions in the film). The weird thing then though is why would the Resistance need another theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Will said: I initially thought it was a B theme for the First Order but now I'm wondering if it's connected to the Resistance, given the rather heroic nature (plus some of its positions in the film). The weird thing then though is why would the Resistance need another theme? If it's the motif I think you're talking about it, it appears as Han and Leia discuss plans in Finn and Po, United on the FYC (1:44). Microedited from the equivalent track on the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 44 minutes ago, crumbs said: If it's the motif I think you're talking about it, it appears as Han and Leia discuss plans in Finn and Po, United on the FYC (1:44). Microedited from the equivalent track on the OST. No, that one's clearly a First Order (or at least danger) theme. The one we're talking about can be heard here, for example: And the march version @Bofur01 mentioned can be found here, assuming I'm thinking of the same bit he is: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9cEg3TElmWGdUdW8/view And the parade grounds moment here, at 0:29 (this appearance is surrounded by appearances of the theme you mentioned, Crumbs): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9NXlLWWQxRVQ0WGs/view?pref=2&pli=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Anyone remember when this 60 sec tv spot for TFA released and we all thought it was new JW music? And then speculated that it was Rey's Theme? Good times. Who knew they were really playing us the music from the final scene of the movie? DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Ah, yes, fun times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 27, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2017 What's funnier are the people who were convinced it couldn't be Williams music. crumbs, Will and Taikomochi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post artguy360 1,843 Posted May 28, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2017 It's funny how we all listened to the music and imagined it as Rey's Theme. We talked about how mysterious it sounded, the idea that it would have a clear lead instrument, what it says about her character. And in the end the real Rey's Theme was so very different. I want our first snippet of TLJ music now! John, crumbs and Will 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 I was so relieved when it turned out it wasn't Rey's theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 It's Rey & Luke's New Jedi Order theme! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondo 33 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Does anyone have a good link for the Lego cue MX_HUBFALCON, aka "You're Han Solo!"? Disregard, found it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Sharing files isn't allowed... just a heads up incase Jay yells at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Faleel 5,346 Posted November 3, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2017 @Will @crumbs It's that time again! I was finally able to get rips of the TFA 3D Blu-Ray special features, so new video links will start to appear, and the old links will be going offline. First up is the possible alternate to The Jedi Steps: Unknown Cue 6 (Sorrowful) Holko, CGCJ, crumbs and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Finn and Poe, United (Alternate) Will and Cerebral Cortex 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 2 hours ago, Fal said: First up is the possible alternate to The Jedi Steps: Unknown Cue 6 (Sorrowful) I really can't place that cue at all. Possibly a very early draft of his music for Rey's isolated scenes on Jakku? It's very mournful. It does echo the unreleased cue where Rey cries over Finn in the forest on Starkiller, right before the Falcon/Chewy rescues them. That cue is very short in the final film, perhaps this was an early version which scored a longer cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Thank you so much, @Fal. Your efforts and contributions to the community continue to be greatly appreciated. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,278 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 hour ago, crumbs said: I really can't place that cue at all. Possibly a very early draft of his music for Rey's isolated scenes on Jakku? It's very mournful. It does echo the unreleased cue where Rey cries over Finn in the forest on Starkiller, right before the Falcon/Chewy rescues them. That cue is very short in the final film, perhaps this was an early version which scored a longer cut? I've always liked that little cue btw. Something nicely yearning about it. The strings are deep and rich but still delicate enough for the moment. Solid few seconds of Williams heartbreak. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I dunno crumbs, I personally still think it is an alternate Jedi Steps, I can hear elements of the final version in there. Unknown Pizzicato Cerebral Cortex and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Sounds like a more subdued snippet of Finn's action motif to me, possibly playing at some point when he is sneaking around Starkiller base (or something). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Oh, I know the theme, Unknown refers to it's placement in the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Oh, sorry. See now you were responding to a prior post. Don't know what I was thinking. I'd be an idiot to assume I knew the music to this film better than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I reckon that's an alternate, more comedic version of the cue where Finn & Rey are sneaking around in the ducts underneath the floor (before the Rathtars sequence). Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Faleel 5,346 Posted November 4, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2017 Unknown Winds Unknown Action Cue (Possibly Finn vs. TR8R) Unknown March Finn's Trek (Extended) I Can Fly Anything (Extended Album Version) The Last Day of the Republic The Plan Planting the Charges Chewy, crumbs, Cerebral Cortex and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I'd say I agree with Fal that the beautiful little unknown cue is an alternate "Jedi Steps." It seems to match up pretty well with the scene in terms of timing. And, man, that pizzicato bit sounds way better now! Really fun. Very unusual, streamlined orchestration for JW (e.g. the awesome low string ostinato). The unknown winds sound like a statement of the map theme. Maybe it's from one of the many versions of the opening ("Starry Night"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Unknown Strings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 3 hours ago, Fal said: Unknown Strings This link doesn't appear to be working. Otherwise, though, thanks so much!! I'm amazed by how much better the sound quality is on some of these. Plus this is our first time hearing that full alternate "I Can Fly Anything" segment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Fixed, try it now @Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Fal said: Fixed, try it now @Will Yep, works now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 10 hours ago, Fal said: The Last Day of the Republic Dammit JJ, what were you thinking? Probably one of the best cues in the score and they didn't use it! Really makes you wonder what the original version of the film looked like, and whether these "bigger" cues were JW's idea or JJ's. The final score is far more restrained (especially Solo's death). toothless, John, Muad'Dib and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Makes you wonder if any of these unused ideas could make it into TLJ. crumbs and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Muad'Dib said: Makes you wonder if any of these unused ideas could make it into TLJ. That had occurred to me too. No reason they wouldn't have temped the film with unused TFA music, for starters. The prequels certainly set a precedent with tracking previous scores! I reckon JW would've insisted on re-recordings though, given the luxurious recording schedule. They had no reason to re-record Main Title but we know he did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,388 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 17 hours ago, Fal said: Unknown Action Cue (Possibly Finn vs. TR8R) At :16, it reminds me so much of some Harry Potter 1-2 Quidditch scenes Thanks a lot @Fal for all this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 That action cue is awesome! Williams was really firing on all cylinders when he went for broke in TFA. Can't help but feel a little disappointed that most of it was jettisoned in favour of a more contemplative, restrained score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I think I'll never return to this thread again. So much great cue … unused. It's sad. Will and John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 It's fascinating to hear at alternate and unused moments of course and I surely hope they will be officially released one day (didn't JJ Baby said something about the unused music being released at some point?) However, we knew since day one that JW kept rewriting to accomodate the picture changes up until one month before release. It surely was a daunting challenge considering he's still doing it all by himself with pencil and paper. Someone might say that the score didn't live up to the (terribly high) expectations, but I believe it was a mighty effort from JW in the end. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 On 11/4/2017 at 0:19 PM, Fal said: Unknown Action Cue (Possibly Finn vs. TR8R) Is that synth I here in the first few seconds of the cue, or just the quality of the file? Great bit of music, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCJ 394 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 First official slate/cue titles! 1M1 Main Title / Starry Night / The Invasion of the Village. Could the other titles actually be 1M1A/B? Are any other slates currently known or is this it? Disco Stu and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Hey, that's neat! Anyways, that's not a true reel/part (slate is the wrong word, that's for the take numbers). This sheet music is for the live concert, so it conforms to the final edits made to the music for the film, that the musicians have to recreate live. Originally those three cues ("Main Title", "Starry Night", and "The Invasion of the Village") could have been 1M1, 1M2, and 1M3 for all we know; for the live concerts there's no reason to include that detail, so they just put 1M1 and are done with it. They are joined together like this because the musicians have to play all that music consecutively before they get to rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 On 06/11/2017 at 4:32 PM, TownerFan said: It's fascinating to hear at alternate and unused moments of course and I surely hope they will be officially released one day (didn't JJ Baby said something about the unused music being released at some point?) However, we knew since day one that JW kept rewriting to accomodate the picture changes up until one month before release. It surely was a daunting challenge considering he's still doing it all by himself with pencil and paper. Someone might say that the score didn't live up to the (terribly high) expectations, but I believe it was a mighty effort from JW in the end. There was definitely talk early on about an expanded release. I'm absolutely certain that it will happen and I doubt very much we'll have to wait more than a few years for it. If I were a betting man I'd feel safe putting a small amount of money on expanded releases soon after the release of Episode 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Threads like this are exactly why I post here. Can't wait to see one for TLJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 So... A long time ago, I really fell in love with this TFA Blu-ray doc music: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9ZG41dVRqaVlhLWs/view (Faleel's rip, posted a while back) There was some debate about whether it was Williams, however. Now, the reason I'm bringing it up now is because I wonder whether the opening to "Rebellion is Reborn" might sound similar enough that it makes it very likely that the BR music is JW. I mean, they're not that similar, but I definitely noticed it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,059 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 On 23/12/2017 at 12:40 PM, Will said: So... A long time ago, I really fell in love with this TFA Blu-ray doc music: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9ZG41dVRqaVlhLWs/view (Faleel's rip, posted a while back) There was some debate about whether it was Williams, however. Now, the reason I'm bringing it up now is because I wonder whether the opening to "Rebellion is Reborn" might sound similar enough that it makes it very likely that the BR music is JW. I mean, they're not that similar, but I definitely noticed it... it's funny that you mention that because I felt the exact same way hearing 'The Rebellion is Reborn' for the first time. I always thought that cue was Williams and that kind of cements it in my mind. I could very easily see it being an alternate for some kind of BB8 or R2 scene. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Another photo of that cue title they discussed at the MSO performances. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Cool! 6M57B Ice Landing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 Well, yea, we knew that already, which is what he meant by "Another photo of that cue title" http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27124-star-wars-live-to-projection-concerts/&do=findComment&comment=1426601 Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCJ 394 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Are these known slates/cue titles being listed anywhere? I don't see that in the first post and it would be a shame for these to just be forgotten/only known to a select few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 That's the only reel/part that's leaked that I know of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCJ 394 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I've seen a few more listed as being seen in two featurettes (I've not been able to actually check these, though): 1M1A (Free Version) (Opening / Starry Night) 1M1 (take 756) Opening 6M50 R v2 "Han & Leia Reunion" with flute Rey's Theme (10/7/15 longer version) Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Theoretically if you were positioned properly (with binoculars) you could note down all the cue titles by watching the conductor's video screen at the TFA performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 hours ago, CGCJ said: I've seen a few more listed as being seen in two featurettes (I've not been able to actually check these, though): 1M1A (Free Version) (Opening / Starry Night) 1M1 (take 756) Opening 6M50 R v2 "Han & Leia Reunion" with flute Rey's Theme (10/7/15 longer version) Yeah, those are all the ones I know of. 2 hours ago, crumbs said: Theoretically if you were positioned properly (with binoculars) you could note down all the cue titles by watching the conductor's video screen at the TFA performances. Yeah I might consider doing that if I get to go. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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